I agree

I am done with Jesse Jackson...But blacks use the N word on a daily basis...it has a different meaning when used with an a versus er..

timec, blacks aren't the only ones who use the N word on a daily basis.

Hitler? Dude, where do you come up with this stuff. Saying that someone that possibly defends what someone said is worse than the worst genocidal dictator ever? I think not.

Not that I'm condoning what he said in any way, but there's a big difference when you say the word with an "a" at the end or an "er" at the end. The words that Kramer said ended in "er" and were meant to be hurtful. 

If a white person called a black person the word whether it end in a "a" or an "er" I guarantee it would still be offensive

What in the ' heck ' is so bad about that...he called it like WE all see it..reguardless if it's black,brown,white...ANYBODY can make a BABY...step up and raise your child...or see them off to PRISON like those 5 THUGS (MURDERS) that suppose to be innocent for killing that elder MEXICAN--just trying to make a living in these times....

Ling, you might want to check your post and look at: reguardless, MURDERS, suppose, and elder.

And what the hell (heck) does making a baby have to do with this post? You seem kind of out there.

Jesse Jackson should STILL be in prison because of his involvement with the Black Panthers. They were, by definition, a Terrorist Organization. The guy is a criminal.

I had a friend from Baltimore (black guy), in the Navy explain to me where the insult comes from. Here is what Curtis told me.

The word Ni$$er is like the words Horse, Cow, Pig, Sheep or Goat. It refers to a type of livestock. When Slavery was legal, owners referred to their slaves as Ni$$ers. The insult comes from the fact that livestock are animals, not human and animals have no Soul. Without a Soul, there is no afterlife.

 I am so tired of people saying that "Blacks use the N- word all the time". No we don't! I'm Black as is my husband, both our families, quite a few friends from college and professional friends/acquaintances. AND NONE OF US USE THAT WORD - with an a or er ending. It is offensive and shows a lack of cultural respect.

 the last thing i would call myself is racist.

but i find this email relative to this blog post.

Tony, I missed Jackson's trial and conviction.  Or are those "quaint" today?  Are you admitting that the suspension of habeas corpus did indeed affect American citizens?

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As to your derivation of the N-word, it's clearly from the related terms meaning "black" by way of the term "Negro."  Slave owners certainly thought of their slaves as propertly, likely as livestock, but it has nothing to do with the term.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Because they have control of the power structure which can be used to enforce that view?  Give it a hundred more years and let's see if the designation is still apt.

The word actually came over with the slaves from Africa, but was screwed up by English speakers....

He was actually indited but never tried and convicted as a participant back in the 60's. He was able to skate out on a couple of events that sent several members of the Black Panthers to Prison.

A lot of criminals have never gone to trial.  It doesn't make them any less a criminal.

Actually, Nancy, yes it does. 

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What were the charges, then, if it never went to trial?  *WERE* there any charges, or are they, too, "quaint"?

bakobornandraised:

Ever heard of Columbus Day?  We have a National Holiday which celebrates the beginning of modern slavery, robbery and exploitation of indigenous peoples. 

If you robbed a store and didn't get caught or even if you got caught but they couldn't prove you did it, does that make you any less a criminal?  You committed a crime whether you ever went to trial or not.

I'm not talking about a record, I'm just saying that if you commit a crime you're a criminal.  People commit criminal acts all the time and never see a courtroom.

Add on...If being charged and going to court and being sentenced is the criteria for being criminal in your eyes RF, then why is it the left gets away with calling Bush a criminal and saying he should be tried for war crimes.

There have been no charges, no trial, no decision by a jury, and no sentencing.

The term is derived from the word Negro (black) and was/is mispronounced by illiterate, ill educated southeastern Americans with accents/drawls who have/had difficulty reading and with mangling the proper pronunciation of that and many other words.

The term Negro has also commonly been pronounced by these illiterates as nigrah, and further evolved to its present form.

Yes, the term became insulting in its usage by slavery proponents, Ku Klux Klan types and other white supremacists who viewed black slaves as chattel and Africans and other people of color less than human.

Other races fared no better, particularly Asian immigrant laborers, mostly of Chinese extraction, who earned/earn no respect from whites believing themselves superior and terming them chinks, gooks, etc. 

We could on and on citing all the derogatory terms used by racist, bigoted supremacists in reference to people of just about any ethnicity, color or religion these idiots believed/believe inferior.

People of all races originating from anywhere on the globe suffer the indignity of this sort of insult from various overtly hostile and intolerant American factions.

Although with the advancement of education the level of racial tolerance in this nation has greatly improved during the past few decades, there is still no shortage of bigoted, racist idiots in this country where many of these socially underdeveloped people remain entrenched in their ignorance and hate.

It still remains to be seen just how large a part racism will play in the upcoming election.

But the bottom line is, the term in question was simply derived from the word negro, which in many languages basically translates to black or dark complected.

One can only wonder why use of the inflammatory term by blacks evokes so much resentment from neanderthals who post blogs like this.

Why does it matter so much to them what Jesse Jackson thinks about Barack Obama and the terms he used in voicing his personal distaste toward another of his own race?

If it's really that important to them, one might conclude that they seek any validation of their own prejudices, viewing a certain black's poor opinion of another black like Obama - whom they don't like - as a sort of backassward affirmation of their own bigotry.

Maybe, BS, it's as simple as this:

One's brother gets to call one a jerk, but you don't.

But you and your ignorant ilk won't see this simple social logic because your too busy trying to denigrate Obama using any simplistic garbage you can toss.

Keep up the good work, BS.

With each of your daily proliferation of idiotic, inflammatory posts you further illustrate your abundant ignorance while turning people away from your conservative message toward the thoughtful, intelligent other side.

With agents like you, McCain hasn't a chance.

He could be lilly white with blond hair and blue eyes and I still wouldn't vote for him. His skin tone isn't what I dislike, it's his politics.........................................

I had a gal work for me in Libreville (used to be Stanleyville of Dr. Livingstone I presume fame). She was a beautiful black highly intelligent gal. Named Anna Bossman. She wanted me to pay her out of a non-Gabonaise payroll. When I asked her why, she just said  "I'm better than the Gabonaise". OK.... I can pay you out of Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), even a Ghanaian or Luandan payroll. Told her she could even tell people she was Cuban out of the Luandan (Angolan) payroll (we had some operatives down there too). Ghana was out (they were not much better than Gabonaise (just palace guards for Premier Bongo) according to her, so we settled on Cote d'Ivoire.

That worked for awhile until she decided I had to pay her out of London. She just kept telling me she was better than  "those people". It was so weird. She wanted to disassociate herself from all Africans. She was better.

I finally set her up to pay her out of Richmond E&P payroll (London) so she could tell people she was really British (and show them her check stubs I guess).

Point is, just like the tribesmen in Africa that would make hellacisous cuts on their faces to differentiate themselves from their  "brother and sister"  Africans (who looked just like them), they wanted to differentiate themselves from each other so they could think they were better and even wage war on each other.....

Is that the  "whiteman's" fault? I think not..........

You don't know real racism in this country. You just don't.

Not until you have lived it. But the Mattloch's can continue to think the nawlin's thugs were just taking two forties of OE because they had no water if they wish to (again expatiation of white gui9lt) just like they will vote Obama to do the same.

No matter his no drill, no nuke, no tangible steps toward true energy Independence -- just tax the crap out of the evil producers. You know what that will accomplish?

Yep.............. NO PRODUCTION!

Sys_mom -- this country started really going down hill when you stopped hearing

YES SIR, NO MA'AM...............

I always thought the word was derived from Niger, the African coastal region that was used as a shipping point  by slave traders.

Richard Pryor used the N word constantly in his comedy act.  He stopped using it once he went to Africa and saw the dignity and fortitude of real Africans.   Or so the story goes......

According to the book "Nigger" by Randall Kennedy (2002)   the word comes from niger which means black.  This is a book you should all read if you're going to continue to discuss the word and it's usage.

I could care less about the word or its derivation thereof.

I don't use it, for my own reasons.

But you can't have your cake and eat it too.

If blacks want to constantly utilize the word, then that has consequences. And some are bad, really bad.

I saw a poll that said race relations have really gotten worse since Obama became a candidate. And I can tell you that a good part of it is from people who have never owned a slave or even dissed a black person, who now feel like all this crap is being shoved down their collective throats.

People who didn't think much about race in the past, who judged others by their character, are now rebelling because they are being constantly confronted with this phony issue. And phony it is -- or at least it should be.

No good will come of all this emphasis on race, trust me on that....... I've witnessed it in my own family........

Blacks and whites should not use the N word. I don't allow the word to be used in my house. But when whites use the word they are using it in a derogatory manner.  I have never been called the N word to my face. I consider the word to be one of the worst words you can call a person of color and I am highly offended by the word. Whites should not use the word at all...what would be the reason a white person would want to call a black person the N word. If you are white and you use the N word you are racist. If you are black and you use the N word you are ignorant or just misinformed.

Bako

I have read that spill a million times. Blacks have this blacks have that. We have a few organizations and ONE damn TV show and now we are racist. Give me a freakin break. Blacks have one damn month out of the year and you want to cry......In addition to having one month ,it is the shortest month. Get over it. We need organizations to protect us against white people like you.

I think all of you get a kick out of typing the word ......why?

Be careful typing the N word at work ...you will be fired.

Perhaps no one should use the word Timec --

BTW, in the one pic you posted you remind me of Ms. Bossman

(that's a compliment BTW)

Blacks do use the N word and yes whites should have every right to say the N word....whites will just have to suffer the consequences for saying the N word .........just as blacks will have to suffer the consequences if we call a white person a racial slur.... 

If the N word is used in the workplace you should be terminated immediately...no questions asked

If the N word is used on the streets..... you will probably be safe north of the river but if you are not north of the river be prepared...

I used to post on a  "very open board"  that was virtually destroyed when people started using the "N" word.

That should be instructive to us all...........................

Has anyone actually used the word other than to discuss it?

Maybe it's just me but I can't see why people keep talking about it here.  The same people making the same comments is kinda pointless.

Has anyone actually used the word other than to discuss it?

Yes Nancy people use the word....parents allow their children to use the word.........It is normal to say N in certain households.

The greater story is racism in America as opposed to other countries.

We don't experience it here nearly as much as in other countries.

Of course no one will believe that unless they have lived it.

The "word" is just a trigger - an outward obvious manifestation. That's why I really don't care about it.

But I do care about racism as its parents (Political Correctness) will be our downfall........

 i personally hate that word. i think it is rude and not one person should use it, same goes for other racial slurs, it is not needed. its rude and disrespecful, whether you are saying about your own race or another, you shouldnt use it.

Sys_mom, rude is continually spamming the TBC site with several inane blogs per day with the intent to smear and defame another honorable human being with inflammatory garbage which has no basis in fact.

In the study of linguistics it is shown that words formerly used as slurs become terms of empowerment.  Such as the N word. 

No one has pointed out the emotional charge we allow words to have.  They are merely sounds strung together, yet their power is often daunting.  I can say "hunt" or "car," but if we put the c where the h is-- WHAMMO, you've got a word with a high charge.

I'm interested in black people who do not use the word by conscious choice, and those who do use it regularly.  That would make a great discussion. 

I worked at BHS for several years and the kids used it often--but as a term of endearment, really.  Kids of other races who were tight with the black kids were "approved" to use it too.  Hearing "What's up, my n***a" was always said with a smile.  But the earlier point is true--it must end with the "a" sound, not the "er."  

SYS

I do not allow my children to say anything nasty. My children can not even say lie....they have to say telling a story.  I am not the type of person that sits back and allows my children to treat others bad. That means blacks, whites, brown, handicap people...it does not matter. You couldn't pay one of my children to laugh at an overweight person or a mentally retarded person...that is not how I operate. I have very well mannered good kids. I have never heard my children say anything derogatory towards whites or Hispanics. I have heard my youngest son say N*gg*. He was singing a rap song. I won't tell what I did to him but he will never say the word again. I allow my children to form their own opinions about others. My kids have experienced racism. I explain to them this world is full of ignorant people. There are people in this world that will treat you bad for no reason at all. There are people that will treat you bad simply for being black or white. I preach to them do not allow anyone to crush your dreams or goals. I told my daughter the other day...you can be whatever you want to be......if you set your mind to it. I treat everyone with respect. My grandma told me years ago....people talked about God and called him names so what makes you think people aren't going to call you names...The N word is a nasty word and it causes unnecessary problems.

As a kid, me and my white friends called each the N word almost daily.  We had no clue it was offensive, I knew no blacks and until middle school didn't  have any as classmates.  If my mom heard one of us use the word we were scolded but not really punished, this was in the late fifties.  The only time my children said the N word in my presence occurred one day when my daughter , about 4, came running in the house saying ' there's N's moving in the neighborhood" we both almost fell out.  I ask her if she knew what that meant and she said " No, but Rey said there was a bunch of them moving in".  I don't like or use the word because blacks find it offensive, plain and simple. Timec I bet I used similar methods on my kids, probably illegal now.

Well said Timec.  And very wise words by your grandmother.   

 I believe in old fashion butt whoopin's.........if my child gets too far out of line. I usually attempt to talk to them but I am not going to keep repeating myself. That "look" works on most kids but my teens are starting to test the water. I tell them to call whoever they want whenever they want. I will not allow a child that I have worked hard to feed and clothe to disrespect me. I tell my daughter I have went without to do for her. I show my kids the newspaper ...Foster parents under the employment section of the paper. I tell my children some people adopt kids for employment and in my opinion that is wrong. You should adopt because you want to love and nurture a child without a home..... not for a check....so if they want to be someones income call CPS and I will pack their bags. I will not tolerate a disrespectful kid....at all what so ever.

" I brought you into this world,,I can take you out !"   Bill Cosby

Use that all the time on my rebel...

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS...

We should all watch this.....................

Sys_mom, I don't personally agree with Jackson's choice of rhetoric nor his assessment of Obama's motives or behavior.

In fact, I am not a fan of Jackson.

I believe Obama to be an honorable person deserving of basic courtesy and respect from Jackson, as well as our homegrown smear campaigner, BakersfieldSuperman.

A review of the daily proliferation of insulting BS spamposts clearly indicates his hatred for Obama and liberal supporters which exceeds any civility or intelligence which might questionably be buried beneath his baseless inferences, rants and diatribes.

BS's behavior is typical of the smear attack tactics which have been employed by ultra right wing extremists to sully and discredit the reputations of Obama and other of their perceived enemies.

timec, I watch the NBA. No need to watch some one sided CNN special.  

I have been arguing on TBC for years with a bunch of racists, crooked cops, bitter hags, illiterates, ex alcoholics, current alcoholics, ex drug addicts, current drug addicts, dumb dj's, and on and on.....

......So you can break down and watch a couple of episodes about the people you have harassed for years. You are probably afraid you just might start liking us huh...

Timec,

Stubborn, sociopathic neanderthals firmly entrenched in their bigotry, hate and racism don't wish to know or understand the enemy.

They enjoy their hate. They feed and nourish it in their hollow quest to feel superior to someone, anyone.

Some, like Jesse Helms, take it to the grave.

There, they must explain it to their God.

Here, in their life on earth, even the more intelligent among them will cling to the foulness despite all logic.

But even the few who find the wisdom to walk in another's shoes for a moment or two during their lifetime will unfortunately not find redemption after a lifetime of evil despite the promise of religion, unless they embrace complete atonement.

It's just not enough to apologize and beg forgiveness at the last subway stop.

The peace and redemption only attainable by full and sincere remorse requires much more than a perfunctory "I'm sorry" at the end of the line.

It is highly doubtful that many bigots will be found within the pearlies.

 I have been arguing on TBC for years with a bunch of racists, crooked cops, bitter hags, illiterates, ex alcoholics, current alcoholics, ex drug addicts, current drug addicts, dumb dj's, and on and on.....

Stubborn, sociopathic neanderthals firmly entrenched in their bigotry, hate, racism don't wish to know or understand the enemy.

Dialogue ends when someone feels they have been classified by someone else.