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Lisa Green says she's running for DA, Jagels will retire
Deputy District Attorney Lisa S. Green announced Thursday she is running for district attorney in 2010. She said in October she would run for the office if District Attorney Ed Jagels decides to retire. She said Thursday that she believes Jagels, who has held the job for 26 years, will retire, though he has not formally said so. Jagels could not be reached for comment Thursday. Also in the race is former deputy district attorney Bob Barton who announced in October he would be running whether Jagels retires or not. Barton is now senior assistant inspector general in the central region office of the Bureau of Independent Review, an agency that helps oversee state prisons. Barton was a prosecutor from 1988 to 2005 when he prosecuted misdemeanors, general felonies and gang crimes. Green has been a prosecutor for 25 years, handling many high-profile cases including the 2007 conviction of Vincent Brothers for the murders of five family members. Brothers was sentenced to death in the July 2003 shooting and stabbing deaths of his mother-in-law, wife and three small children. Green’s announcement came in a speech to the Rotary Club of Bakersfield where she gave some insights to her role in the Brothers' trial. She said running for district attorney is a “natural progression of my career” and hopefully she can show a good example of aggressive prosecution to the staff. 28 comments from 12 users
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posted by
OldBlue56
on Apr 10, 2008 at 05:02 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Apr 10, 2008 at 05:11 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 10, 2008 at 05:11 PM
posted by
mrkds1
on Apr 10, 2008 at 08:54 PM
It would appear that 2010 would be the time for the district attorney's office to clean house. Lisa Green is a racist who has had many cases overturned due to prosecutorial misconduct. The entire D.A's office needs a house cleaning, as they lead the state in cases overturned due to misconduct under Jagels. We don't need or want a Jagels clone for the next 25 years! posted by
OldBlue56
on Apr 10, 2008 at 09:08 PM
So tell us mrkds1, what are the many cases Lisa Green has had overturned due to misconduct? And if you do not reply back here with an answer, it will show you are a liar. The ball's in your court. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 10, 2008 at 09:28 PM
That Bob Barton is one tough mother to my way a thinkin I think if he couldn't beat ya with the "process machination mano's of the system" he'd just as soon beat ya with his own (fists that is) ...... and I mean that in the most positive sense possible He is a legend even up in these parts. I meant him once. Nice feller. Wouldn't wanna cross him though........ (some men you just know that when ya look em in the eye) posted by
billyclone
on Apr 11, 2008 at 07:33 AM
Reach for your glasses Blue, mrkds said the entire D.A.'s office leads the state in overturned cases, Lisa Green is not the only incompetent in the D.A.'s office. With his policy of favoritism and selective prosecution, Jagels is the ringmaster of that clown show. I'm with Chica on this one... I'm voting for Barton. And Chica, how is it that you looked him in the eye? Was he laying in the gutter at the time? posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Not sure if you're talkin to me or the poster with the "a" (mine ends in an "O" but you aren't known for your attention to detail) -- assuming you are addressing me, wouldn't Barton have had to be in gutter as well? Are you on the one hand touting Barton for DA and on the other alleging Barton was "in the gutter"? As usual you make no sense. But if you would like to engage in a civil discussion of the relative merits of Bob Barton as DA vs. Lisa Green I would be more than happy to oblige.
posted by
timec
on Apr 11, 2008 at 08:01 AM
The Kern County Da's office are crooks....(Vincent Brothers, Bruce Sons, Offord Rollins)...and that is a fact. I do believe Lisa's name is on all three of these high profile murder cases; two of which were overturned by the appellate court and one that will be overturned. She is really good at what she does.... but will she follow the law and make these convictions stick. We have a man that admitted to killing a cop and he walks because Kern County tried to hide and swindle evidence. She will be another Jagels. Convict as many innocent or guilty people as possible and if the appellate court overturns the verdict then oh well. This strategy is wrong and I hope the next DA does not have this type of mentality. Lisa Green will convict an innocent person in a heartbeat and sleep like a baby at night. Wrong! posted by
soxford
on Apr 11, 2008 at 08:23 AM
timec: I really do believe what you say. I too have 0 confidence in the Kern County Justice system. Too many scandals and too many skeletons in the closet. I still remember reading about Jagels' divorce from his wife and how badly he treated his wife. This man obviously has no morals and no conscious. He just goes through life destroying people and their reputations and it does not phase him at all. Also I can never forget the Witch Hunt of the 1980's and how terrible that was. Just recently I had comment here, stating that I was falsely accused of molesting my daughter. Well obviously it was not true and nothing came of it, but the sting of this still hurts -- even after more than 20 years. However, there were many many poor innocents who were convicted and sent for long prison terms -- Brenda Kniffen and husband, Mccuan etc. I cannot remember all the names, but there were several poor innocents. Almost all of these cases were overturned by superior court. Most of the witnesses recanted their testimony, as they were only little children when the trials were going on. I am sure you natives of Kern County remember this if you are old enough. I probably watched it more closely than most, because in a way I was involved. Yes that was just a shameful chapter in our history. One we should like to forget. Then no one can forget the scandal involving the deputy assistant DA, Tauzer and Moore. I don't even want to go into this. But then you have people who really did commit some horrible crimes and seems like they are getting off -- Offord Rollins, OJ Simpson, etc. If you want justice, do not go to Kern County. posted by
timec
on Apr 11, 2008 at 08:57 AM
soxford Well said........I totally agree..... Like I have said many times...Thank God for appellate court. posted by
billyclone
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:11 AM
ChicoE - Yes, I was talking to you, and when I said the gutter, well I was referring to the fact that chihuahua's (your avatar) are only 8" tall... don't get yer knickers in a wad, homie. posted by
AudreyB
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:22 AM
posted by
mrkds1
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Oldblue, you are obviously a "Lisa Green" fan. Thats fine. It also shows that you not only support a D.A's office that isn't interested in justice, "just convictions at all cost" but folks like you are why they have been able to do injustice after injustice. You should become more informed about your county government and stop supporting folks just because they are from the same political party as yourself. Anyone who is truly interested in justice and FAIRNESS would demand a complete over haul of the corrupt office that is the district attorney! No need to comment on cases overturned, read the other post, they answered it for me. Because you are blind doesn't make me a liar. OPEN YOUR EYES OLDBLUE, OR GET SOME BETTER GLASSES! posted by
sagefever
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:39 AM
I like milkshakes and shaking things up (poor Mr Sage and his beers....) , and a change of guard entriques me I want more info on Mr. Barton. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Evidence once again of your studious attention to detail clone. That is not a chihuahua. Not by any means. But if you are for Bob Barton you have at least haplessly heaved your lurching careening out of control body (of "knowledge") into the right chair! Now just sit there please, stay quiet and don't blow it for Bob. With people like you in his camp the rational amongst the populace might suffer guilt by association and vote for other candidates. posted by
sagefever
on Apr 11, 2008 at 09:54 AM
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM
OldBlue also allowed as Bob Barton would be a good choice. If you want a rational, well thought out "overhaul" (not just change for change's sake) of the DA's office, then you could not have a better choice. Lisa is OK, but she hasn't the "presence" or speaking ability of Bob. Bob also has numerous contacts throughout the State at all levels. He is respected not only as a fine atty, he has the respect of the County DA's throughout the rest of CA. And, yes, he is one tough son of a gun. I can tell ya.................. posted by
OldBlue56
on Apr 11, 2008 at 03:57 PM
billyclone, read the second sentence of mrkds1's first post. Go slow though so you don't miss it again. And mrkds1, you still haven't listed the cases you were referring to about Lisa Green. Are you a coward too? Chico, did you know Barton is a former Marine? posted by
soltini
on Apr 11, 2008 at 05:15 PM
Great replace one idiot with another. Thats Bakersfield for you. posted by
OldBlue56
on Apr 11, 2008 at 05:31 PM
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 05:53 PM
OB, yes sir! (I try not to hold it against him though - haha!) Seriously, he's tough as a rawhide hondo and still fit as a Stradivarius at the Grand Ole Opry too!
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 06:03 PM
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 11, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Sox, you and my wife would get along. She hates Ed J. Ed is a vey smart guy. As smart as Bob is tough. Bob's sharp as a Gillette too, though. posted by
billyclone
on Apr 11, 2008 at 06:35 PM
ole blue?, ole blue?.. Hello?.. anyone home in there?.. Hmmm, looks like somebody's brain has left the premises and left the lights on... Again!
posted by
OldBlue56
on Apr 11, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Just got in from a great dinner out billybob. So tell me slick, did you read the sentence I pointed out? posted by
Mickeyfan
on Apr 11, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Wow! I had no idea that members of the general public had met all of the members of the DA's office....whether or not you agree with what a particular member of the office does, I think its stretch to claim that all members are crooks, liars, cheats, etc. How narrow minded do you have to be in order to dismiss even the possibility that the DA's are just as committed to doing their jobs as anyone else in the community? When you compare the pay and benefits compared to what can be made in the private sector with the same skills, there is ample evidence of dedication. A few bad apples, maybe - but I dare you to find a profession or organization in the world that doesn't have some who are a problem. I also suspect that one's perspective on the office has a lot to do with whether or not you've been a victim....seems like victims probably think the office does a great job of putting criminals in jail. Back to the issue, which is Lisa or Bob, still wanting more information. Both have given a large part of their life to public service, when either would have been able to make a whole lot more money using their skills and education in the private sector. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Apr 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Those of you that are concerned (justifiably or no) about over-charging, unethical prosecutions, evidence handling, etc. in the current DA's office would be best served by Barton IMHO. Lisa Green to me is more the type that will do anything to win. I have noticed this in many female prosecutors I have met, not sure why. Barton FWIW is IMHO about as straight a shooter as your gonna ever find in the lawyerin game. And one more thing......... if you had a problem with Ed Jagels, I always got the feeling that there was a lot of tension between Bob and Ed. Not sayin they out and out disliked one another, but there was tension IMO. He definitely would be a sea change from Jagels as far as the tenor of the office in general........
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