Maybe it is a true testament to the court bailiffs. It's probably a truer testament of citizens who have a sense of propriety and respect and know how to behave.

Good point, cat. As a Californian reporter covering courts, I believe most people show a great deal of respect for the authority and seriousness of the court process.

On the other hand, people with criminal records, their friends and families also make up a good percentage of those who visit Kern's courts.

-- S. Mayer

Certain friends and family members know how to act like civilized people. Far too many don't, though.

Many families in this valley, from the grandparents on down, act like nothing less than feral cats. It's spay and neuter time.

I'm going to stick my neck out on the line and guess the gals first names were something like Lenaynay, Shandrika, and Ch'rette.  

OB-That's probably a pretty darn good guess.

You guys are a couple of geniuses. At least you aren't trying to say you aren't racist. 

The odds aren't racist.  And they're going with the odds.

If that helps you justify racism, go right ahead. Just don't try to deny it.

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OldBlue, dude, that sounds a bit racist. What does the sound of someone's name have to do with anything?

You can tell OB used to be in law enforcement with that attitude

Sorry thier names were Wilma, Ethel, Billybob, Wilbur, Sallyjoe, Homer, .....

Yes maggiepoo, we know you think B-town is a hick village, thanks for your input!

So you are saying that those names could not be possible? Those are all names in my family ( except Sallyjoe, cute though).. what`s the deal ?

The truth is often racist, Pete; that doesn't stop it from being the truth.

Is jumping to conclusions the truth or racist ?

reyna805, respectfully, the only thing I can see from OldBlue is submental vomit  comming from an entity comfortable,  and a bit too self-satisfied, to spew annonymously in a blog with no other purpose in mind. I hope he doesn't represent the law enforcement community in B-town.

-virgil

There are no Sally Joes or Billy Bobs in my family. Both mom and dad grew up in the Ozarks, but their family members had names like George, Margaret, Mary, Catherine, Carl, Jesse, and so on.

Dizzy Dean was a friggin' hick, but he had a 98 mph fastball, which helped things.

I'm have to agree with Maggiepoo on this one.  I love Bakersfield.  But, the white trash of this town are far more ghetto than any ethnic group.  And, OldBlue...I'm guessing that you are sticking out your "redneck" right?

Mag, I wasn't talking about whether OB's comment was racist or not (I wouldn't call it jumping to conclusions; I would call it an educated guess), I was talking about "racist" comments in general. Any Caucasian who tells the painful truth about a minority is called a racist, but that doesn't mean that his/her racist statement isn't a true statement...

Please tell me someone got this on video.  Too funny.

I'd like to know what they were fighting about!   What could be so important that they'd have to throw down in front of the court house rather than waiting until later to do a drive by?

OB/Michelle

Don't piss me off........

 I am glad to see I have some help ...not that I needed any...

Old Blue is an ex gang member  ......he use to bang BPD (BAKERSFIELD POLICE DEPT).....he decided to change his life around so he retired.....and we should all be proud of him...

timec, you are being a nagger again. Quit nagging!

Timec-Not trying to piss you off, we do that quite well ----J/K!!! Seriously, has anyone heard anything else about this. Like what were they fighting about, I will keep my opinion to myself on what I think it was.

Nevermind, I answered my own question and read the update on the courthouse brawl. 

After reading the update I'll be the first to say that I understand how it could have happened.  I'm sure there were a lot of emotions and harsh words wouldn't be surprising.

Oh yes Nancy-I bet the emotions were running extremely high.  I'm surprised one side wasn't let out before the other party.  They will proably do that from here on out.

When I first saw this blog I thought this sounded like a child custody fray. But I can see that it was about some very deep hurt. Negligence and death. A sad, sad combination. I could see myself losing it in this case, especially if my child was killed.

Oldblue's comment was certainly uncalled for, whatever the case.

I see on the arrest log from yesterday that these gal's names are Jamika, Karnesha, and Quemesha. I guess I didn't get them quite right, but I was close....

What charming thug were the families fighting about.  No doubt he's worth the injuries.

Your educated guess was absolutely correct, OB.

Three Bakersfield women arrested after a brawl broke out in front of the downtown courthouse Tuesday have been identified by the Kern County Sheriff’s Department.

Quemesha Ellis, 21, and Jamika Walker, 20, were arrested on charges of fighting in public and resisting arrest. Karnesha Sawyers, 28, was arrested on the single charge of fighting in public.

The fighting broke out at just after 11 a.m. outside the glass doors of the county justice building at Truxtun and Chester avenues. Sheriff’s deputies assigned to Kern County Superior Court used pepper spray to break up the fight.

What apparently began inside the courthouse as a verbal exchange between two families escalated into a physical confrontation outside. Other women who were not arrested were left wiping pepper spray residue from their eyes following the incident.

A witness said the women had been attending a hearing for 21-year-old Michael Montgomery, who is accused of driving drunk and ramming his vehicle into a tree earlier this year, killing two passengers in the car. The incident apparently erupted between members of the victims’ families and the defendant’s supporters.

-- BNT member Steven Mayer

Pretty darn close OB, good call......

I bet Montgomery's family was trying to explain to the victim's family that he had just started a new job, joined the church last Sunday,and is a good family man who was trying to "turn his life around"

The victim's family didn't buy it.   I hope the victims family won round 1.

Old Blue

When will they learn to wear something more substantial than a tank top  if they're going to engage in street fighting.  At least thier bras held up to all the pulling and scratching.  Maybe Hanes  could hire them to do endorsements.

Honestly!

At least the brawl was understandable and not over some hogwash like "She wz lookin' at my man."

Good call OB...and why am I not surprised?  Although the Billy Bob thing would have been just as likely.  You hardly EVER see Seven Oaks folks fighting on the courthouse steps.  They settle their disputes with lawyers.

Did you see me say they were better than everyone else?  They have more money for atty's AND they don't usually settle disagreements with fists.  You tell ME why that is.

I doubt that it's the color of their skin, or their name.

Too much of a lady

Too uppity... or too intelligent to feel that a punch will settle anything?

Having said that, I'm not uppity, don't live in Seven Oaks (I live in the 'Dale) and have never been in a fight in my life.  However, if my child was killed in an accident like that and cross words were spoken by the "other side" I might have gone for them too.   As I said, this was understandable considering the circumstances.

Grief and rage at a senseless death of a youngster changes the rules.

The folks in Seven Oaks know that there are worse punishments that "going for someone" phsically.  Nancy got it right.  If you want to really punish someone, take them to court and then take them to the cleaners.

LOL..If you guys had seen me rolling around on the concrete patio trying to pry my little dog out of my big dogs jaws screaming and cussing her, you sure wouldn't have called me a lady.  I didn't break a nail but my labs fang punctured one along with my hand so that I bled like a stuck hog.  That didn't even take into consideration my skinned knees and elbows.  I thought I was wrasslin' an aligator.  So much for ladylike behavior.

To all who are wondering how and what here it goes, I am related to victum Rianna Zamarripa who died in the car crash, Michael Montgomery is trying to say he is innocent when the truth is he was drunk and tried to run from the scence, but due to his small injuries he couldnt get far. The californian news needs to update the story on how it took place regarding that man! He is NOT innocent at all. Now regarding the fight  Quemesha and Karnesha are the ones who started the whole thing name calling, and then tried to jump my aunt Diane Bell from behind. Miss Walker was protecting my aunt and herself from theses Hood Rats! As a matter of fact Quemesha is the one who gave Michael Montgomery her car keys KNOWING her boyfriend was drunk therefor I feel she as well should be punished and sent to jail. Thanks to Audrey B and Husbandmaterial.

Other than being terrified he was fine.  The blood he had all over him, unfortunately, was mine.  She shook him like a rag doll but apparently only by the hair..she didn't even break the skin.  On him anyway.

selina, thank you for the update of what really happened. After reading your post, I closed my eyes and could clearly visualize the entire incident. Too bad I couldn't hear all the yellin' and hollerin'.

And the last I heard, EVERYONE is presumed innocent until they plead guilty or are convicted by a jury. Even a loser like Montgomery.