hey jl79, guess you know the right story but the poor welfare vitcim is wanting the attention and someone to feel sorry for her ? pay her rent and utilties and buy her some new tires for her car thats what she wants!

Hey Nancy its not simple enough... I know both parties involved and unless you do you shouldnt say that you doubt they would plan an attack!!!!!

They could have just dropped a knee cap, that always put em out of action. ;=)))

jl79 I doubt those guys sat down and plotted an attack.  The guy was beating the crap out of a woman and they jumped him.  Simple enough.

It's acceptable to violate someone's civil rights when they violate those of a child or a woman..

How is it that you are a "good samaritan" when you go to this man's house TOGETHER to attack him???

Yeah,

what ever Pablo

It doesn't matter now. They will NOT be charged as the DA has said there is no way they could get a jury to convict them. I agree. The "heat of the moment" defense would have been employed in any case and would have been successful. Anselmo is right about malice. Even if there were, there is no way it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As to them getting a public defender had they been charged, Are you serious? There would have been a line of pro bono lewyers to handle this case. If not for the idea that they would hope someone would protect a loved in that situation, then for the exposure!

Just a little jocularity lana.

At least YOU got it.

(not the stick though ;-)  )

All this T-Bone and Dr. Dre crap was gettin to me.............

OB -- I haven't seen the lady in question but perhaps if he had, THAT just might have qualified as  "overkill" ??  ;-)

OB...wow...just...wow....

Yes Michele you are correct about the reference, and my daughter was also in that car. You have a very blessed day yourself.

I don't think any one should take the law in thier own hands.  I do believe these guys did the right thing and felt they needed to go all the way so Bogue wouldn't come after them with the knife or stick.  The guy is a coward and is the kind of person that would only pick on old people, women and children.  It's easy to see he (Bogue) wasn't playing with a full deck or he wouldn't be doing what he was doing. If he is so tuff then why didn't he kick the other guys but?  He also sliced a seven year olds swimming pool.  What was she going to do?  I think he was out of control.  When these guys saw all that was going on,  they did what they thought was right.  After all they weren't out looking for a fight.  I do wish they would have stopped short of knocking the guy out.  I also would like to think Bogue learned a lesson and sees how it feels to have done onto you as you do onto others.  If any one gets sued it will go down to the fact that alot of people are afraid to get envolved because of the outcome.

I thought I recognized your log-in name from another post.  You blogged with us when "Tre" I think last name was Goddard was killed correct?

Anyhow, this is what blogging is about, giving our own opinions and replying to any and all posts, it is a public forum.  Nice chatting with you and have a good day!!

LMAO.....It was a typo Michele, let go of the bone. I used the name Dre to make the point, in the original scenario but in the post reference I did type Tre, let me correct that..."DRE".  I really don't care what this topic is about, my point is to show how different people view issues when ethnicities are different from their own. I did not appreciate the comments made in other blogs when the stories were related to minorities and how acceptable the forums were to deduce the issues at hand to racial circumstance, and it is my right to post my opinion. It seems harsh to point out differences we have no control over such as ethnicity when the issue at hand requires not our judgments and insecurities but our compassion. The men are guilty of assault with a deadly weapon, and they should be charged. We know now that they won't be, and as understanding as many are to this issue, these men took the law into their own hands, and they should have been charged accordingly. Oh...michele, I originally was just giving my opinion....you didn't need to reply but in doing so you opened the door, now I'm closing it.

Charlotte-I'm not going back and forth with you so please go back and re-read your post dated today at 226pm.  Better yet, let me copy and paste it for you.  Please don't talk to me racial profiling done against black and jobs, I do know it exists but this is not about race and jobs. 

Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.

And that's where I seen the Tre.

Michele,

No I did not, furthermore; I did not use the name Tre, I used Dre. I am a firm believer in "Freedom of Speech" , even if it isn't something I want to hear. I also believe in everyone having  rights to their own opinions. I can't determine someone's race just by their name, but you make a good argument for the alleged racial profiling done against blacks when they apply for jobs....THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH Michele, PRICELESS. It's odd, but I know a white guy named Tre, and a white guy named T-Bone, but those aren't their birth names. Their birth names are Trevis and Timothy. I have a very, very warped sense of humor, so I don't think you could possibly know what I consider funny to be. Hmmm....now you dictating to me what is necessary and funny....that's FUNNY :)

Charlotte-you did when you brought in the names.  The only 3 T-Bones I know are black.  The only 2 Tre's I know are black and spell there name different. You did and it really wasn't necessary or funny at that.

Funny business going on here.

Good thing Bogue didn't beat her with the infamous "ugly stick" we have all heard about....

Lana,

Yes I did .....What?

Very true Hue,

These men broke the law, but ...the "good-ole" boys of Bakersfield always take care of their own. Regardless of  my lack of knowledge in what happened, if it is a fact that these men beat another man unconscious...and the man was no threat to them, they should have called the police first.

Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.

P.S. Michele....I didn't bring anyone's race into anything. Thanks for making my point.

No One likes a kids or woman beater.  But was there not another crime committed?  No matter how it was ever explained, when I was wrong I had to pay the pipper.  So you cant server partial justice here.  If it is about the law, it should always be about the law.  Not ok when some are ok with laws broken.  Next you know, someone will rob a store and the owners will retailiate by robbing them back.  Laws are laws.

Well we dont ever appreciate the beatter of kids asnd women.  But were these two not guilty in the end of a crime themselves.  It has never mattered how you sliced and diced, when I was guilty, I had to pay the pipper.

The part I thought was funny is when they dropped the charges they said no jury would convict them anyway.  LOL...waste of tax payer dollars.

Lana and Michelle - Thanks for saying what I wanted to, but couldn't.

There are a few people who will ALWAYS jump to conclusions before all is known. Always have been, always will be. 

This incident happened in public and the public chose to act. Pure and simple. Maybe, notice the maybe, maybe they knew the guy would be a continued threat if conscious. I still don't know.

The D.A., at least in this case, showed some common sense in dropping charges. Thanks to all who spoke up, blogged and e-mailed to keep me posted yesterday.

Real cute charlotteswebb66 (hear my sarcasim?).   He beat her in public, what were they supposed to do call the cops and sit and watch? I don't agree at all with any man, regardless of race to beat on a woman, that's wrong and not how I was raised.  But you know, if she does go back to him, shame on her.

One more thing, your point was understood, we aren't morons here.  I just can't figure out why would you bring race into the picture.  GEEEEZZZZ!!

What is more pathetic, a woman-beater, or a woman that continually finds herself being beaten by the same woman-beater?

I wouldn't want to be 6 ft under trying to protect a woman that doesn't want to protect herself.

Maybe my point may be understood if I phrase it like this......"Shanequa, was being beat by Tyrone, but "Dre and T-Bone jumped Tyrone and beat him almost to death". Now, maybe there will be a different outlook...hmmm no question about whether Dre and T-Bone are gang members...no questions about whether Dre and T-Bone have previous criminal records... no question about whether Dre and T-Bone ever had previous trouble-making past?

How odd this forum is?

Those men had no right to beat that man unconscious...they became judges; jury; and executioners. What gave them the right to exact that punishment?

Certainly if I was getting my a** beat, I'd appreciate the help from anyone!! I'm glad the charges were dropped as they should've been in the first place.  And maybe she will go back to the woman beater but at least these guys won't have to look back and say they should have, could have and would have while she could've been 6 feet under.

Hmmm...what are these guys names....uhh...Jerry...Travis....and Anthony....wouldn't think guys with names like that would be involved in a ......FIGHT!!! OMG...WHAT? Oh shoot....the last names....dang : (

Wow, and they weren't even being attacked? You mean, they were trying to defend a helpless woman, who was being beaten. I guess if you are trying to defend  yourself, the LAW finds fault, but as long as you are trying to protect someone else, it's o.k to use "OVERKILL" and hospitalize.

The men should be charged. There was no reason for beating the suspect to the point of unconsciousness. Any woman who has been beaten to this degree is not a virgin to being assaulted. Unfortunately, calling the police should have been the only intervention.

Had these men been injured themselves trying to protect this woman, would be greatly disappointed to know, that 9 times out of 10, she will go back to this "woman-beater".

I agree with Lana...he would know my license plate number from constant reminder....lol.

        & nbsp;     some one is willing to help a person in need, and everyone goes after them like there some every day gang bangers, as far as im concerned they did'nt beat his ass enough if he's able to walk out of the hospital i think he needed a lil more...

travis and anthony should be out tonight, jarry's lil bitch ass goes to court monday

I hope he goes to prison for beating this girl friend. Yes once in prison he will meet his kind. They will see him as weak for attacking his girl friend then whining in public. I'd be embarrassed to show my face. As for the two who rescued the woman. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING UP FOR THIS WOMAN. Usually a weak man like this has many more victims in the past and will have in the future. I would support if someone got a fund going for these two GOOD SAMARITANS if no law firm steps up for them. I would donate to a fund which has been set up. As for those who believe they went to far. I have seen the countless victimization of others and remember as a youngster on various occasions stepped up. I was only 18 years this one time and this guy was beating a 8 month pregnant ex-girl friend at a bus stop. He had broke her nose as I got out of my car alone after midnight in East Los Angeles. I now what happens to someone when they see others in need and step in. When your adrenaline pumps you do not stop until the criminal stops. You have to stop the threat and you keep going until they say uncle or you knock them out. This guy here ran, luckily for me cause I was scared, getting tired, but I didn't stop pounding till the threat was gone. I then got her in my car and took her three blocks to the Police Station. I told them what I did to him and she agreed. She was given medical attention and thanked me. The police also thanked me and patted  me on the back sent on my way and waited to be called for a witness once they arrested him. I had this happen to me two more times over the next several months where I was in a position to help someone being assaulted, it is scary. But people do it.  I bet this idiot in Bakersfield kept fighting till they dropped him and if he didn't who cares.

I can see him now in the hospital thinking how he can sue these two GOOD SAMARITANS civilly. When he gets to prison he will get a jail house lawyer to help him do it.  

Ya see unless something is done immediately for the victim, the victim becomes more severely injured. The Law Enforcement unless there at the time of the crime can only respond when called. I am thank full for the Law Enforcement here in Kern County. I support them and know they do an excellent job. Just think everyday they go out and enforce the Law and have to remain with in the Law. That's hard to do, but they they do it. They are professionals and are trained,  and yet they also have emotions.  Unless these two citizens have been trained how can they be prosecuted. They just wanted to stop the threat.

Suppose, they beat the guy causing serious injury? You think charges would be appropriate?

--virgil

Ha! Well said....

--virgil

To be honest, I'm glad these guys didn't get charged with anything. Now they need to apply for a job in law enforcement, assuming they can pass the background investigation. (Which I doubt they can).

Just think, they could beat people with a stick all the time and get paid for it!

No, dude, just beat him in the knees a few times, crack some ribs, maybe the jaw and don't forget across the bridge of the nose.

--virgil

I would have just slit his throat. Nuff said

Hey Blue -

I agree with you that there should have been limits to the response of the two neighbors.  It's  all theoretical because we were not there; but,  looking at it from the outside as we are doing, is there an inherent limit  to what can justifiably be done in a situation like that.

Honestly, if the guy suffered serious damage, do you think charges would have been filed by the DA?

--virgil

No feces involved. Got a call from the wife. I'm wondering if he can get released in time to make it to work. We've all been wondering if he'd lose his job...

Ya, call it the teenager in me, but i find it fricking awesome that guy got beat up with the same weapon he was beating the woman up with!

On a more serious note, would they have still been arrested if the stick wasnt used? I mean since attacking someone with my fist can be construed as assault with a deadly weapon, I am chuck norris certified.

Edit: Dropped charges for the win!

OH NO! You are joking right? How long until timec pops up and spews her dribble about Klan Kounty justice?

All charges were just dropped against the two. As of 15 minutes ago. Justice is served.

Who's to say that the knockout was overboard?  One well-placed blow can knock a person out.  So far, I do't believe there's been anything to indicate that they repeatedly beat him in the head, or if one of them got lucky with one good hit.