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BreakingNewsTeam - > Breaking News -> Frazier Park women busted for alleged mother/daughter prostitution offer
Frazier Park women busted for alleged mother/daughter prostitution offer

Solicitation for prostitution arrest in Frazier Park.

This is a news release of the Kern County Sheriff's Office.
Please do not contact the Sheriff's Communications Center.

Date:  Monday, September 28, 2009
Time:  11:09:24 AM
Department Contact: Mark Brown

On September 25, 2009, at approximately 5:00 PM, the Bakersfield Police Department/Kern County Sheriff’s Office Joint Vice Unit arrested Katherine Silvers and Sarah Sunshine on the 5200 block of Frazier Park Road, in Frazier Park, for solicitation of prostitution. 

Vice Unit officers answered Craigslist.com and Backpage.com listings in which Silvers and Sunshine offered a one hour mother/ daughter “special massage” for $250.00.  The listings also offered a $60.00 bonus option promising a, “smile_massage_smile.”

Silvers and Sunshine were arrested after they offered to perform a sexual act on an undercover officer in exchange for money.  
 

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posted by BakoBeachBumm on Sep 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Nothing like keeping it in the family.

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Most of the mature in the animal kingdom don't recognize each other as being related.  These two seem to have regressed on the evolutionary chain.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM

 

 

"These two seem to have regressed on the evolutionary chain."

You See what poverty does  in the land of plenty  ?

--virgil

posted by JeffHarbin on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:09 PM

At $250 a pop, it won't take too many tag-team happy endings to jet them well above the poverty line.

Spam Code: JIEZN  (seems appropriate for this story)

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:21 PM

 

Spam Code: JIEZN  (seems appropriate for this story)

Ha ... funny .

She's selling her daughter.

Would You perform fellatio on a stranger because you are hungry, or you need gas for your car, or even a  prepaid cell phone card ? Evidently,  some people do. I doubt it's a happy decision, though.

--virgil

posted by tuttsted on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:45 PM

www.turnto23.com/news/21122814/detail.html

 "Silvers, who is in her 50s, is a clerk for the William S. Hart High School district in Santa Clarita."

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:45 PM

<edited, wasn't mean to direct the comment at Virgil only, went a different track then originally had planned...sorry Virgil)

Some people just figure there is an easier way out there to make money and will do whatever it takes, even if it involves "smile_massage_smile" with their daughters, I guess.

Of course, the daughter is mentioned, so she is obviously an adult and not a child, therefore, I am pretty sure this is a mutual decision to take advantage of some poor schmucks who have no idea they could probably get a better rate on Union Avenue.

posted by learnem on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:48 PM

WW

you been checkin rates on UNION??   lol

 

Heck virgil...there are probably people that would do that for FREE all day long

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:53 PM

Learnem,

Not lately, but we drove down Union to get home from the fair and from what I saw, I can't see that merchandise going for $250 a pop. =-)

Of course, it wasn't a mother-daughter deal, so that does raise some challenges in deciding which is cheaper.  I am not up on the supply/demand of mother-daughter deals.  I'm sure Virgil knows.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 01:55 PM

 

 Well,

as they say, the oldest profession in human history is begging.

--virgil

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 02:33 PM

virgil is so naive.  at $250 a pop for how long (virgil can probably enlighten us there) a couple of times a night or even a few times a week beats 40 hours a week EACH for mommy and daughter at a real job.

Here ya go virg....

http://www.slate.com/id/222...

 

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 02:57 PM

 

 Nancy you have a distinct  tendency towards mean spiritedness.

 

I wonder how many $250 mother -daughter massages were performed before their arrest?

Imagine, advertising on something like craigslist and presuming you're gonna get some good business - not very astute,  were they?

--virgil

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:03 PM

Virgil,

Why does it matter how many times they actually did this?  Are you going to argue against law enforcement methods in this too?

 

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:12 PM

Observer,

Task forces, like this one, can work in various jurisdictions.  For example, the Cal-Mmet Unit includes representatives of various local agencies, therefore they are not required to remain in one specific area, such as the City, Shafter PD's boundaries, etc.  Cal-Mmet could conduct investigations in the city, the county or outlying areas. 

Since this Task Force is a joint operation by BPD and the KSCO, they can also operate in areas that fall under the jurisdication of the Sheriff's Department, not just BPD.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:13 PM

 

 Woman,

Nancy's talking de-evolution of certain members of the human species and I'm talking about the forces of want in the land of plenty. She insinuated I knew these two only after making fun of a real situation that most people would not chose if it were not for circumstances.

Law Enforcement personnel are bureaucrats we pay to watch us for our safety.  What do you mean about their methods?

--virgil

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:18 PM

Virgil,

The woman was 50, the daughter was 30.  The obviously had access to a computer that allowed them to set up this type of "operation."  I highly doubt the 30-year old daughter was being co-errced into the act.  You are right, there most people would not chose this situation, but the remaining look at it as an easy way to make money.  If it wasn't, it wouldn't still be around after hundreds of years.

I mean that you always have a criticism for law enforcement in most actions reported here, I was waiting for the usual, "This is what we spend our money on," or "_______ (Insert crime being arrested for, in this case, prostitution) doesn't hurt anybody," the usual arguments you use when discussing cops. 

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:28 PM

virgil, I did NOT insinuate you knew these people.  And yes it was mean spirited to insinuate you might know how long a trick lasts and for that I apologize.  I was out of line.

Re: regression on the evolutionary chain was in reference to the mother daughter tag team twofer.  Generally in the "other" part of the animal world mothers and daughters and sons and fathers don't realize their related..or care since they are only interested in procreating.  In "our" world, it seems a bit unnatural for a mother and daughter to share a .....ummm...customer?

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:32 PM

Wndr also has a point in that considering they had a computer AND access to the internet AND had a phone, they weren't very destitute.

There's no doubt these women have a very low opinion of themselves to become prostitutes but poverty isn't always the reason women turn to that lifestyle.  There have been some pretty famous and wealthy call girls and madams if you recall the news just some years back.  Some even involved politicians and church leaders.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:32 PM

 

Thank You, Nancy.

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:39 PM

 

Nancy,

even the famous one's started at the bottom.

With that said, I'm not saying prostitution is inherently wrong - I don't think it is.  And, for that reason, prostitution, as a profession can be diginified.

--virgil

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:40 PM

Observer,

Excellent point.  Of course, arrests equal continued funding for the group, so that thought probably comes before a lot of others. =-)

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:41 PM

I don't think it's the prostitution that really makes this story, but the fact that it was a mother/daughter two-fer.  Most people see prostition arrest and skip over it, but when you see "Mother/daughter" in the headline, it causes one to take a second look.

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:44 PM

Not necessarily all virgil.  Models and wanna be stars give in to the profession as well. 

People who don't have a Christian belief or faith wouldn't see it as immoral.  Christians do since it speaks to adultry.

Even if I wasn't a Christian, if I found out my hubby was a patron he's be out on the street with his clothes.  And not packed for him either.  Then he'd have all the time in the world to visit the "Ladies of the night."

posted by NancyII on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:47 PM

Wndrwoman, I think you nailed it.  It's the "you've gotta be kidding" thing.

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 28, 2009 at 03:58 PM

Nancy,

I've seen previews for that show on HBO, those girls aren't doing it for any reason other than they like the money and the attention.  If you are living the good life doing prostitution, the argument that you are only doing it to make ends meet loses some of it's merit.

I know when I see "prostitution ring busted!" stories, I will check them out for humor value (just like you would read a story about a celeb and a prostitute).  I don't pay too much attention until I see the "They were WHAT?"  <Shudder>

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 28, 2009 at 04:01 PM

 Christianity is fundamentally an experiential religion,  a pluralistic religion,  which offers guidance to individuals .

I can't use my distinct experience of what is good to condemn something else for somebody else. Prostitution is a reality. As I understand it, the core of christian spirituality, Nancy, is to teach by example not condemnation.

--virgil

posted by tuttsted on Sep 28, 2009 at 04:28 PM

According to the slide show that's found in the link (see images), the ladies claim to be "professionally trained CMTs"

And, as I posted above, mom had a day job as a clerk at the William S Hart High School district in Santa Clarita.  Just sayin'.

www.turnto23.com/news/21122814/detail.html

posted by MyTwoCents on Sep 29, 2009 at 08:27 AM

What a great reminder - only 86 days left until Christmas.........

I'm sure we will have all sorts of interesting reading material in the coming months.

posted by lanabuford on Sep 29, 2009 at 09:35 AM

Those are some ugly women...i can't believe they were actually trying to sell that nasty stuff!  

posted by goldilox on Sep 29, 2009 at 09:38 AM

lana - gross men that would pay a skank for sex, obviously dont care what they look like, they deserve u g l  y ! LOL

 

posted by lanabuford on Sep 29, 2009 at 09:45 AM

LOL! goldilox....Did you see how far down the mark out line went before it actually covered up the moms breast!....Ewwww!

 

posted by goldilox on Sep 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM

BLUCK !!

The MEN that hire any whores/prostitutes are even GROSSER than the skanks....

PUKE.

Where are the Johns?  why arent they on this blog defending their women?  LOL

posted by RedRuby on Sep 29, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Silvers has more than one name, and a criminal record attached to it.  Charges were dropped in that case as she testified against her husband at that time.  

 

 

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