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BrothersTrial - > The People vs. Vincent Brothers -> Simplest of things aren't easy in Brothers trial
Simplest of things aren't easy in Brothers trial
A key element of the Vincent Brothers trial is how many miles he put on his rental car during his visit to Ohio in July 2003.

Should be simple. The mileage listed on the paperwork to take out the car and the mileage listed on its return.

But apparently it isn't. Because the prosecution is putting on witnesses who drove the car before and after Brothers drove it.

That's because the rental car company kept  shoddy records, the defense claims.

Also at issue in the trial is whether the defendant's brother, Melvin was coerced by investigators to give damaging evidence against Vincent.

There's more coming on this issue, but tapes played Tuesday show that Bakersfield police Sgt. Jeff Watts simply offered proof that Melvin fibbed to them about using Vincent's credit card.

That certainly feels like coercion when you're caught in a bald faced lie, but it's more like, "Hey,  Melvin, do you want to get your story in line with the evidence?"

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posted by steveeswenson on Mar 6, 2007 at 11:05 AM
Since I posted this, we learned that Detective Don Krueger didn't check the mileage on Vincent's car.

I'm not sure if that means Don didn't check and some other officer did, or no officer checked. If no officer checked, that's too weird.
Because at the news conferences held in the days immediately following the discovery of the victims. every reporter there asked the question of what evidence did the police have that Vincent came back to California.

I can't wait to see where all this goes.
posted by anonymous on Mar 6, 2007 at 02:10 PM
Steve I know you are a stand up kind of guy. The prosecutions case is not looking so good huh? If the trail was over today what would your verdict be?
posted by steveeswenson on Mar 6, 2007 at 08:43 PM

No one can give a valid opinion this early in the trial. Not only is the evidence not in but I've only heard what I read in the newspaper.

 

I could avoid your question that way, but the honest answer is if I had to vote now, it would be not guilty. Not enough evidence to convict.

 

As I've said before, let's see how this plays out.

posted by anonymous on Mar 6, 2007 at 10:04 PM
Steve, go to Mapquest dot com, and put in the driving miles from Vincent's mothers town to Bakersfield, and then back there. You will be amazed when that part of the testimony comes out...
posted by anonymous on Mar 7, 2007 at 07:37 AM

Steve thanks for your honesty! I listen to the trial on my computer daily so we will see what happens.

posted by tiny on Mar 15, 2007 at 07:22 PM

So far I am amazed at how weak the prosecution's evidence is, especially in light of the length of time that it took the prosecution to put together enough evidence to charge the defendant with a crime.  The Californian faithfully and tiresomely reports what Lisa Green "thinks", but what she believes or thinks happened is not "evidence."

posted by anonymous on Mar 15, 2007 at 09:21 PM

Tiny, unless you have personally been in the courtroom during the trial so far, you have no idea what has really taken place. Reading the daily updates in the Californian, and reading EVERY DAY that Brothers is accused of killing his family, when he was arrested, the dates, ect., you don't know the whole story. And when a family of five is slaughtered, including 3 children, waiting a few months to investigate the crime, compile the reports, bring it before the Grand Jury, and get an indictment, within a year, is not a long time.

Remember, the Californian prints stories to get readers to read the paper, and sell newspapers. They can slant the story anyway they want to, and most people are never the wiser. 

And go easy on Lisa Green. She is having  to deal with two of the most incompetent defense attorneys in this town!

posted by Susan_Weagle on Mar 30, 2007 at 03:55 PM
AS a former Bakersfield resident I have followed this case as best I could from afar it seems to me that the prosecutor must put  Vincent in the town on the day of the Killings if not the whole case goes away I also believe the Police may have put undo pressure on Melvin to change his story and if the Jury believes that given the situation he will be voted not guilty . I know they had some witness that claimed they saw him but not being in court I don't know how reliable they were Don from Florida
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