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All Whites Are Racists!
BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
University to students: 'All whites are racist' Mandatory program 'treats' politically incorrect attitudes A mandatory http://www.udel.edu/preside... target="_blank">University of Delaware program requires residence hall students to acknowledge that "all whites are racist" and offers them "treatment" for any incorrect attitudes regarding class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality they might hold upon entering the school, according to a civil rights group. "Somehow, the University of Delaware seems terrifyingly unaware that a state-sponsored institution of higher education in the United States does not have the legal right to engage in a program of systematic thought reform. The First Amendment protects the right to freedom of conscience – the right to keep our innermost thoughts free from governmental intrusion. It also protects the right to be free from compelled speech," said a letter from Samantha Harris, director of legal and public advocacy for The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education to university President Patrick Harker. The organization cited excerpts from the university's Office of Residence Life Diversity Education Training documents, including the statement: "A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. 'The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination….'" The education program also notes that "reverse racism" is "a term created and used by white people to deny their white privilege." And "a non-racist" is called "a non-term," because, the program explains, "The term was created by whites to deny responsibility for systemic racism, to maintain an aura of innocence in the face of racial oppression, and to shift the responsibility for that oppression from whites to people of color (called 'blaming the victim')." The "education" regarding racism is just one of the subjects that students are required to adopt as part of their University of Delaware experience, too, FIRE noted. The "shocking program of ideological reeducation," which the school itself defines as a "treatment" for students' incorrect attitudes and beliefs, is nothing less than "Orwellian," FIRE said. The school requires its approximately 7,000 residence hall students "to adopt highly specific university-approved views on issues ranging from politics to race, sexuality, sociology, moral philosophy and environmentalism." "FIRE is calling for the total dismantling of the program, which is a flagrant violation of students' rights to freedom of conscience and freedom from compelled speech," the organization said. On a foundation blog, a student noted that one residence assistant told students, "Not to scare anyone or anything, but these are MANDATORY!!" And the training program for those who indoctrinate students includes the order: "A researcher must document that the treatment/intervention was faithfully applied (ex: specific lesson plans were delivered to every student, etc.)." Further, the school requires "a systemic change" as a result of the program, FIRE noted. As one RA told students: "Like it or not, you all are the future Leaders, and the world is Diverse, so learning to Embrace and Appreciate that diversity is ESSENTIAL." "The University of Delaware's residence life education program is a grave intrusion into students' private beliefs," FIRE President Greg Lukianoff said. "The university has decided that it is not enough to expose its students to the values it considers important; instead, it must coerce its students into accepting those values as their own. At a public university like Delaware, this is both unconscionable and unconstitutional." According to university materials, RAs are instructed to ask students during one-on-one sessions questions such as: "When did you discover your sexual identity?" "When were you first made aware of your race?" and "Who taught you a lesson in regard to some sort of diversity awarness? What was the lesson?" "Students who express discomfort with this type of questioning often meet with disapproval from their RAs, who write reports on these one-on-one sessions and deliver these reports to their superiors. One student identified in a write-up as an RA's 'worst' one-on-one session was a young woman who stated that she was tired of having 'diversity shoved down her throat,'" FIRE said. This particular student responded to the question, "When did you discover your sexual identity?" with the terse: "That is none of your damn business," FIRE said. Requirements for students include: "Students will recognize that systemic oppression exists in our society," "Students will recognize the benefits of dismantling systems of oppression," and "Students will be able to utilize their knowledge of sustainability to change their daily habits and consumer mentality," FIRE said. The foundation said students even are "pressured or even required" to make social statements that meet with the school's approval. "The fact that the university views its students as patients in need of treatment for some sort of moral sickness betrays a total lack of respect not only for students' basic rights, but for students themselves," Lukianoff said. "The University of Delaware has both a legal and a moral obligation to immediately dismantle this program, and FIRE will not rest until it has." A spokesman for the school, contacted by WND, said he was not ready to make a statement about the situation right away. But the foundation's letter to Harker noted, "we have never encountered a more systematic assault upon the individual liberty, dignity, privacy, and autonomy of university students than this program," which "requires students to adopt highly specific university-approved views on issues." "Such utter contempt for the autonomy and free agency of others is the hallmark of totalitarianism and has no place in any free society, let alone at a public university in the state of Delaware," the letter said. Especially alarming, Harris told WND, is that the school defines learning specifically as "attitudinal or behavioral changes," not acquiring any sort of knowledge and ability. Such thinking "represents a distorted idea of 'education' that one would more easily associate with a Soviet prison camp than with an American institution of higher education," FIRE said. "As another example, after an investigation showed that males demonstrated 'a higher degree of resistance to educational efforts,' the Rodney complex chose to hire 'strong male RAs.' Each such RA 'combats male residents' concepts of traditional male identity,' in order to 'ensure the delivery of the curriculum at the same level as in the female floors.' This language is disturbingly reminiscent of a pivotal scene from George Orwell's '1984,' in which the protagonist's captors tell him that 'The Party is not interested in the overt act: the thought is all we care about. We do not merely destroy our enemies, we change them.'" No small danger, FIRE noted, is being presented to the university through such apparent constitutional violations. "Simply put, the residence life education program is a legal minefield," the group said. One student reacted to the indoctrination with rebellion. On the FIRE blog, he wrote: "Take the issue of homosexuality, and the rights that should or should not be associated with it. As a Christian, I believe that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, and is a sin against God. As such, I cannot accept it as a legitimate lifestyle. While I accept homosexuals as people, I do not accept their choice as right, and subsequently I do not think that homosexual couples should be given marital rights. I accept that others do not hold the same views as me. But it is wrong that under the Residence Life curriculum and school mandated curriculum that I should made to feel guilty for my views. … It is not the school's right to try to convince me to embrace the values that Residence Life has chosen. Essentially, if I do not change my views, I will be labeled by my RA as not embracing diversity, and not accepting of certain groups, and thus my RA will try all the harder to change me. This is not the school's job, or right." http://worldnetdaily.com/ne... 63 comments from 13 users
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Oct 31, 2007 at 07:39 PM
Timec, you might need to send your brothers to this school. I think they could get a "scholarship" You too for that matter................. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08 PM
jeeez Timec........ any port in a storm.........
posted by
OldBlue56
on Oct 31, 2007 at 08:28 PM
Hey Timec, some trick or treaters just came to my door. Were you one of them, dressed up like Vincent Brothers with a gun, knife, and bottle of No-Doze in your hand?
posted by
RoyTullis
on Oct 31, 2007 at 09:27 PM
Chico. Who teaches this class, Ward Churchill, Rev. Jesse or Rev. Sharpton? Murphy, send that one my way. posted by
OldBlue56
on Oct 31, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Murph, you are quite the neighbor!
posted by
dgrealish
on Oct 31, 2007 at 09:39 PM
Didn't Hitler try similar tactics?
posted by
johnburnssucks
on Oct 31, 2007 at 10:02 PM
people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination….'" People of color cannot participate in institutional racism, because we whites have the ability to be in power. But as far as individual racism goes, anyone can participate. timec is proof of that, along with Reverends Tweedly-Dee and Tweedly-Dummy. Many blacks are racist when it comes to Asians; Spike Lee is proof of that. Americans of Mestizo descent are often racist when it comes to Nacos, because Nacos often have more Indio blood. posted by
Baylee
on Nov 1, 2007 at 06:49 AM
Thats sad.
posted by
sagefever
on Nov 1, 2007 at 10:08 AM
I once worked with a Chinese woman who fled as the Communists took over~ she did not think to highly of "white" people..but one thing she said cracked me up and enlightened me at the same time.We did the same job,she wondered how I could remember all of the patients names,she said "you guys all look alike"..funny.
posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 1, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Just an observation, but when a white person says exactly the same thing, it is racism. I'm sure I'll be told why, but are there no legitimate reasons a white person is allowed to dislike a person of color? (ie, their personalities clash, they have different values, etc)
posted by
sagefever
on Nov 1, 2007 at 10:33 AM
Thats was my point~ because ,for whatever reason , most folks feel the same about another race..I am an artistict type,so i've always " seen" the differences in faces of whatever color or shape.Naturally ,regardless of the race, some folks will not like each other.Not based on skin but other qualities. When statements begin with "all of" are questionable from the start~ I hope this makes some sense..bad night,worse morning..
posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 1, 2007 at 11:54 AM
There are a few persons of color, when asked this, will agree, that it is possible for a white person to dislike a person of color based on personality alone. But others will go out of their way to blame white people for the personality traits that make the person of color you dislike, unlikeable. For the most part, the most reasonable arguments fall on deaf ears. posted by
TangledUpInBlue
on Nov 2, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Um, it could have something to do with that whole slavery thing. You know, when the whites forced the blacks to work without pay and abused and misused them... then expected everything to be cool once the slaves were freed. Not that I agree with it, but the reason it's more acceptable for blacks to say things about whites than the other way around is because whites have a horrible, horrible history of mistreating blacks. I know you all know this... it's irrelevant or what?
posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 2, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Ahhhh..the ' double set of standards ' is alive and well....still
posted by
NancyII
on Nov 2, 2007 at 06:28 PM
Tangled..and how many slaves do you know? How long are you going to beat that tired old horse. It's done...It's time to move on. In fact, it's been time to move on for a very long time.
posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 2, 2007 at 06:41 PM
There once was a man who was drowning. Waves were swelling over his head and pulling him under. A boat pulled along side him and threw him a life preserver, but he was unable to grab it because he was holding on to a large rock. This rock was pulling him under and he was struggling with everything he had to keep his head above the water. The people yelled at him to drop the rock so he could grab onto the rope and they could pull him in and save his life, otherwise he would surely drown. The man yelled back between gulps of water "BUT IT"S MY ROCK!". posted by
NancyII
on Nov 2, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Perzackly. Good analogy Debbie.
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 2, 2007 at 07:21 PM
Gee white bob dillon lookin {edit}, you know so muchYou remind me of a {edit} Floating down the Rio Grande yellingRaise the drawbridge! I've got a {edit} !No one listens.....So you yell But I stole a truckload of viagra! Still, no one listens Roberto DillonoHaaaaaaa!(because you're still a {edit}) posted by
sagefever
on Nov 2, 2007 at 07:51 PM
http://www.iabolish.org/sla... Chico good evening it appears your in fine form ~ guess who my favorite musical genius is:hint BLT comes in third.Unfortunatly slavery still rears it's ugly head on ocasion.
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 2, 2007 at 08:08 PM
I did that on PDA How come I can't {edit} it? This guy makes me get the "quarrells" Willie Nelson did the unfinished fifth It wasn't Beethoven (that big a$$ dog) or Mozart (Ezzella, she live over on Gage) Who's thread is this........... anyway?
posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 2, 2007 at 08:13 PM
You're right sage, but this falls under the category of crime and is hardly the same thing. I know to the people held captive against their will it is, but slavery has been illegal for a couple of years now. BTW, I'm a long time Dylan fan, if that's who you're you're alluding to.
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 2, 2007 at 08:14 PM
Yeah, Ling.......... ask the "expert" blue boy dylan sucking on that cig....... Slavery is biggest right now in Somalia, Mali, other North East African countires, etc. Do you see a pattern there Bob Dylan (tangled up in blue silk tie downs of your own origin?)
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 2, 2007 at 08:23 PM
Timec The Dog's kid made a few bucks off his indescretion. I wouldn't have said the kinds of things Dog did, but thats because I don't use the "N" word just as I don't use others that I have witnessed used against others that cut to the quick. Sometimes the people throwing them out there don't realize how much they hurt. But they do. As surely as a whip on one's back or being waterboarded by your own side to teach you about the other side. Its harder to endure pain when you're not sure the people inflicting it are really on "your side" esse! I don't think the Dog is racist. He is just a "ghetto speak low life" and thats the environment he ops in. Like Imus he thought he could get away with it. He couldn't! Had he been black................. no problemo posted by
NancyII
on Nov 2, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Were you signed in when you tried to edit? If not, it won't offer that option. I'm so bright I had to email Jason and ask wha' hoppened when it happened to me.
posted by
TangledUpInBlue
on Nov 2, 2007 at 09:33 PM
Time to move on, huh? You remind me of those republicans who say, "It's not important WHY we're at war, we just need an exit strategy." It's not important WHY people are racist. Just think about it for a minute. BECAUSE they started in this country as slaves, the black culture has always been on the bottom rung of society and have struggled to catch up and bridge the gap. So no, it is not time to move on, because that culture is still struggling. Ancestors of slaves still live in ghettos and they're still discriminated against by the great grand kids of racist old bats. And what the F kind of comment is that? No, I don't know any slaves since it has been outlawed since before I was born... but that doesn't mean I have to ignore the fact that it happened. Next thing you're gonna say is that Native Americans don't deserve casinos, even though casinos totally justify decades of mass murder.
posted by
NancyII
on Nov 2, 2007 at 10:03 PM
No one said to ignore the slavery issue so don't try putting words in my hands. I said it happened, in case you have trouble reading, and I said it's time to move on. If you need that translated I'll be happy to. It means we can't change the past and all we can do is work on today and tomorrow. "So no, it is not time to move on, because that culture is still struggling. " Living in the past does no one any good and keeps people from trying to do better. Is that what you want? To wallow in the past and use it as an excuse to stay in the ghettos? Do you think the folks in my parents and grandparents generations weren't treated like trash because they were "Okies?" And they weren't even from Oklahome...just lumped in with all the rest. It sometimes takes generations to overcome our beginnings and you'll never help anyone by calling people racists and dividing people even further. My sister, brother and myself were the first high school graduates in our entire family...extended and other wise. My grandson was the first college graduate in our entire family and there were 3 of us enrolled at one time. The generational change didn't happen overnight but we did it. And with no help. The Blacks of today, especially in California, have never been exposed to slavery nor, most likely, anyone in their immediate family. The younger folks don't even have any living relatives who were slaves either so to use that as an excuse to stay in the ghetto is a copout. My dear, dear friend and mentor who was a recovering addict and, when I met him, an outstanding counselor, would have been appalled at someone telling him he was disadvantaged because Blacks were once slaves. (He passed away a couple of years ago.) I can hear him saying "I hold their feet to the fire..no rationalizing the behavior or minimizing their part in it." My first mentor in this field is also a Black man, a counselor, an ordained minister, and a dear friend .... I'd be interested to hear his take on this. I doubt he'd agree with you. Cripes, give it a rest. If you want to look for reasons why the Blacks in the ghetto are still in the ghetto try something different. Like no motivation or something rational. And trust me, I've seen plenty of whites and Mexicans who suffer from the same affliction. Not everything is defined by the color of ones skin. posted by
TangledUpInBlue
on Nov 2, 2007 at 10:46 PM
You are ignoring the importance of slavery and the impact it had on America and the world for that matter. I don't want to wallow in the past, but how do you work on today and tomorrow when many people still hold on to the same racist ideals of the past? We need to offer moral reparations so we can live in a world where there is no need for things like affirmative action and welfare. Slavery has had a huge impact on toady's society, and you have to be either naive or stupid not to see that. I'm sure those who live in ghettos would love a better excuse for why they live in poverty, but it seems pretty black and white to me. It is just a vicious cycle. The neighborhoods are poor and have crappy schools. The schools can't get any funding because of bad grades. Students can't get better grades because they don't have any resources. They can't get any resources because there is no money, so on and so on. So many turn to drugs, gangs, and crime to survive. Granted, many different races are afflicted by this vicious cycle.. just go to oildale or the east side to see that, but it is clearly more prominent with African Americans. And guess where that vicious cycle started?! I suppose by your standards, we should forget about the holocaust and ease up on the KKK. It was all in the past, eh? Think about it, why IS it ok for blacks to make jokes about whites, but not the other way around? Because I'd guess that if we could, if there was no ACLU or civil rights organizations, many americans would want to do it all over again. Tolerance my ass. What good is tolerance? We can tolerate other cultures, we can stomach them. THAT'S the copout. We need to accept them already. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 2, 2007 at 11:00 PM
tangled up in Blue I would call you tangled up in glue the glue being your particular ability to articulate the blatantly obvious We all understand the trite and hackneyed platitudes you are espousing Get something new............... K? You are sooooooooooo kewl smoking the cig and doing the "dylan" thingy you guys think waterboarding is torture we put our own guys through it me and oenghus and others even on here been through it why do we do that? So we can know our limits, and can go to the limit. you, bob dylan blue boy who needs to tie up with sf and crew, are an articulater of the blatantly obvious for no particular purpose other than to engage posted by
NancyII
on Nov 3, 2007 at 06:50 AM
Moral reparations to WHO? If you know any slaves or children of slaves I'll be happy to acknowledge them but to say we (who never owned slaves is this generation or any other) owe moral or even financial reparations is either naive or stupid. Nor do I owe any kind of reparations to any other race or nationality. Since you brought up the holocaust, do you see the Jews having protest marches or moaning about how hard they have it due to the holocaust? As for schools. Now you really have shown your lack of knowledge. What are called inner city, or low perforning schools get boatloads of money where schools in high income areas do not. My grandson and his wife are both teachers in those schools and could fill your head with information about schools in low income or depressed areas. If either had the time away from grading papers, doing lesson plans, driving to and from the outlying areas, field trips and all that sort of follderoll, they would get a kick out of your comments and set you straight on that one. I'll see what I can do to get one of them to take a minute and come enlighten you. If nothing else I'll see if I can get him to email me some facts for you. Or you could look them up yourself. I confess I know little about it but I don't come here spouting things I'm not sure of and the information above is what we (grandkids and I) were talking about just a couple of weeks ago. I didn't make it up. Just a wild guess at your referrance would be the bright orange 18 wheeler that (is it Stockdale?) has been spotted at a high school. That was NOT provided by the school district. They raise money through their booster clubs and donations which, by the way, are from affluent parents quite unlike the donations of food for a pot luck in my grandsons classes. (he says they are unbelievibly good) I Wonder why I ramble on like this. Must be the weather. Sure isn't because it will make a difference. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 3, 2007 at 09:17 AM
it doesn't just happen to blacks Timec don't you pay attention? posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 3, 2007 at 09:24 AM
No ~Chico~..she doesn't....she is stuck on this Black and White thing and will continue to be stuck for some time to come..some say time heals...we'll see...
posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 3, 2007 at 09:33 AM
That was the 'norm' at the time..wake up..welcome to the 21st century..
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Nov 3, 2007 at 10:03 AM
Anyone know where waterboarding was first used?In Spain during the Spanish Inquisition. It was called the toca and also tortura del agua. At least the awful spaniards that were torturing people didn't deny it. Some of you still deny that your country does it. posted by
OldBlue56
on Nov 3, 2007 at 10:51 AM
timec, your analogy of the black vs. white criminal is simplistic, however not true. There are a lot of factors that play into it, but I guarantee that if the crime is the same, and their records are the same, they will receive the same sentence. At least here in Kern County anyway. And your 2 lazy brothers don't have to worry about employment anyway, since they don't wish to work like most "men". Unless they choose to just sell a little drugs to keep themselves occupied.
posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 3, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Mac-daddy's???
posted by
sagefever
on Nov 3, 2007 at 11:26 AM
My things turn ugly fast here. No wonder this country is a mess~ things are not so simplistic as everybody seems to feel. Racism does still exist,as does class-ism, which is what Nancy refers to.Look at most of this discussion~ everybody blaming "the other" for the situation, mostly with attitude. We have a long way to go to be that shinning city on a hill that this country was meant to be. Two things will get us there IMHO : responsibility and compassion. Take liberally (in the take a lot sense of the word) and call me on Wednesday.
posted by
OldBlue56
on Nov 3, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Earlier there was some court info posted regarding the 2 cases you are referring to, but it's now gone. I wonder why? Are the 2 cases really alike timec? What were the circumstances of the crimes? Ages of the victims? Criminal record of the crooks? Same jurisdiction? What was the evidence against each? Private attorney or publc pretender? Those all matter, even though you would probably choose to ignore them so you can try and justify your uninformed opinion. And if I was intoxicated and hit and killed a family, I would expect my WHITE ass to end up in prison, regardless of my clean record. posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 3, 2007 at 02:45 PM
Regarding sex offenders, the court system takes a different view on sex offenders. One who molests someone living in his own home isn't viewed the same as someone who goes out and looks for a victim. One is a sexual predator the other isn't. The sexual preditor is considered the more dangerous of the two. Could this be the same or similar of which you're speaking? Maybe that is the difference in these unspeakable crimes. posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 3, 2007 at 03:06 PM
There was a time when a man got no time at all for raping a girl, so did these crimes happen in the same time frame, or were the decades apart. And believe it or not, the predator, non-predator issue makes a huge difference. As does one day in the age of the victim. The victim can be one day away from her fourteenth birthday and she's thirteen in the courts eyes. It's all apples and oranges when you are dealing with child molesting. Unless you have a case where everything is identical except for race, this is a really difficult example to use. posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 3, 2007 at 03:38 PM
There again, was it rape or Molesting which is defined as "annoying", but we all know is more than that. I didn't see the article so I'm really asking questions. My question is what are the differences, other than race and number of offenses that went into the sentencing of these two cases. Was there violence involved in one and not the other? I'm really asking questions. You keep pushing the idea that the ONLY difference was race. Was it? Maybe it was. Maybe the white guy was by far the greater monster and the black guy got the hammer. If that's the case, then sell it! posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 3, 2007 at 03:53 PM
Timec, you can get the same result with different approaches. Both may have been sorry bastards who did horrible things, but one may have used kindness while the other used force. It's not how you look at it, it's how the courts look at it. Do you understand that? The sentencing is different based on many criteria we don't see on the Megan's Law data base. posted by
OldBlue56
on Nov 3, 2007 at 08:23 PM
DG, we are both wasting our time trying to carry on a logical discussion with timec. Reading a little entry on a website does not even begin to tell the whole story. I think I will bow out of this discussion now and let her live in her "poor ol black me" world and watch Cops on Fox, and then a Carlos Mencia comedy special. He is one funny Mexican!!!
posted by
dgrealish
on Nov 3, 2007 at 08:32 PM
I gotta tell ya OldBlue, I stopped a long time ago, then on a blog I wasn't even posting on, she jumped me. I don't know if she was confused or what.
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 3, 2007 at 08:35 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeez Timec By your logic a stupid sumbitch like me or oenghus who went through waterboarding and other "attrocitities" would just be idiots................... You know what, ................ Sage and other Libs................ I suspect we weren't idiots................ I suspect we were bigger men than you are seeing now.......................... posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 3, 2007 at 08:55 PM
There are those of us who will endevavor to protect those of you who don't even know what we are doing for you It used to be if you were given an eleven bravo MOS you were cannon fodder We are now realizing now that we were...... they were ............... not hero's.................... but the people that spilled our blood to get done what got done.............. hoo rah! I cry for my brothers,,,.... Ling, Oenghus, My Davidido,,,,,,,,, Davids no longer here......... ask some on here ............. some like the vino tahany, dana, ........................ others ............... albina.............. hijo de tu many others....................... I love you all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and will always protect you as fellow Americanos esse
posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 4, 2007 at 07:22 AM
MOS..0311..basic Marine rifleman..one of the deadliest killing machines that's ever walked...too bad ~timec~ that you've never wore the colors that defended this country...cause once you've earned those colors and from that moment on-everyone is the same color--green...and you become part of a family like no other--each one your brother and sister for life...I don't think I can explain it any better,unless you've earned your colors and worn them with pride...
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 4, 2007 at 08:30 AM
Ling, my friend. You just said it all Couldn't have said it better esse! Marine Green. Vato Verde, Verdad? <saluting> carry on brother...................... posted by
chanddi
on Nov 4, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Timec, Blacks have no place in the war...... What is that supposed to mean?
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Nov 4, 2007 at 12:14 PM
timec you do not know us you do not want to you do not listen to what we are saying you will remain blissfully ignorant you will simmer in your own juices and become a "stew" therefrom posted by
Lingtaowoo
on Nov 4, 2007 at 12:18 PM
I'm real sorry you feel that way ~timec~...one of my BEST FRIENDS overseas was black... he died on the chopper ride back to the firebase...he was my brother in many ways...I really feel sorry for you..this MAN was bigger than most people I know today..and sorry to say-bigger than you....try watching 'We were soldiers' with Mel Gibson...I could not all the way through...It's time to put this behind us--but never forget...and I'm sure you won't...
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