I'll start it off.

A 45 Long Colt old style Ruger Vaquero. with Elk antler grips.

Second fave = old Winchester Trapper Model chambered in same round (45 LC)

Two guns, one round -- cowboy style............

 Squirt.....or super soaker.

 Unless you're burinin Bullseye or some other real fast burning powder though Murph, that little 2 inch bbl won't allow the gases to expand fully and completely burn the powder therefrom so you are losing the real effectiveness of the 357 vs.just  the 38 with that short bbl. Wouldn't even recommend Unique.

Just somethin ta keep in mind when reloadin fer that little hand cannon!

 And who says ya can't shoot (and reload) revolver fast, eh Murph?

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 What do ya guys think about the Ruger Mark III .22 as a practice pistola? I'm thinking about getting one before I move on to a more formidable handgun.

 It (any Ruger IMHO) is a great gun! The Hunter's model now (with the integral Weaver type base with rings incl) in SS and 7 1/2" bbl is really good. Walnut grips, its a really beautiful pistol for hunting, plinking, target, etc.

Rugers are hard to beat and one of their best has always been the Marks I, II, II, etc. semi-auto. Of course the first one I had was a single six with the interchangeable cyclinder so you can shoot 22 mags too. Had a coyote laughing at me once as I was about 75 yards or so off and was hittin all around him with the regular LR's. I got PO'd, pulled out the other cylinder, put it in with some mags (he was still laughing) and put one in his boiler room and he jumped up and I put another right behind it. He didn't laugh anymore! Its a fine little gun too! The new Hunter's Model in that has the integral weaver style base on it too and comes with Ruger's really good rings.

I might be wrong about the new Hunters Model in the semi-but I'm pretty sure it has the Weaver base built into bbl like the Single Six (new model). You cannot go wrong with the Mark III though!

Another good little 22 auto is the Barretta Neos. Looks like a pellet gun but they will quit laughing at you when you start shooting the eyes outa the target with it. And it is totally modular (IOW you can put on longer bbl, different grips, even a little carbine stock and really longer bbl. And it is accurate. I've put about 20 bricks of Wally World $9.50 per 550 ammo through it (either Federal or Remington Peters) and it has jammed like one time! Look at it. Its only about $250 for base model with 5 1/2" bbl! Ruger will run you around $400!

 Thanx Chico!

This is Mark III 22/45 model. It is less money than the one I was talking about but is designed on the egronomics of the 1911 which is not a bad thing any day! You can get one cheaper than the Hunter's model I was talking about but it is built a little cheaper too (of course). Its a good gun too. I'd really look at the Barretta Neos too though.......

This is Mark III Hunter Model I was talking about. It is a really fine gun but will run you around $400. Go to www.gunbroker.com and do search for ones up for bid. You will have to pay FFL DROS and sometimes handling fee but you can find FFL on the site that is close by too. CA will require you to take handgun test (written and physical handling) but FFL can give that to you in a few minutes when gun arrives. You can't go wrong with it!

This is one I was talking about with integral Weaver type base built in and extra mag cylinder. I don't have the Mark III Hunter model (above) so I was wrong about the weaver type base I guess. I have a Leupold Scope on mine and it helps me a lot to have a scope. Its a great gun too and I got a brand new one on gunbroker for right under $400 so it was a great deal! Very accurate and its really two guns! Love it! 

 Colt 45 (keep under my pillow) and anything Smith & Wesson!  Also..............Rottweiller works great!!

 You probably mean 1911 when you say Colt 45.

However, to a gun guy you could be talking a myriad of weapons so you should be specific if you mean Colt Model 1911 which can be any of a numer of  "series".

For example a Colt SAA (single action army) chambered in 45 LC is often regerred to as a Colt 45 as well as the venerable old 1911. Either one are a great choice!

(the Rott too)

 I like this one:

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 Thanks Chico!!! I'm a blonde so as long as the weapon is loaded and I know which end to point at the bad guy, I really don't pay much attention to the "name"!!!! That's also the reason for the Rottie! So I have time to look for the right end to point at the bad guy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Know what scares the living hell out of me?? A real ticked off WOMAN with a Gun and hear I bought the Wife a 32 semi auto Beretta.

I dated two women who had .38s; one kept hers on the nightstand (she was a reserve cop), and the other in her bookcase headboard. If you didn't perform well, they shot you full of holes (not really).

Barrett .50 calibers are cool, but I prefer one of those guns on the end of the garden hose for cooling off an irate woman.

 I have a few good guns but my all time favorite was a very old Benjamen air rifle with a brass pump.  .22 cal. and very accurate.  I think my brother ended up with it.  We wouldn't just shoot birds as kids we would shoot at different parts of their heads, that's how good that rifle was.  Sounds a little sadistic doesn't it. My mothers only shot with a weapon was with that pump and she knocked the head off of a woodpecker that was killing our pine tree and waking us up every morning.  That was in 1962-63.

I continue to enjoy my Bushmaster AR15.  Lots of fun for varmints / target practice and just a good utility gun.  Of course for the man who likes to accessorize it has plenty of options.  My next purchase is a .450 upper receiver for large game hunting.    That being said , I hope to one day be able to afford the Barrett .50.  The  Idea of  being able to  reach out and touch  your target  past a half mile  just adds some enjoyment to the  sport.

When it comes to pistols I don't have a real preference for brands but more for calibers.  .45 Auto's are my favorite just for the stopping power.  There are a lot of good pistols out there to choose from and you just have to find the right form and function.

 The Springfield M1A  7.62mm is my favorite rifle.  Ammo is easy to get, relatively cheap and it is one of the most accurate rifles I have ever owned. My favorite auto loader is my Beretta 9 mm with the 15 mag. Again the most accurate hand gun I have ever owned.  I agree about the Ruger 22 cal.  Ruger has never made an inferior gun.  They are all great shooters.

The ATS AT-85, the only clip-fed paintball marker in the world. Mine is modified with a full grip stock (custom mounted), a 40mm red-dot scope, and remote gas-line. It fires both semi- and fully-automatic, at 400-600 rounds per minute. It also sounds like a real M-16, which turns heads (or makes them duck) when I open fire.

 Any gun pointed at a gangster or pedophile.

 My favorite pistol for balance and accuracy was a 9mm Luger.  It now belongs to my son so that leavesme with a .22 replica 6 shooter and a 38 undercover policewomans special.  Bucks like a wild bronc that one does.

 Gonna p*** off some GOB's here (good ol boys) but I gotta say it.

I love guns, espcially western guns (six guns,.lever actions, coach guns,black powder,  etc.).. But when it comes to high magazine capacity assault type wepons (I know that is a whole nuther area as to just what is an  "assault" weapon), I just don't see the real need. For military or law enforcement? Rock on! Any thing they come up with -- they should have! Muscle or CNS disruptors, ray guns, lasers, tasers, whatever. Lethal or LTL, whatever....... whatever works......

But for us Billy Bobs, us guys who's pray is not packin and the most dangerous thing we're gonna face is the odd wounded wild hog, why do we need the semi-auto high mag cap 223's or 308's, etc. Even the Barrett's etc. (50 BMG's) that reach out a mile or so. or even the 338 Lapua's etc. that are just about as effective. But at least the 50 cals that are popular now are mostly bolt actions, not like the quad 50's we had in nam. Its just that I often wonder, where the hell ya gonna shoot em safely? When they reach out that far with that much KE, how can you be sure whats out there? Hell, I worry sometimes whats beyond a few hundred yards when I shoot and I rarely shoot a critter that far anyway. I have a hard enough time @ football field distance! But they don't bother me as much as the rock & roll high capacity autos.......

Anymore, about the only rapid fire weapons I have (rapid being defined by the definer) are pumps, lever actions, or mebbe a semi like a Browning, but most of mine are Ruger #1's, NEF's,  or Thomsons which are single shots. Cowboy shootin I'll use an old pump shotgun (if not double bbl'd coach gun or a lever action or revolver, but as far as multiple shot capability thats about it! I've never hunted with anyone using an AR or similar. Do those guys really hunt much? If not, what is the attraction? I don't get it.

If yer LE or Mil, OK. I get it. But if yer not? Someone please 'splain it to me lucy............

(seems ta me the more rapid fire high cap weaponry out there, the more idiots will get their mitts on em ta use in a school, Luby's, or elsewhere ta take out a bunch a peeps. Then the gun grabbers will whole hog come after those of use with our little low capacity sportin type weaponry and....there ya are...... open for rebuttal and a sh**storm now......... reckon I'll be called everything but a cowboy.[or American]......)

 Great choice Roy:

Lest anyone think my above comments are directed directly at this type gun, they're really not -- directly. I love the above gun, just like Roy, but I'll acede to the People's Republic's 10 round cap on this feller (even less mebbe, and allow its use for huntin, etc. The 308 is one a the best rounds ever and the gun......hell, my first rifle as a Springfield 03A3 in 30-06! Bolt action.......... accurate as heck.

But I took a position above, so I'll take the consequences, even from level headed types like Roy, kcsd, etc...... just seriously askin' a question.....

 Nothing says welcome to my galaxy quite like a phaser Random.....

Stunning isn't it?       Or is it set for stun, I can't tell.

 Anti, all you need to do is hack it with something like this: http://www.instructables.co...

Heh.

[disclaimer: Do not do this.  Ever.  You will die instantly if you're very, very lucky.]

 I used to shoot in college, but don't anymore.  Favorite gun I ever used was a SAR-1.  Easy to control, great at 50 yards.  I like Mossbergs in a shotgun and haven't used many pistols.  If I got a gun for home defense, it would definately be a Mossberg pump action.  Nothing says "Get Out" like the "shuck shuck" of a pump action shotgun.

 Chico I have a Ruger New Model Single Six inter chambable cylinders #260-80970 I bought it in late 80's

Stainless Steel    My fishing pistol and what ever pistol    What you think    I paid $ 200.00 for it in the 80's

 Tom, nothing better for home defense than a shotgun (IMO) with like about #4 or a little bigger but not 00 buck, and one thing about the 870 or other pumps is you have that last  "line to cross" warning for the thug, the sound of jackin a round in chamber. I have a double bbl'd coach gun for cowboy shootin and that'll get their attn when they see it aimed at their center mass but that sound is missing == and God knows I don't want to have to shoot somebody!

Ron, its worth around twice that now. I got the new hunter model for $400 on internet but they' run anywhere from $450 to $500 easy now. But its like two guns in one and the 22 mag is as effective a round for coyotes on down as the little 22 LR is cheap for everything up ta coyote! A great little gun.

I like the looks a blued steel, but I'm a throw it ina truck kinda guy and SS works good for me as you don't have ta worry about rust, etc.

Chico can I carry my pistol loaded and in site not concealed

 allred, carry it where?

 in my front seat without a permit OB

No allred, you cannot carry a loaded gun in your vehicle, or concealed, whether loaded or not, without a CCW permit. It's okay to take a pistol out to shoot or be repaired, but no ammo can be anywhere in the same area of the gun. That applies to the streets and public. Out on your own ranch is another thing.

 is it hard to get a ccw permit        years ago when i went to basket to deer hunt i would stop @ the lake isabella @ the Dam corner and buy supplies and had my pistol on my side has the law changed that much ?

and now if I was in the River fishing can I have my Pistol on my belt while fishing

 O/B I just E/M you OK

 Now days it is pretty difficult, in the city anyway. You have to justify why you need one, and then undergo a background check. But even then it is difficult. Not sure about the county, but I am sure it's similar.

I would hate to give you some wrong advice. Do an internet search on the calif penal code and read the various sections under 12025 and 12031. That should answer your questions.

 I went to the Sheriff Department on Norris Rd. I got two forms to fill out   but I gave them to my Daughter and Son in law they went to school and the shooting range 2nd admentment and got they permit

I don't know what they said their reason was but they got them

 I guess because they live in the county   Chalktaw rd. Above the River

 Probably so. There are various reasons one might need one. Store owner who carries cash. Woman who drives at night for her job, ect. But if you have a clean record and have a legit reason, you might as well apply for one. Just don't shoot one of those little section 8 thugs who spray paint the wall across from your house.

 Thanks Blue

You know Larry Forest    John  Deidrick    & nbsp;       Mike Sherril      Kirk Langston

 Just saw this Ron.

Absolutely everything OB said is correct. That is why I have lockable gun cases for rigs I carry in vehicles. Keeps everything together (except ammo which is in disparate location (but available to me if I'm out on rancho).

Bought a gun at Jewel Box (of Miranda Rights fame) in Phoenix, AZ one time and proprietor asked me if I wanted to wear it out on street (I thought he was kiddin....... back in late 60's) he wasn't...... I said no--it was an old single six with a bullet belt gunslinger type holster and all. I thought the guy was takin the Mickey out on me.

But CA, CCW allows you to carry concealed. Not aboard aircraft, in other states, etc. Technically it is good for County or origin only. I think down there permits are easier to get in County than City (County has around 4.000 which is more than any other County in CA BTW)  but as OB said you have to under go background check even if its just cursory 1029 (wants & warrants)  mebbe a 10-27 CA DL check, LAR,  etc.

I tell the kids (truck drivers, welders, etc.) keep yer coyote gun in behind seat rack and out here a Deputy probably won't give ya too much gas but be sure its not loaded and I would even remove bolt. At least have it open or if lever racked open, etc. Cops don't like surprises. This way they can see its unloaded without even looking. That's just my additional  "quirk" BTW. . IF stopped I would immediately tell officer or deputy  "I have a rifle behind seat, its unloaded, ammo is locked in glove box, not immediately available, etc." Be upfront.though with em....ALWAYS!

 Chico, there's not a soul in the world that doesn't know the sound of a shotgun chambering a round.  Also, I'd hate to be that guy who tried to shoot an intruder and shot a kid asleep in the house across the street.  In a regular house, your max range is gonna be 40 feet in a hallway, well inside the range of a shotgun.

Of course, out on the ranch you don't have the down range issues.

 Thanks Guys     Things have sure changed   what about me fishing on the Kern out of city limits?

 Tom I have my 12 gauge over and under for that reason    Not much carry but good at close range I wouldn/t want to hurt the dogs

 Tom, I got a mess of messkin kids in ranch hands house a few doors down. I always tell people ta be careful plinkin around corrals, etc. You never know where them kids are..........

#2 shot or so, you won't have ta worry too much in town about collateral damage. I don't think most people realize, though, just how devastating it can be to have ta actually shoot someone. Even cleanin up afterward is somethin to ponder. I always pray the bad guy will, as you allude, take note of the  "rackin round" sound and just scram!

And people, in CA, don't shoot em runnin away! They no onger pose a threat and its pretty hard ta splain how he was posing an immediate threat to you with his back to ya.....   ;=)

 However, if the crook just committed a violent, serious crime, which threatened death or serious bodily injury, (like murder, mayhem, ADW, carjacking, rape, among others), and was running away, and could pose a threat to society if they escape, fire away. There are case decisions that says that is okay, even in Ca. Just remember one thing...

Focus on the front site....and press....

 He wasn't running away, he was running for cover.

 Chico, sounds about right.  And yeah, always check down range, especially when there are kids within 2 miles.

 Damn Tom, make your own laser? You're my hero now, well....right after MacGyver anyway. ;)

Chico,   Bushmaster makes a .450 caliber upper receiver for the AR15.  The Upper receiver allows you to change out the upper portion of the gun with Barrel / Bolt and upper housing with just 2 pins.  So instead of a .223 plinker you now have a large bore rifle.  Hornandy is making the rounds which are 250gr. Flex Tip bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2200 fps and 2686 ft/lbs of energy.  They call it the "Thumper"

The .450 is big enough to go after big game at ranges of 200 Yards.

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