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Why Bush must be removed from office, by any lawful means.
As soon as possible. 24 comments from 6 users
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posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 2, 2006 at 08:33 AM
posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 10:31 AM
Very valid points. But there is a reality I think you are just glossing over.. The things of which you speak. Will over time. Kill our freedoms. They will harm religion. By anointing the chosen. Sponsoring Jesus Camps as though they are faith based charity.. Arming the anointed religions with tax dollars. They will destroy truth. Sending it to the wasteland. In the name of patriotism.. They will cull from society the idea of fairness. Labeling it.. Unnecessary.. Then Freedom.. With out notice. Just a gradual change. Just like the blue fades from a pair of old Levi’s. Is without fanfare.. Redefined: Extremely subjective, relativistic, ephemeral. I suppose you do not mean to avoid the talk of Iraq and the death. Only highlight other travesties. But please pray with me tonight. For the, 'Mothers Children', who will die in Iraq. Tomorrow.. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 10:50 AM
Not only will I pray for the mothers and children who will die, but I will pray for the fathers and bachelors and maidens, too.
posted by
dusty1215
on Oct 1, 2006 at 12:31 PM
My biggest bitch is about the erasing of our rights as put forth in the Constitution. I figured the general public would rise up against the war once it was realized that our current administration has no plan, and the only thing they seem to be good at is attacking the left side of the aisle who aren't afraid to offer their POV on what needs to be done and why. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 12:36 PM
. I cite the cases in my article. posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 12:42 PM
Dusty Barring a draft.. I don’t know that you can get them out to vote though.. Voting is a chore, until you can’t.. You don’t miss Freedom until it’s gone.. posted by
allRED
on Oct 1, 2006 at 01:29 PM
Ron. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 01:34 PM
. Don't worry. The next time Pox Christi shows up, we'll be on the same side again. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 01:38 PM
. You're a Pentecostal, right? Surely you're aware that Pentecostals are regarded by certain other branches of Christianity to be aberrant at best; at worst, heretics. . Would you, as a Pentecostal, really feel safe in a nation where the government could officially declare religious "truths," force you to follow them, or punish you if you didn't? . If you get this kind of government, my friend, Pentecostals are high on the list to be persecuted. Trust me. posted by
allRED
on Oct 1, 2006 at 02:00 PM
Ron. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 02:17 PM
. If you keep the church a million miles from the state, then you can be assured that you will continue to be free to tell me, and everyone else, the truth. But if you support politics that eliminate the separation of church and state, then false religions can take over the State and use the State to preach falsehood and suppress the truth. . But with my philosophy, you will always be free to preach the truth. . I held the exact same political philosophy when I was a Christian -- because I was a Christian. I know, as did the Founding Fathers, what tends to happen when man sets himself up as the substitute for God. And that's what people who try to mix God and government, do: put themselves on God's throne. posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 02:31 PM
During the assault, conservatives are master designers. They perform campaign wonders. But in the end. They show their colors. A mish mash of ideals and beliefs. Totally exclusive of the other.. Selfishness is the rule.. There are those extremist that make headlines. No different than any other time in history. Everyone of them have a different religion. Even the agnostics.. posted by
allRED
on Oct 1, 2006 at 02:39 PM
Ron. posted by
allRED
on Oct 1, 2006 at 03:05 PM
As a Individual do you have the right to say there is not God? Of course you do, but, if you are God, I wonder what you will say when you stand before Him? But yes you have that right, that free will, that free choice. Yes you have rights in the law and in Gods law, But dont break Gods law with your rights. posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 03:23 PM
Let’s both agree that I am speaking as one who believes in GOD. Let’s both agree that I have the individual right to determine which religion if any, is righteous. Whether I am right or wrong in my thinking. Your speaking to shouting, ‘fire’. Has no meaning in the discussion of individual rights.. It has very little to do with the right to free speech.. Except that they both pass breath over the lips.. It is the purpose for which you shout, not the right to shout, that is important. Does there have to be a fire for it to be legal to shout fire. Of course not. Just an emergency.. GOD’s will. Is that we have free will. And that we not be judgmental.. posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 07:36 PM
Let me see if I understand your argument. Anything left of the TOP, where your morality resides. Is, ’Atheist clown libs who go ape-crap’. Laws that you don’t agree with, are passed by a activist congress. Lawyers that prosecute you, are activist prosecutors. Judges that rule against you, are activist Judges. Prayer rugs are out. Unless they are accompanied by a St Johns version of the Bible.. Mocus1, I don’t mean to offend. But your religion doesn’t inspire me with hope.. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 1, 2006 at 07:57 PM
. It's fun to yank his chain once in a while, but if you're expecting a rational discussion, you'll never get one. posted by
tkozy
on Oct 1, 2006 at 08:48 PM
posted by
ki6amd
on Oct 2, 2006 at 03:55 AM
I've given up trying to respond, I've replied 3 times each time it has not posted (website issues). I'll just say get rid of the yes men in congress (that doesn't mean all republicans). I mean quit voting for partisan politians. The president doesn't act alone, it's congress and senate that pass his bills. Example of non partisan politians: California state senator Dean Florez See Senator Florez's history recently when he was the only democrat to vote against a bill that would force sexual prefence into history books when it is irrelevent. Everyone was divided on party lines except him. I admire a man who has common sense and still wants to be involved in politics. (Was that an Oxymoron?) posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 2, 2006 at 07:49 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 2, 2006 at 08:08 AM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 2, 2006 at 08:21 AM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Oct 2, 2006 at 08:49 AM
Very true, Random. . The unreported fact is that religion was also added to this bill's list of protections. posted by
ki6amd
on Oct 2, 2006 at 12:29 PM
As for the issue at hand... SB 1437, I stand firmly on my earlier statement, "...force sexual prefence into history books when it is irrelevent." What you fail to understand is that the word "adversely" shouldn't be in the document at all. You may fight me on this issue, but this is similar to the whole affirmative action arguement. I would explain further but I'm in a hurry.
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