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Infowar - > Crashing through the phony left-right paradigm -> What Actually Happened in the Iranian Presidential Election?
What Actually Happened in the Iranian Presidential Election?

A Hard Look at the Numbers

Posted in these Groups: News, Politics
Topics: Iran, election, New World Order, TORTURE, war, Iraq, Middle East, 9/11, control, propaganda, PR, Public Relations, News, media, Politics, conspiracy, Obama, bush, republican, democrat
posted by Infowar on Monday, June 22, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I love how this article lists absolutely no sources to back up it's claims.


posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM

I love how so many of you lack the ability to use 'Google'. 

posted by catpaw on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Questions are being raised that something like 50 cities counted more ballots than voters, making a difference of about 3 million votes. Wouldn't surprise me, but I haven't heard any factual basis.

posted by ProgressivePete2 on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:35 AM

So infowar, are you expecting readers to do their own research on your post? 

Are you just being lazy or what?

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Info - google doesn't amount to anything if you don't have the capacity to actually do your own research.

 

Catpaw - it's confirmed by Iranian State TV that there were 50 cities that had more votes than elligible.  Most are agreeing that they're trying to save face and make it appear that they're actually "looking into the problem."

 

Relying on the many sources I've seen, such as this one:

andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/200 9/06/rafsanjanis-40-ctd.html

I'd say that infowar's post doesn't come close to being reliable.  Especially after the post I made yesterday about this from Al Arabiya.. I'd say there's something to it, because it checks out with the reports of many reliable Iranians I've been following on Twitter.

posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:37 AM

FSG what are you? Some sort of Bako blog security "fact" checker? Most of the articles I post contain tons of sources.

Believe or not, some folks are able to use a search engine for vetting information.

 

 

posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:44 AM


I'd say there's something to it, because it checks out with the reports of many reliable Iranians I've been following on Twitter.

Check out the blog I posted titled: Iranian Unrest: Evidence Of Western Intelligence Meddling

 

 

Info - google doesn't amount to anything if you don't have the capacity to actually do your own research.

 

Unlike you FSG I have faith in humanity. I think there are plenty of folks on Bakersfield.com with the capacity to use the ever so complicated Google. You really need to get off your high horse FSG. You are not as informed as you think.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Info - not everything you read on the internet is factual.  I clicked on the link you provided, and it lists no sources to back up it's claims.  I'm not in the mood to fact check everything in the article - and I shouldn't have to.

 

Based upon my knowledge (and I'm pretty well versed on Iranian history and politics.. not an expert by any means, but compared to the average American, I know my stuff), I'd say that this article you posted is highly speculatory based upon little verifiable evidence.  The final 4 paragraphs are ok.

posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

So infowar, are you expecting readers to do their own research on your post? 

Are you just being lazy or what?

 

What? Is that to much to ask?

 

Me lazy?

I post more blogs than all of you guys combined.

I also work full time 

I have many other responsibilities. .

I don't live in my mothers basement as some of you stated in past comments. : ) 

I am not only blogging on numerous websites.....

I am using a number of methods to disseminate information.

 

I wish I could be lazy...

 

I would rather be out fishing.

 

I just love true freedom. I am sick & tired of the elites stepping all over humanity.

 

 

 

posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:00 PM

 Info - not everything you read on the internet is factual.

No sh#t...thanks for the "news flash"

 

I'm not in the mood to fact check everything in the article - and I shouldn't have to.

HA HA that was just funny.

Based upon my knowledge (and I'm pretty well versed on Iranian history and politics.. not an expert by any means, but compared to the average American,

So you are the final word on Bakersfield.com? Well unless it's someone who spews rhetoric you agree with..right?

 

 

posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Read the article or don't. Some will read it & check out the info for themselves.

 

 

I am out of here.

Have fun circle jerking.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM

1) The website this article is posted on is slanted towards conspiracy theories

2) Who is the author?  I can't find anything in regards to a bio on the writer.  Who is he? How do we know he's a reliable resource? 

3) There is plenty of analysis regarding the election results - and experts on Iran believe that the election was rigged.  I'll even go so far as to give you a mathematical hypothesis (prepared by a verifiable mathemetician) regarding why the election was fraudulent:

images.derstandard.at/2009/06/19/0906.2789v1.pdf

4) Regardless of what I just posted, and everything else you can currently look at, the reality is that we cannot be certain what happened.  However, I'll wager that my educated guess is closer to accurate than not.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM

  You really need to get off your high horse FSG. You are not as informed as you think.

Is that the only rebuttal you can ever give me?  You continue to post drivel with no real thought - you rarely provide your own insights or analysis.  You are a copy and paste monkey who seems to believe that there's always something hidden behind the lines.  How very original of you.  I don't think I've ever seen you create a blog post that didn't have a link in it.

I'm a realist - I rely on credibility, and keep my feet planted firmly on the ground, instead of letting my head wander into the clouds. 

 

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:16 PM
posted by Infowar on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM

If you say so FSG. 

 

Good for you..

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM

care to address the issues of credibility?  Come on.. you should be willing to back up your sources.

 

BTW.. that puppy is cute.

posted by sagefever on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Thanks for posting those links  FGS.

Infowar has the absolute arrogance of the right.  As in "I'm right"....he only wants agreement,not rationality.

Cute puppy

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 22, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Here's an interesting interview done prior to the election between a reporter and some extremely rural voters, which shows that while Ahmadenijad's stronghold was definitely not in the cities, his popularity had been suffering:

www.theworld.org/

More "rural" voters who were unhappy with Ahmadenijad (prior to Mousavi being the main opposition)

www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,584526, 00.html

 

 

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