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MoneyTalks - > Money Talks -> How much do YOU earn?
How much do YOU earn?

It's that time of year when people across the country reveal a very important number — just how much they make annually.

And that information is shared in a Parade cover story. You can check out Parade's online coverage here.

See our local version here.

Are you surprised by the salaries? Saddened? Shocked?

Want to share what you do and what you make? This is the place!

— Christine Peterson

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Topics: bakersfield, parade, jobs, what people make, pay, employment
posted by MoneyTalks on Saturday, April 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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posted by OldBlue56 on Apr 12, 2008 at 03:11 PM

 It's none of anyone else's business what I earn.

posted by AudreyB on Apr 12, 2008 at 03:27 PM

 Not as much as I want but all I  need and more than I'm worth.

posted by woofwoof on Apr 12, 2008 at 04:27 PM

 Geez, the CEO of KMC makes a whoppin' amount.

posted by Roysan on Apr 12, 2008 at 04:55 PM

 66 grand is pretty good for a kindergarden teacher who doesn't even work all year long.  I thought they were all underpaid.

posted by maybelline on Apr 12, 2008 at 05:32 PM

 PRICELESS!

posted by NancyII on Apr 12, 2008 at 05:45 PM

 I couldn't find the kindergarten teacher.  All I found were a gazillion photos to go through.  Where was the K-teacher who made 66K?

posted by woofwoof on Apr 12, 2008 at 05:47 PM

 ...under the "local version" nanc.

posted by MoneyTalks on Apr 12, 2008 at 05:51 PM

Here's the link to the local version again if you missed it.

Just click here.

— Christine Peterson

posted by NancyII on Apr 12, 2008 at 05:53 PM

 Thanks Woof, I missed it.  Methinks someone is fibbing unless it's the private sector  I can't believe that a kindergartin teacher makes more that an asst. college professor.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Apr 12, 2008 at 06:12 PM
I agree with OB One of Two things happens when salaries are shared, both bad IMO: 1) The person makes more than you thought and you become envious; or, 2) They make less and you subconciously lose respect for them.... While no one will readily admit to these emotions they are very real indeed....... Be happy with what you make or endeavor to make more....to just be envious of others' level of remuneration is just counterproductive and a waste of time!
posted by anglo1 on Apr 12, 2008 at 06:23 PM

 Right on the money chico. When I had up to 20 employees one of my rules was salaries were not to be discussed between employees.  I don't know if I could have enforced it or not legally but if someone came to me complaining that someone else was making more than them I knew who had broken the rule.  Some people are just better employees and do things on their own and some can see the difference. Two people doing the same job shouldn't always be paid the same. IMO  Now thta I'm retired I think all FF and Cops are over paid. Joking, really.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Apr 12, 2008 at 07:56 PM

 Anglo: The last big corp I worked for enforced the no sharing of salaries rule religiously. That was awhile back though.
Some of us got bonuses and you would get calls at home from coworkers asking if you got one. I always kept it o myself.

Just told them it was my business. If I lost a friend over it I figured they weren't a good one anyway.
 

I always figured the ones asking probably didn't get one so they were wondering if anyone else did so they could do one of the two things above -- etther hate you for it or think less of you. To me that was the type that didn't get them, but knew enough to know that some did. I think most of us that got them just kept our mouths shut and enjoyed the extra dinero around Xmas. (reminds me of Nat Lampoon Christmas Movie--haha!
 

I suppose there might have been a few that got the bonuses that fell into the trap of wonderin if others ot them too, but by and large those that got them just kept shut about it. Same ethic I apply to all the geniuses who can make ya rich by doin seminars and sellin ya tapes and books so's you can do it too. Hell, if had a gold mine, I'd just mine it and keep mouth shut (another fave flick--Treasure of Sierra Madre--haha! Obviously they don't make their real money doin what they're teachin about -- just in the teachin.......

I was called a company man. I know that was said by some in a perjorative way, but I didn't care. I have always been loyal. To a fault sometimes........... its in me DNA I guess   ;-)

posted by linfestyp on Apr 12, 2008 at 11:10 PM

 Quote:  I can't believe that a kindergartin teacher makes more that an asst. college professor.

Believe it, Nancy.  It says she is in her 50's, which would be just about right.  .  Here is the teacher's salary schedule for the Bakersfield City School District (I don't know where this teacher works, though).

http://static.bcsd.com/gems...

 

posted by NancyII on Apr 12, 2008 at 11:27 PM

 It's illegal to tell employees they cannot discuss salaries.  http://www.vault.com/nr/new...

Lin..Going by that chart, two teachers of the same age with equal experience could still receive different pay depending on degrees.  I know that they get paid more for higher degrees.  The county works the same way.  I guess I hadn't thought about it in that way.  Thanks.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Apr 12, 2008 at 11:40 PM

 its illegal to tell employees a lot of things nowdays

posted by soltini on Apr 13, 2008 at 12:12 AM

 No Teacher, yet alone a Kindergarten teacher should make 66k a year. Teachers deserve about 30-35k .


posted by NancyII on Apr 13, 2008 at 06:41 AM

 I'll agree that a kindergarten teacher at that range is overpaid (in my opinion) as jobs of any kind should be compensated for by the amount of education and qualifications needed to perforn ones duties.  As education becomes more intense for children more skills are needed and teachers should be paid accordingly.  I don't know what kindergarten teaches these days as I've been out of that market for eons but I doubt it compares to calculus and government etc. in the amount of knowledge a teacher needs to have.  (I can hear the howls already).

Soltini, one thing I do know is that paying them 30-35 is ridiculous.  With everything that's taken out of thier checks that breaks down to a take home of about 1800-1900 per month for a single person who needs a bachelors and a credential program at the very least.

As lin pointed out above, that teacher is making that salary most likely after many years in education.  The step raises are given yearly and more is earned with more education.  New teachers don't start out at that level.  They're also paid extra for activities like after school programs and special programs.  I'm no expert by any means but the two teachers in my family talk about that sort of thing.  Neither are kindergarten teachers by the way.

We have a couple of teachers who post on here...maybe they'll chime in.

posted by ImJustSayin on Apr 13, 2008 at 09:48 AM

 Paul Hensler, 58, chief executive officer, Kern Medical Center, Bakersfield. $324,375

What?  Is this not the hospital ALWAYS operating in the red? 

Supervisors to tackle KMC billing problems again (From todays Paper)

Why does he make more than the city manager or the District Attorney?  This dude is WAY overpaid.  I understand that his work is hard...but give me a break.  It is a county hospital, and to be honest with you, he has done a piss poor job of running it.  Imagine what we are going to be paying out in retirement benefits when he is gone.  At the rate we're going, the county will be too broke to pay any retirement benefits.  Pay this man a decent salary...half of what he get's is MORE than fair. 

How much money can we pay out in retirement benefits for these people with hefty salarys and early retirement options and continue to operate.

I'm just sayin

posted by adampayne on Apr 13, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Always fascinating to see the judgements on salary. Because so few people ever take the time to learn many of the criteria, or the the continuing education requirements for instruction in our public schools, we get to read ignorance in action on these posts. An entry level salary for someone beginning their career would make approximately $30k to $35k. Someone in their 50s who has added education course credit over many years, and maybe has an advanced degree in tow certainly has merited the salary figure noted.   


Of course, the real stories in Parade that didn't make it to the blogosphere here concerned the shrinking corporate tax accountability in America, the negative personal savings that continues year after year, student debt and  the fact that more and more former retiree aged people are having to work  right up until the end to survive.  It's nice to read 61% of US corporations paid no taxes for year 2004 according to the GAO. But the individual citizen now is on the hook for over $1.16 trillion.

It is interesting to see the highest profile public servants salaries profiled here, but no high profile executive compensation from the heads Aera, Berry Petroleum, Chevron, Bolthouse etc..  I guess we know who is tied to the whipping post around these parts.   

posted by djmont on Apr 13, 2008 at 04:13 PM

 If the posters think kindergarten teachers are overpaid, they should consider going in to that field.A job is worth what a worker can get the market to pay them.


posted by NancyII on Apr 13, 2008 at 04:20 PM

 Sorry dj, as much as I love my grandkids, you couldn't pay me enough to be locked in with a room full of kindergarteners day after day.  Remember the teacher who used duct tape?  That would be me.  :-)

I did my bit in a co-op day care years ago in Tehachapi and when the one little boy told me "eff you" not only once, but twice, I knew it wasn't for me.  (of course he only repeated it because after my jaw dropped and I could gain control of it again I asked "WHAT did you say", and he told me.)

posted by TomW on Apr 13, 2008 at 04:37 PM

 Nancy, me too.  If teachers were overpaid, we wouldn't have teacher shortages, plain and simple.  What other job requires a degree plus a credential plus ongoing education all to deal with crap from kids, parents, administrators and the general public and then tops out after a lifetime of service at 66,000/year?

posted by truthtalker on Apr 13, 2008 at 08:39 PM

 It is true that the Kindergarten teacher earns that much.  It is also true that she is president of the CTA for Panama-Buena-Vista Union School District, and behind all the picketing for higher wages and the obnoxious billboards!!!

posted by stickbugs on Apr 13, 2008 at 09:35 PM

Panama is half-day Kindergarten (I think about 3 1/2 - 4 hours).   My understanding is that one teacher teaches the morning class and then helps the afternoon teacher, and vice versa.   Can anyone confirm this?  $66k a year would seem excessive if they are acting as an assistant half the day.

Truthtalker -- I can't believe the Panama Teacher Union billboard located on Old River and Hageman in the Rosedale School District, where they just lost something like 30 teachers next year.  The CTA  just doesn't get it do they?

posted by NancyII on Apr 13, 2008 at 09:50 PM

 You know Tom, people are quick to criticize teachers but I don't see them teaching, or even volunteering as teachers aides.  I'll betcha a dollar to a doughnut no more than 2 active bloggers work in schools and have the inside track.  (Audrey excepted cause she just retired from a school district.)

posted by witbee on Apr 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM

I would never teach kindergarten. The one-on-one personal attention required for each student is more than I could give. The lessons you have to teach are so slow and monotonous I would go crazy. My hat is off to anyone that can stay in that line of work. She definitely earns her money.

Myself, I teach high school. While this ladies base salary is slightly higher than mine, Mine is much higher when you facto in all the extra work I do. I teach an extra class period, saturday workshops and 5 weeks of summer school. I never complain about my salary (which is guaranteed to rise every year according to a set schedule). However, I have worked my position. I have a BS, an MS, a credential and am working on a MA and another credential. I have been in college for 15 years and have a lot of debt because of it.

Tonight, I will leave Delano at 3:30pm, then return to Delano at 6:30pm to hand out an academic award to a deserving student, then head home to lesson plan for the week (and hopefully my kids will still be awake). Tomorrow I will leave for work at 6am and not return until 4pm so I can tutor my students after school. I spend about 50 hours a week at work and 6-10 hours a week working at home on lessons/grading. At least 1 saturday a month I have a workshop/class/activity to attend although this month it is every saturday.

So I think I earn my salary.

posted by Ink on Apr 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM

 To those who believe the teacher is overpaid -

I'm curious, what do people think someone with a masters degree should be paid near the end of his or her career?

posted by anglo1 on Apr 15, 2008 at 01:33 PM

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Takes a lot of duct tape to do it right Nancy.

posted by NancyII on Apr 15, 2008 at 01:35 PM

 hehehe...I would buy the heavy duty industrial size rolls.  :-)

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