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Ppopgun - > Culture warrior -> North Dakota House bans abortion
North Dakota House bans abortion

Roe, Roe, Roe, your boat ... gently down the stream ... merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily ... LIFE is no more a dream.

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posted by Ppopgun on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 at 04:41 PM
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posted by Wayfarer on Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50 PM

Thank God!  We have let the holocaust of innocent children go on long enough. 

posted by Ppopgun on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Yep, WF, I particularly liked how the lawmakers decided that we can now answer the question of when life begins that the justices said must be answered before Roe v. Wade can be challenged. One only needs to turn to the scientists, with the vast majority of them saying life begins at conception and deeming anyone who thinks otherwise, like Pelosi, as kooks.


posted by tkozy on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Way,

The Bill still has to go to the N.D. Senate. It still has to get the Governor signature. And it still has to meet the courts approval.

This type of bill has always been overturned by the courts. S. Dakota the most recent.

All court decisions have said that the health of the mother must be considered in anti abortion bills. This does not. So it does not meet the threshold of Roe V. Wade. In the first place.

I am intimately aware of the state of N. Dakota. It isn't as conservative as some might think. It in fact leads the nation in political corruption. Who would have thought.

I don't think it will pass the smell test with the public.

But eh it also leads the nation in longevity.  Maybe the old farts will get it through the senate. I wouldn't bet my stimulus check on it.

Too bad we can't stop wasting resources on a impossible cause. And try to improve on reality.

State lines will never prevent abortions.

Education, compassion, a living wage, more resources directed at maintaining family unity, are all things that will help.

Bills like the one you posted only serve to create a rift between people of different mindsets.

 

posted by TomW on Feb 19, 2009 at 01:07 AM

I'd love to see the text of this bill.


posted by TomW on Feb 19, 2009 at 01:21 AM

Well, here's a bit:  The bill declares that "any organism with the genome of homo sapiens" is a person protected by rights granted by the North Dakota Constitution and state laws.  (http://www.foxnews.com/poli...

So now we get to argue over the definition of "organism".  Wonderful.

posted by montfred on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:02 AM

Downnload the Bill PDF file

 98312.0200

      Sixty-first
      Legislative Assembly        ;             HOUSE BILL NO. 1572
      of North Dakota

      Introduced by

        & nbsp; Representative Ruby

 1    A BILL for an Act to provide for equality and rights to all human beings at every stage of

 2    biological development; to create and enact two new sections to chapter 12.1-17, relating to the

 3    crimes of dismemberment and torture; to amend and reenact subsection 3 of section

 4    12.1-20-03, section 12.1-20-11, subsection 2 of section 12.1-20-17, and section 12.1-27.2-04.1

 5    of the North Dakota Century Code, relating to penalties for crimes against born alive children; to

 6    provide legislative intent; and to provide a penalty.

 7    BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF NORTH DAKOTA:

 8              SECTION 1.      Equality and rights guaranteed to all human beings.

 9              1.    For purposes of this Act:

 10        ;            a.   "Born", "birth", "partially born", "born alive", and any derivation thereof, apply

 11        ;                 to any child located inside a uterus, which is pulled out of the mother; or who

 12        ;                 has ever had any part of its body, including the head, pulled out of the uterus,

 13        ;                 such as during natural birth, artificial birth, or abortion.

 14        ;            b.   "Human being" means any organism, including the single-cell human embryo,

 15        ;                 irrespective of the method of reproduction, who possesses a genome specific

 16        ;                 for and consistent with an individual member of the human species.

 17        ;            c.   "Human embryo" means all human beings from the beginning of the

 18        ;                 embryonic period of their biological development through eight weeks,

 19        ;                 irrespective of age, health, function, physical dependency, or method of

 20        ;                 reproduction, whether in vivo or in vitro.

 21        ;            d.   "Human fetus" means all human beings from the beginning of the fetal period

 22        ;                 of their biological development, which begins at nine weeks gestation hrough

 23        ;                 birth, irrespective of age, health, function, physical dependency, or method of

 24        ;                 reproduction, whether in vivo or in vitro.

posted by randomfactor on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:04 AM

"Human being" means any organism, 

Every skin cell is now a human being?   Every cancer cell?

posted by TomW on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:36 AM

Thanks for the link Montfred.  Lots of possibilities with that law including the ramifications for citizenship.  I'd also like to see how this impacts fertility clinics.


posted by montfred on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:56 AM

Your welcome Tom.  Interesting definitions of human being, embryo, and fetus.

 

posted by randomfactor on Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Stem cell research, too.  Labs which grow replacement skin from foreskins.  Molar pregnancies.  Ectopic pregnancies.

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