To be sure, Barry is trying to cover something up. Like maybe he's a robot or a space alien. What else could it be?

if he had a birth certificate, it would have been posted already, and so many lawsuits would cease to exist....

Why~ just let them make their way to the courts and be dismissed. Much more fun that way.

Obama did make public a copy of his birth certificate. I am not sure what a "vault" copy of a birth cert is. If, as some claim, he is not a natural born American, then would it be a simple matter to find his naturalization papers?

That was faked~ don't you know? Nothing will satisfy a paranoid mind. I think your right about the robot deal ;-)

Well, if a soldier is asking the question, then by god I'm going to take it a little more serious. 

Once again, get a life.  Not an issue. 

Problem is Obama likely was never naturalized. He was just sent off from Indonesia to live with Grandma "Toots" in Hawaii when his ma's second marriage got rocky. The birth certification that he had posted on his website, assuming it's not forged, has sparse details and only goes to show that a birth took place. The "vault" birth certificate is a long form that includes the hospital where the birth took place and even, gasp, a box showing the foreign country where the birth took place. See, back then Hawaii allowed for residents to register births that took place overseas with the state of Hawaii.

Anyone up for a National Grand Jury to investigate this whole rotten affair?

http://somehavehats.typepad...

By the way, that link took me to a site that has all the latest info about the Obama eligibility issue called the Right Side of Life. I see Leo Donofrio, one of those who had his lawsuit dismissed, has something to say about the reports involving the soldier: http://www.therightsideofli...

The following birth certificate was produced with the sole purpose of concealing the fact that Obama and Bush are siameze twins, seprated 2 days after birth. With a knife, In the library. By Mrs. Plum.

Spare us that junk. We want this one:

Pax,

Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State

Health Department Receives Multiple Requests For Copies

http://www.kitv.com/politic...

Heaven forbid I should even want to run for president, since Kern County likewise wants to hang on to my original birth certificate and only issue a certified copy. Funny thing, a government wanting to hold onto the originals of government paperwork. Fancy that.

The soldier is a publicity seeker. And that's the nicest thing I can say about his motivations.

I think Obama's refusal to release anything but the birth certificate he has released is a big "middle finger" to folks like Ppopgun and this soldier.

And a very well-deserved one, too.

If someone told you that you couldn't keep your job unless you produced a copy of your birth certificate, what would you do?

Provide it, as in #1.  Obama did.  End of story.   The middle finger to anything else.

But I'm glad to see the rat-wing's fascination with bright shiny objects continues.  Watch the birth certificate, jjames.  Your eyelids are getting heavy.  When you wake up, you'll vote a straight Democratic ticket...

evidently...the one(s) he presented werent the real deal, otherwise,  so many lawsuits wouldnt be ongoing or dismissed on "other" grounds

sniff sniff......smell that???  heaaj

Apparently they *WERE* the real deal; he was elected and sworn in.  Looks somewhat like the one I presented in lieu of a US passport a few years ago.

The reason there are ongoing lawsuits is that the country is full of right-wing nutcases.

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What he produced is not good enough for me,

Hence, the middle finger. 

What cracks me up is this: If this goose chase had any thing to it at all,do you not think the RNC would have been all over it? How about the Clintons? The DNC?

But play among yourselves by all means.

yeah, thats why people in his own poltical power are suing too....

careful RF...most of your work deals with getting TBC to "right wing nutcases"  how would the subscribers feel if they truly knew how you felt about them???

yeah, thats why people in his own poltical power are suing too....

I guess I missed that.  There's a second, co-equal President who's suing Obama? 

Boy, Shrub really *DID* make some changes to the Constitution.

Don't pretend the left-wing nutcases wouldn't be going on and on about the validity of a POTUS born in Panama, if McCain had won. 

Don't be less coherent than your full potential.   Nobody seriously advanced that argument except to show how silly the birth-cert "reasoning" is.

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He hasn't shown any real proof yet.

Sure he has.  All he has to.  Hence the middle finger.  He's got serious things to do, and *NONE* of them involves catering to unhinged right-wingers.  Well, most of them don't.  He's still got to deal with Boehner and those clowns.

Pax/Learn

Keyes has been well paid to file these frivolous lawsuits.  Everyone of his and all others have been dismissed as frivolous. (without standing).

Get over it. The state will not release the original.

For good reason.

If they were to release the original. It would be exposed to possible  falsification.  The state of  California nor the County of Kern will release the originals.

But the Hawaiian  Governor and  States health Director have vouched for the authenticity of the certified copy that Obama released.

Your time would be better spent investigating the rumor the the real Oboma died in Sept. and was replaced by a method actor from Oildale..  It is rumored this actor belonged to the Church of the interracial Marriage. Oildale Parish.

Oh, I'm pretty sure Keyes would've done it for nothing.  He's that unhinged.

Middle fingers don't count  as proof, either.

It's working pretty well against your argument so far.  I don't think he needs to worry. 

We'll see after his second term. 

JJ

But the Hawaiian  Governor and  States health Director have vouched for the authenticity of the certified copy that Obama released.

Your time would be better spent investigating the rumor the the real Oboma died in Sept. and was replaced by a method actor from Oildale..  It is rumored this actor belonged to the Church of the interracial Marriage. Oildale Parish.

Oh, for pete's sake. Do some of these people have nothing better to do? Regardless of where he was born, one of his parents (his mother) is/was an American citizen. (She's deceased.) According to the state department, it's irrelevant where he was born--Obama is an American citizen by birth right because his mother was one, unless it was specifically revoked by his parents. Nobody's ever asserted that or tried to prove it.

Same thing would have applied to McCain.

Barack Obama is an American citizen. He's also President. Drop it and move on to something of importance. The next guy or gal who brings this up should be forced to prove to the rest of us that they're American citizens by the same standards they're holding Obama to....

For the final word on the manner, I suggest you check out factcheck.org: http://www.factcheck.org/el...

Oh, for pete's sake. Do some of these people have nothing better to do?

Yup.  At least it keeps them from poking metal objects into electric outlets.

Oh, boy, not only do we have a second soldier stepping up to challenge Obama's eligibility, but we also have a retired general major and major consenting to be plaintiffs in an upcoming lawsuit.

Looks like the prez will have to fork over additional scads of Benjamins to his three law firms fighting to keep his original birth certificate and other records hidden (while giving the obligatory middle finger) to make sure this doesn't mushroom into a full-blown scandal. What would be worse than finding out that he may not meet the natural-born status may be that he has covered up this fact in a criminally fraudulent manner (Richard Milhouse Nixon, you may not be alone in your disgrace, sir).

Furthermore, the COLB that Hawaii authenticated simply does not prove that he is a natural born American. Only his original birth certificate (which has a section "7c -- Country and State or Foreign Country" as the example I posted earlier shows) can prove that. Factcheck.org is an Obama-run stooge of an organization. And even if Obama indeed was born in Honolulu, there are some situations that would nullify his natural-born status (e.g. his Kenyan father being a British subject whose laws make his children the same) or that time he spent in Indonesia, let alone traveling to Pakistan at a time when American citizens were barred from going there.

This matter isn't a concern of a few rabble-rousers; AOL conducted a poll a while back showing the majority of Americans considering this matter worthy of investigation.

Pax, considering you're linking to sources as diverse as World Nut Daily and an anti-abortion site....I'm not surprised you call factcheck an "Obama-run stooge"... but some people just can't be convinced regardless of how much evidence there is to the contrary. Yourself, for example. You believe what you want to believe, the facts be damned.

But the other sites all disagreed with him, noone.

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You believe what you want to believe, the facts be damned.

Dogmatically, you might say.

Random,

You got any recommendations for  a source of a accurate interpretation of the Bible.

You know. Someone who would look at the words. And present a logical thought.
Not one who would see what he wants to believe.  

Not one who would continue to press the square peg into the round hole.
Explaining  that he knows the truth.  It’s in the Bible.  
The words are just not arranged the way he would like. And fixing all those sentences will just take time.

Are all of the black lines in the redacted birth certificate symbolic of an African birf?

Ppopgun:  Somewhere I believe there's a requirement that for a person to be elected president he must first be a citizen and, if living in another country, must have lived a minimum of six consecutive years in the Continental U.S. before a certain age -- and perhaps that's in the case of dual citizenship.  That's the question that keeps popping up in my mind.  Please don't ask me for chapter and verse.  I don't have them.  It's something I read some time ago.  Sorry nothing more definite.  But it's something to look into if you're interested.