I say the least liked is the really surprising one, especially with Mike Huckabee coming in tied for 10th place right after he was the top pick at the Values Voters wing-ding.

Andrew Sullivan got replaced by David Frum as the Right's least favorite online blogger. They're both centrists, my kind of conservatives.

I think Newt and Sarah have grounds to seek the GOP nomination based on this poll.

The Right can say what they want, Rush is still their spokesman, and that is not something to be proud of.

23) Mitt Romney 4 - Should be our President right now.... I'm just sayin'

I wouldn't frame it as a matter of pride, Pogo. It's a serious leadership problem.  Rush has no intention of running for office. He's comfortable in his niche as a voice for the Right.  What the Right needs is a political leader to emerge.  I could be wrong about this but I don't get a sense of Sarah Palin running for office again. As potent a voice as she is, I think she's had it with the negative focus that is put on her and would rather pick and choose her time and place to make her points.  I don't blame her for that. I'd wilt under even the most benign attention and head for some solitude out of the spotlight.  

Pogo,

Thank you for letting me know that Rush is my spokesperson.  I was apparently unaware that this was a requirement, seeing as that I don't listen to him, but now that I have been enlightened to the fact that he is the spokesman of the right, I shall change my ways.

Thanks for giving me all the resources I need to fit into the liberal stereotype!

Does this mean I have to read Glenn Beck's book too?  Man, this whole not thinking for yourself stuff is just WAY easier.  As are stereotypes, but hey, that's nit picking, I'm sure.

 Woman,

I bet you listen to Glen Beck,  religiously.

--virgil

Romney? That's the name that comes up most often among moderate conservatives. Look. I'm still getting over McCain. I liked the guy but running for president made him unrecognizable. 

It's evident from the way you express yourself.

--virgil

Virgil,

Can you please explain your statement, with references, please?

looks like right wing news is carrying the water for the R's.....

right wing news seems to be left wing news for people like me, minus a FEW names on those lists.

wndr, as usual, you are in a class by yourself. How foolish of me to lump you in with the rest of the Righties. My bad and it won't happen again. Whenever I make my next generalization I will add "Except for wndrwomnan.

Pogo,

I will make sure and amend the mass email I just send to all of my right-leaning friends telling them we must recognize Rush as our spokesperson to include: All of you, but me.

All of them being quite desperate to fit into the politIlcal stereotypes, of course. It makes it much easier for the left to generalize and dismiss our arguments based on who they presume speaks for us.

wndr, I know you can read. So if you read the figures in Ray's post you will see who tops the list of people speaking for the right. Are you having a bad day, or just feel like fighting?

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pre ACORN for Beck

 it was a month ago..a month ago i didnt like owe and his policies..but now?? wait I still dont like owe and his policies..some things just never *CHANGE*

Pogo,

Yes, I can read.  From the list, I can see that 260 bloggers said they felt Rush spoke for the right.  Last I checked, 260 people doesn't equal an entire group, nor does that give enough sustainable information or facts to accurately state that a person DOES speak for an entire group.  Oddly enough, groups are comprised of individuals.  For example, I'll take a number from a completely left leaning source which states as of June 2009, there were 55,000,000 registered Republicans (http://www.democraticunderg...). 

So, these 260 bloggers account for what percentage of that 55 MILLION?  That's not even counting right-leaning independents, like myself.  I am supposed to believe that 260 bloggers can speak for the remaining 54,999,740 people? 

If YOU want to believe that this survey of bloggers speaks for the entire right side of the political spectrum, that is your choice.  I, however, look at it as these 260 bloggers see these people as most influential on the right based on their feelings, not mine.

I just think it's silly to take the opinion of a small group and make it into a representative determination that can be used to categorize an entire group, but that's just me.

Oh, and Pogo?  Only 24 of those bloggers listed Rush as #1.  So actually, you are using the fact that 24 bloggers, or 10.8% of this group, listed Rush as the most influential as a reason to generalize that:

The Right can say what they want, Rush is still their spokesman, and that is not something to be proud of.

Says who?

"Last I checked, 260 people doesn't equal an entire group......."

Sure doesn't.  And unless I'm misreading this thing, of the 260 bloggers, only 24 considered Rush Limbaugh to be the "most influential on the right".  In other words, less than one tenth of the respondents.  Hardly a general consensus.

Edit:  Oops. Sorry about that wndrwmn. 

Tuttsted,

Yes, but the opinion of those 24 obviously outweigh the opinions of the remaining 260 (actually, the total count is only 223 based on the posting).  So this must mean that the opinions of those 24 also speak for and determine the opinion of 55 million other people.

Just be a good member of the right and adjust yourself to fit into the stereotype that some people would like to create of you, because apparently, they know better.  Even if they are on the other side of the spectrum and all, but that doesn't matter! 

If all those people who stereotype the right as followers of Rush didn't have that to fall back on, they'd have to come up with something else OR admit it's a faulty generalization based out of political prejudice, and well, that's just time consuming. 

Michael Steele must feel a little unappreciated.  Limbaugh could be the most influential because of his venue but it doesn't mean he is the rights most liked person.  I listen to Newt but like Romney as a candidate.

I might be wrong, but I think the 24 votes for Rush means he got 24 first-place votes. That's how it's done with sports ranking, putting the number of first-place votes in parenthesis. The publisher didn't use parenthesis on both polls so it's not clear.

Ray,

The point being that while this is infomative on the way these bloggers view the world, the attempts by some to use this as a way to justify their belief that Rush speaks for all who are right-leaning is not factually sound.

The people who voted for Rush may see him that way, that does not mean that the "right must accept" him as their spokesperson.

Just pointing out that some people need to remember to pause before taking something and applying it to an entire group.

Ray, I think the point to this whole thing is to NEVER post anything that can be remotely construed to be the tiniest critical of the sacred Right.

Here is further proof that the Republican Party is self-destructing

http://www.politico.com/new...

It's   good to see Ms. Palin out and about more often.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

--virgil

"Ray, I think the point to this whole thing is to NEVER post anything that can be remotely construed to be the tiniest critical of the sacred Right."

Or the left.   

You're right virgil, it IS good to see Mrs. Palin out and about.

spam code  EXE HD.  That's what I'm afraid of with mine.

Her book should be a doozie, I hear it is called "Going Rogue" 

Pogo,

No, you missed the point.

The point is, people on ANY SIDE shouldn't make statements on an entire group of people based on the feelings of a FEW.

You believed that this article proved the right should accept Rush as their spokesperson because 260 people thought he was influential.

You made a statement that is factually untrue, then when caught, proceed to claim that the disagreement was for being "critical of the right," when it wasn't.

It was because you made a generalization that was untrue.

I pointed out to you that there was no factual evidence supporting this fact.  I also asked you if you believed these 260 bloggers spoke for the other 55 million Republicans, or if their opinions mattered. 

Just because generalizations are easy, that doesn't mean you should do it.