I swore I had single-sex P.E. classes in high school, except senior year when the class was just for those who didn't play a sport or was in band.

 can we say SEXUAL HARASSMENT !!!!!!!

 A lot of teachers (especially generation X-box) are breathing a sigh of relief.  The drug sniffing dogs could have thinned their ranks considerably.

 If ya teach kids ta put condoms on bananas and cucumbers, probably single sex PE classes are not gonna make too much difference

 Oh, I see................

Its because the little angels were  "embarrased" to  "work out" in front of each other

(provided the gender is different)

Lets ask Dr. Dean Haddock

Or as the stress management foks refer to him

"Dr. Fish"

 Chico, putting condoms on bananas and cucumbers is probably going to set some girls' expectations a bit too high...

 It has been more than a young adult's lifetime since I have been in P.E., both segregated and co-ed, but as I remember it, co-ed P.E. made the kids work out a little harder, to impress members of the opposite sex the best they can.

Why don't we just have single-sex schools as well? If you want your kids sheltered then send them to some religious private school. Public, tax-payer supported schools are not the place for overprotective, unrealistic, "My kid is better than everyone else's" parents. What do they think this is going to accomplish? PE would have been so boring if it was all girls!

And why didn't people vote for the drug screening and the dogs? It would more than pay for itself within the first year. (Not to mention keep the special "Better kids" away from drugs in their single-sex classes). We should at least be screening the teachers- I don't want my tax dollars to go to some crack head that's going to be working with teenagers.

 WOW.  WHEN did PE classes go coed?????  We always had separate PE classes for guys & gals.  50's & 60's.  we had to 'dress out' also.  From what I've seen on the news kids can pretty much wear what the hell they want to wear! and they walk around in groups talking!  How the hell is that exercise?!  no wonder we have fat kids!!!!!

 RF

Unless they be realistic and use cooking bananas

 I don't understand why they switched from the norm...at BHS..Ms.Sargent had the girls and Mr.Polite..Briggs..Masconni had the boys for P.E....and yes, everyone had to dress out....and LAPS around the football field...man, that was P.E. back then...why did they change...wht change the tire if it isn't flat?

They switched from the norm for gym b/c this board really has no idea how to improve academic attainment within the schools under its jurisdiction.  Mettler found some non-issues for them to focus their time on so they look busy.

Frankly, I'm shocked that they didn't pass the drug dogs.  It's exactly the sort of ineffective policy that they appear to like.  Has anyone asked Mettler how he gets to assume that the dogs will deter 8 children who would otherwise be expelled in order to make his financing argument?  My guess is that the answer is no.  There is no evidence to demonstrate that drug dogs would be that effective (there is lots of evidence, however, going the other way, that dogs don't deter and that their detection rate is woefully inaccurate).  Mettler doesn't have access to any secret research files that the rest of us can't get.

Tara writes: "And most people can't say easily that they are not for a program that could keep drugs out of schools and could keep more students in school. So I would keep my eye out for this one to come up again."

Come on Tara, you're a reporter whose work I respect.  Where is the evidence to show that these dogs will actually keep drugs out of the schools?  TBC published a letter as a community voice stating that dogs were effective.  That letter was written by someone who owns a drug dog company and has an obvious financial bias to promote the use of dogs.  I called that person's office and even they couldn't provide me with evidence that dogs work. 

Given the severe budget cuts, the Board shouldn't be looking for new ways to throw money out of the window.  Maybe having 11 schools sanctioned under the NCLB will get them focused upon academic attainment.

 And YES...back in the day, they did run the dogs thru the lockers from time to time....were talking late 60's-early 70's...LOTTA DOPE back then..... LOTTA DOPE now.... so much for common sence

Hey Jessica, just wanted to clarify: I meant to express that I thought this could come up again because I noticed some folks seemed hesitant to come out against the program on its merits and focused on the bad financial times ahead. It seems like a good place to apply some political pressure if anyone was so inclined. (I can hear it now - what? you don't want to deter kids from bringing drugs to school?)

So down the road as the financial situation clears up, and Mettler only needs to convince one other board member (Batey said he didn’t think the policy proposal was bad – just bad timing), so I don't think this issue will die away entirely - I expect to see drug-dogs back on a KHSD agenda down the road.

Hope this clears things up.

 Fair enough Tara, thank you.  I have no problems calling out the program for its lack of merit and I hope that people who think that this would be worthwhile in the future will evaluate the available evidence before casting their vote.

Not to mention the fact that, if the Board really wanted to do a drug program like dogs or swabs, they could get federal grant money to help support the program without taking money out of an already stretched budget.

 Whats with all the fuss about PE classess?   has anybody actually observed a high school PE class in action these days?   half the damn students do not even bother to dress out and participate ...  the teachers are frustrated as heck ... students mill around and dont follow instructions ...  many just sit and watch ...  its amazing ... maybe its time the Trustees starting dealing with the reality of what is going on in their schools ... stop with the political posturing and pay some attention to some fundamental matters:  like student discipline,  campus security, student performnce, etc.

as far as pre-employment drug testing - KCHSD is one of the few large govt employers in this county that has no such testng -  enough said !

drug sniffing dogs?  another "feel good" concept - the very limited scope of this proposal means it would not be  practical in reality and will do little to combat drug use on campus - you cant sniff the kids - so u wont get much bang for the buck - running a dog by a group of lockers once in a blue moon aint gonna do much ...  now put one by the front gate evey morning to sniff the kids as they walk in  and you might make a difference ... and while you are at it .. have them walk thru a metal detector ...  but of course those steps might inhibit the learning process and hurt the spirit of our students ... we wouldnt want to take campus safety seriously now would we?

 we wouldn't want to take campus safety seriously now would we?

Nope, Blood. The little Angels might just sue yer a**!

Daddy's a bureaucrat and Mommy's an ACLU Atty...............