Now why all the bad press?  Just check out the Division I program and those amazing state of the art athletic facilities!  That's what it's all about!  (right???)

Aren't they STILL going to get their pay-raises....while the students take it in the short-and curlies.....

Observer, the professors have been told not to be on campus on designated furlough day.  That generally means no class are to be held.... CSUB students who pay higher tuition and less class days are feeling the crunch here.  I was paying 1358.00 per quarter.  Now it's gone up nearly 1800.00 while some classes have been deleted from the program.  CSUB increased the tuition twice between Spring and Fall quarter this year, kinda crazy if you ask me. 

One more time with feeling................................TOO MANY CHIEFS NOT ENOUGH INDIANS!!!

its been my experience that MANY people who work AT CSUB don't deserve their job.  the following are just a couple of my over 50 observations I have made in the last 3-4 years

Maintenance personnel hanging out behind the bushes north of the old book store drinkin cases of meisterbrow, or what ever is the cheapest beer on sale at Albertsons or Vons, while on the clock.  They are also driving state vehicles while consuming alcohol, as well as probably drunk.

People in the transcript office with no people skills, who cannot read an address to ship transcripts to their proper place

Some professors, who think their culture is above and beyond other cultures in society, and don't have a problem showing their blatant racism towards those other cultures while standing on their bully pulpit in front of their classes.

There are also other places where CSUB could cut their budget, and stop wasting the taxpayer money....maybe even generate more revenue

allowing non-citizens, who can't even read or write, to go to college for free.   a better place to start them would be the Bakersfield Adult School.  CSUB had to have sub 100 classes for awhile (not sure if they still do) to accommodate people lacking enough knowledge to function at the college level.

stop raping the students on the cost of books at your bookstore.  You wonder why your bookstore profits have taken a dive in the last decade?  Well, if your prices were competitive, instead of predatory, your students wouldn't have to turn to internet resources to find the books much MUCH cheaper..  (example...a math book @ CSUB....$140.....brand new on half.com...$60 plus $5 shipping)

this one is my pet peeve

Why in the HELL did CSUB spend millions of dollars building a library you have to HIKE UP A FREEKIN MOUNTAIN to get to the door?  How many millions of taxpayer dollars were wasted in bringing in all that dirt needed to cover up the lower level, landscape that hill, pour cement and build short walls along the path?  it wasn't necessary....oh yeah..my favorite about that....CSUB discriminates against healthy people by allowing handicapped people to enter at the ground level on the side, but no one else.

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Give em' HELL ~learnem~....they are suppose to be intellegant...yet IF you don't have an ONCE of common sense...

An old saying that we were taught by our parents about a hundred years ago....

I went to CSUB and it had its problems like any other college, but I think it would be absolutely crazy to eliminate Spanish as a major. Kern County is filled with spanish speakers, and it is important to increase communication with the spanish speaking community. My goal at CSUB was to graduate with a BA as quickly as possible. I took elementary spanish classes, but quit at the intermediate level because I worked during the day when the majority of the intermediate classes occurred. To this day I wish that I would have tried to squeeze in additional classes or saved up enough money to immerse myself in another country. 

Ling, you have the CSU and UC professors confused with elementary school teachers. All CSU and UC faculty have taken pay cuts in the form of furloughs this year (2-10% at UC depending on salary level, 10% at CSU). There have been no pay raises for university professors in those two systems before the furloughs took affect. This has been all over the media. It's the elementary school teachers who still want raises and cost of living increases even in this economy.

In the paper--2 or 3 days ago had an article that the governor sign that they were getting their raises...

You must have misread the paper Ling. Arnold has nothing to do with the salaries of faculty and staff at CSUs and UCs. Salary is purely a contract negociation process between the unions and the executives with each system. Nothing Arnold signs would affect the salaries of faculty and staff. That's why he couldn't order them to furloughs when he ordered other state employees to take furloughs. Furloughs only happened at UCs and CSUs when the unions agreed to amend their contracts to allow them.

Only managers and executives are under direct control because they have no union and their position is purely regulated by CA law. They're the only ones Arnold could have any direct power over. Last weekend, Arnold vetoed a bill that would have limited raises for CSU and UC managers and executives because it would make it "difficult" to retain top-level executives. The bill would have modified the law controlling management salary to make it illegal to give management level employees a raise in years where the system had decreased funding.

Just three more quarters left at Cal State and I'm counting down the days. And, as for my opinion....

http://people.bakersfield.c...

It's the elementary school teachers who still want raises and cost of living increases even in this economy.

alright shwaine...im gonna call you out on THAT comment

That is completely untrue.  a great example is the district I work at....we havent had any COLA's in about 4 years, with no negotiations in about that time either.

what you are hearing is the mouthpieces from the CTA

a majority of the teachers in the State of CA do not support the CTA, and do not belong to the Union.  You can chalk it up to CTA's latest actions like

1. donating a huge amount of money to fight prop 8
2. sinking 4.5 million dollars into a special election back in april-may that was already DOA before it ever hit the voting booths...now, CTA is suing the state of CA to get that money back

I know for a fact that the CTA doesnt give a rats ass about what happens on the ground level, in the classroom, in public education.  Many teachers feel that their complaints fall on deaf ears, while the CTA just furthers their own sick, twisted agenda..

The CTA is now screaming for raises because thats what they think the teachers want right now.   all we want them to do is to shut their trap, and either start representing teachers in the issues that are occuring in the classrooms, or continue their agenda-based decisions that wlll eventually force them to dry up and blow away.

I am personally NOT a member of CTA anymore....i renounced my membership when I would contact Sacramento regarding issues i was seeing in the classroom that many of my colleuges were finding too, that wasnt being addressed by the CTA

the only response I would get from the CTA was, "tell us what you think of our new website."

:middlefingerCTA:

Well they can always scuttle the DI ambitions.  There is no need for DI athletics when they are struggling to pay faculty and staff.  How can they justify the expense.  Not every state school can be Ohio State University.

If it don't make dollars it don't make sense (cents).

It's the CTA that makes the newspapers Learnem. Unless you can get the rest of your fellow teachers to renounce their union memberships too, you're going to have to live with the public opinion the CTA generates.