I had a teacher who played MSM News before class started. I thought that was more offensive than an R rated movie. 

What do you think most of these kids watch/see at home?  I'll bet a lot of the parents cuss, hit one another (or the kids) and don't lock the bedroom door.  I would hedge a guess that most 6th graders already have seen/heard most of that even if just via the video games they play.

Nothing wrong with nudity.  It should be rated G.

Seems to me that there should have been a permission slip signed before a rated-R movie could be shown in class.  Were the parents notified of the movie or not? Parents should ultimately have the right to choose whether or not to allow their under-18 aged children to watch the movie.  If parents sign the permission slip, the teacher and administration are off the hook.

Seems odd, though, that of all the great movies to show in a classroom, the teacher's selection was rated-R?  Perhaps the teacher should broaden his/her library.

A teacher told an interesting story the other day.  It seems the kids were dropping the F-bomb and when called on the inappropriateness of it they asked "Mister, don't YOU ever say it?"  To which the teacher replied "Yes, I say it all the time in traffic.  But have YOU ever heard me say it?"

Personally by 6th grade and way before I had seen all the friday the 13th movies and such so it is not a big deal for me and my parents would not have been upset with it. It was an R rated movie and the teacher is not the parent so if a parent is upset with it I believe they have that right. The teacher could have sent a notice about the movie ahead of time for permission

I had a teacher in high school that played Rush Limbaugh on the radio.

I even got to see the Juliet's tigobitties in Romeo and Juliet in my Jr. High GATE English class.  I seigned the permission slip and everything.

Was Juliet really 13 years old?  She looked nothing like the girls in my class.

Yeah but Jf, compare her to the 13 yr olds today with all the makeup and hoochie clothes.

"most" kids now a days see far worse at home, and do worse too...seems to be a 6th grade pregnancy epidemic in Bakersfield this school year

I even got to see the Juliet's tigobitties in Romeo and Juliet in my Jr. High GATE English class  HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA :)

Aside from the parental consent issue, a classroom isn't the place for certain movies nor should a teacher be the one to decide which R rated content is appropriate for sixth graders.  I know a lot of off color jokes from years as a bartender and am asked to tell them in class (with adults) and I always tell them nope,  this is not the appropriate place. 

Thank you jf, for putting things in the right perspective.

Yeah but Jf, compare her to the 13 yr olds today with all the makeup and hoochie clothes

You have a point there, Nancy.  But I did notice how all the girls became grown women over the summer between my 7th and 8th grade year.

Or was it just my hormones?

"tigobitties"  STILL cracks me up.  I had never heard that until Jf used it the other day.

Uhh..maybe both Jf.  Maybe both.  LOL.

Kung Fu Hustle was a 'reward'? I'd hate to see what those poor kids have to watch when they're bad. Most schools require the teachers to get approval of what they intend to show, and then send home permission slips for anything other than a G rated movie. Somebody dropped the ball on this one and people have every right to complain.

I reviewed this film here .

Parents should have been aware~ but *snicker* this film's humor should be right up a 6th grader's alley.

I don't know if it still is, but Schindler's List was part of class curriculum in h.s. I know there are historical documentaries that some parents would object to. And some Greek and roman art--better than Playboy.

But big diff from entertainment and education. In my childhood--am I really that old?--married couples on the movie screen slept in twin beds. The times, they have changed.

When my kid was in 6th grade, the bus driver played the radio on a music station with rap. One kid told his mother about the lyrics that sometimes used profanity. The bus driver was confused because he didn't understand what he did wrong. The radio was turned to a Disney station. (The boy who "spoiled" the music became a social outcast--might as well of had leprosy.)

Maybe our social standards are still in transition?

I am one of those parents who would have been upset had this happened at my school without a permission slip.  I monitor what my kids watch and what they listen to until they reach high school after that I know they have already seen or heard worse at school however we do draw the line at anything with gratuitous sex or gore.  They may be the only kids on the block who don't watch South Park or MTV, but that is my parental decision to make and not anyone else's.  Socially acceptable does not mean it is still morally right.  Child marriage is socially acceptable in some countries but that is does not make it morally right either.  Anytime we question a films content, we watch it first -  sometimes R rated movies or PG-13 are not really that big a deal and other times they can be downright embarassing to watch - Lethal Weapon and Basic Instinct would be the examples I am reminded of - my older kids have seen Lethal Weapon, but Basic Instinct would be an absolute no. 

Doesn't anyone ever get embarassed when listening to the radio?  I have had to explain the meaning of lyrics more than once to my older kids just so they understand why I don't want them listening to it or singing it.  Our bus in Rosedale School District is tuned in to it all the time.  My six year old was singing "my humps" and "London Bridge" and some rap songs that all but explained the sex act going on.  My niece sings Crazy B* by nickelback or somebody  and she is 4, but that also is her moms parental choice.

LOL I also got to see the same Romeo and Juliet when I was a junior in high school and was "nearly" treated to Juliet's goods as well.  We were rescued from eternal moral corruption by my teacher though, who ran up to the TV with a piece of regular plain white paper to cover the screen for that part.  Little did she know we could see right through it...duh!

I do think that a permission slip should be required, but I am seriously doubtful the thing would ever actually make it home.  20 bucks says the upset family is a "religious" one, in which case the kid who snitched was doomed to be a social outcast anyway...

amylynam, how do you handle 'erctile disfunction' ads on TV?

The issue is not what parents choose to let their children see in their own homes/on their own time.  The issue is whether the school had the right to deprive parents of the option to consent....it is immaterial that some, or even all, of the parents would ultimately agree to let their children watch the movie. 

This one is a no brainer. In the Kern High School District we cannot show any moives not on the approved list without permission. All rated R or PG13 movies have to have parental permission.

Reward or not, It sounds like this was a poor movie choice. Personally, I only show one movie in my world history classes. I just don't feel I am a film teacher so I tend to try and teach the kids rather than pop in a two hour movie that only remotely relates to the standards I am teaching so I can kick back on the computer and cruise the Bakersfield Californian forums.

It doesn't matter that the kids have foul mouths and have seen it all before, teachers should set the example.

I have found a great way to keep high schoolers entertained is to have them play Catch Phrase. It works on their vocabulary, they love it, and it doesn't have the stigma of watching movies. That is a good reward.

"It doesn't matter that the kids have foul mouths and have seen it all before, teachers should set the example."

God knows somebody needs to be.  And that was my point with my teacher story.

I get tired of hearing "well what do you think kids see at home?"

We don't watch 'R' rated movies at our house; the rare exceptions might be 'Schindler's List', 'The Passion of the Christ' or maybe 'The Patriot'.  Nudity and violence just for the sake of nudity and violence is innappropriate in my husband and my mind.  Our kids were 11 years old before they were allowed to see their first PG-13 movie (and it was Jurassic Park).

We also don't curse or use foul language in our home, and my college-age kids can't stand it when it's used within their earshot.  I've never said the 'F' word in my whole life; does that make me weird?  If it does, good for me.  I can't stand hearing profanity in films, particularly when there's absolutely no need for it.  I so looked forward to the 'Julie/Julia' movie and it was wonderful except for the 1 'F' word near the end.  Did the movie need it?  Of course not, and because of this random 'flinging' of the 'F' word I will NOT be buying the dvd.

The teacher who showed the 'R' rated film was out line in assuming that his students were raised with the same crummy standards that he apparently has.

I didn't have a problem with my kids seeing r-rated movies (when I knew about it) but the teacher was out of line.  Especially since the movie wasn't an informational one.

"Schindler's List" would have been a different story, but still with parental permission. 

So would "Passion of the Christ," which has no place in a classroom.

Odd spam code which I won't repeat, but the last two letters were "QT" preceded by a word which apparently was in Julie/Julia

The teacher was out of line. No question about it.  What I have a problem with is the lazy-ass people who call on television stations to solve their problems. Way too many people these days use the news media to do their work.  Is this really an "investigation"?  What happened to talking to the principal? What was there to investigate?  It's really laughable the "investigations" I've seen on the news.  Going out to CSUB to find out how parking violations are handled for those with the disabled placards is not an investigation.  People should learn to solve their own problems first rather than end up looking stupid like the irate parent on TV.

Talking about this with Mr.Sage~ we can't remember any nudity ( maybe a male behind as they were washing) there was lots of stylized violence and "cuss words"...

bottom line :parents should have been aware of the film being shown.

Agreed about these so- called investigations.

Aren't you guys thinking about "Shanghai Knights"?

http://www.kids-in-mind.com...

(haven't seen it, doesn't sound like too much nudity to worry about)

Nope~ see my first comment~ I reviewed the film and watched it about 7 times. Missed that S.N. film all together.

Well, let me speak from a side that none of you can.  My child IS IN this class and I was dumbfounded when the woman who brought it to the attention of everyone called me monday and told me.  We did NOT get a permission slip sent home and we were not informed about any movies that were being shown. 

My child does NOT witness the things half of you say they "probably" see in the home.  Do those of you who say that, did you witness it in your homes or you do currently, and therefore are saying that you allow your children to see and do the things that you do, so no big deal, everyone is doing it?  If you smoke, do you allow your child to smoke in your home?  If you drink, do you allow them to drink in your home?  If you watch porn, do you allow them to watch it in your home?  Probably not, because you disapprove of it because they are MINORS and you are still teaching them right from wrong.  So since you would most likely disapprove of it in your home, why would you say it doesnt bother some of you then, if they watch stuff like that at school?  Because you niavely think that they are there protecting your child like you would??  WELL APPARENTLY this school, and others don't do that.  No one, NO ONE takes better care of your child than you do!  And if you think otherwise, then you have a lot to learn.

I do NOT cuss, my husband does NOT cuss, we do NOT watch movies like that in our home or at the movies, much less let our children watch them.  ANYWHERE, ANYTIME!!!  My child knows these things occur in the world, and witness them unwillingly when others take it upon themselves to act like morons in public and around me and my family.  But they know and understand that it is wrong and do not do it.   My children are taught morales, right from wrong and the most important thing, that they will answer to God for the things they see and do that are wrong.  My child said they occupied themself with other class things when the movies were shown.  But they shouldn't have to, because this kind of thing should not have happened. I wish my child had spoken up without fear of being punished or ridiculed, but that is why they kept quiet and did something else so they didn't have to watch it.  VERY SAD that my child felt this way. But I told them to never be afaid to speak up.  Because they shouldnt worry what happens to them from the school or others there, the others or the school should worry about ME finding out that they were picked on and kept silent, because like my friend who spoke out about it, I WILL bring it to the attention of EVERYONE!!   And schools certainly don't like negative attention. 

A permission slip shouldnt be sent home for anything other than a rated G movie.  When we start letting things like this slide in our schools, dont wonder why then when awful things happen.  I send my child to school under the pretenses that they are being cared for and watched and supervised, (not as well as I would obviously) but it shouldnt be the other way around.  Our kids or us should not be pointing out to the ADULTS there that something is wrong.  There is more to the story, but it wasnt mentioned.  All I will say it that it had to do with what another adult said to a child on Monday.  VERY VERY WRONG, and had it been said to my child, that person would NO LONGER be working ANYWHERE!!!  

When a child whose family does not celebrate Christmas or Halloween or whatever in their lives, those parents tell the school that their child is to be exempt from any activites like such at the school because of religious reasons.  And we all know that the schools would NEVER tell a child to just sit in the corner or ignore what is going on in the class, or that they had to participate because that families rights would be infringed upon.  Well, I am HIGHLY religious and my rights were infringed upon.  Because I believe it is wrong and sinful and do not want my child subjected to anything like that.  And no one bothers to care and they just brush it under the rug.

If they think its perfectly fine to show that stuff in class, then they can't get mad at a child on the playground or in the class for cussing then.  If kids can't cuss at school or be violent towards other kids, then DUH, anything rated R or rated other than G, should not be shown because it has a reason it is rated that way.  ALL movies should be approved!! PERIOD!!!  

Basically, if you wouldn't teach your child to say the "F" word or "SH" word when they are learning to talk, or if you would not teach them to punch, slap or kick little susie or billy when they are mad or for whatever reason, then well you get the point!!

If you subject them to things like that, especially at a young age, then they grow up not thinking twice about cussing someone out, or beating someone up when things don't go their way, or standing up to something (like this) or someone and saying that it is wrong or saying anything about it!

People get fired from jobs because they tell sexual jokes, look at porn on company time or computers or use profanity, or dress inappropriately because IT IS UNACCEPTALBE and NOT PROFESSIONAL.  So why would you suject a CHILD to that in a LEARNING invironment and then send them out in the world like its okay?? 

And in response to why it wasnt taken to the principal first, well, if you knew this school and how they handled things, especially the Principal and Vice Principal, then you wouldn't be shocked why it was originally dealt with the way it was.  Nothing would have been done.  I speak from past experience with this school and knowing others personally who have had problems with them.  I have had to go rounds till I was satisfied with the outcome, but if I had just sat on my butt and done nothing, then nothing would have been done. They say it'll be dealt with, but in reality, only a hand spanking will be dealt and everyone warned.  I could go on and on and on AND ON about this school and the people who run it and the outright unspeakable ways they run it.  Mr. Gizbertz should be running a boot camp, not a school with impressionable kids.  Same goes for the V.P.  SEVERAL of the teachers there should have their teaching licenses stripped from them and never be allowed to teach again.  What I don't understand is, if half the people there that are "the problem people" I'm talking about, why don't they quit teaching?  You make these kids' lives miserable, just like how you obviously feel about teaching them and having to deal with them. And the flat out hatefullness you express by your actions towards some of them and even their parents.  If it's that bad STOP TEACHING!! ITS THAT EASY!!!  Go work at a college, where AT LEAST they are adults and you can hold them to higher standards!!  Go teach in a prison, where you could probably get away with treating them like prisoners. But not at my child or any school. DON'T TEACH KIDS!!!  THEY AREN'T PERFECT!!!!  THEY ARE LEARNING, and you're hateful, bad example teaches them that it's acceptable to treat others that way.  You get what you give!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this school was REALLY looked into, you all would be shocked at what goes on there and what is overlooked, especailly by the principal!  So until YOU Mr. "STUPID LOOKING PARENTS" have to deal with something like this...keep your ridiculous statements to yourself.  I can't help laugh at how just plain silly you sound...and Im sure Im not the only one who thinks so!  I think it's been long overdue with this school. 

What is wrong with those of you who think it's okay?  Are you're standards and morales that low , or do you even have any??  Or you just want to be with the "in crowd" and not different or cause a problem?  Then what do you stand for?  Where do you draw the line?  These are kids, not even teenagers yet!!

Hmmm...

"20 bucks says the upset family is a "religious" one, in which case the kid who snitched was doomed to be a social outcast anyway..."

Well, Juelsy, it''s a sad day, when Good people are outcasts.  I'd rather be an outcast, than the popular kid who realizes one day, that the world doesn't evolve around me.  I'd rather make a difference...A GOOD DIFFERENCE and if that makes us "Religious nuts" outcasts, then send me off to an Island far far away.  Would you rather have your child play at my house or at the teacher who lets kids watch rated R movies?   Cause I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't want your child coming home telling you about a movie they saw where people were having sex or them cussing and you ask them where they heard that language, and they say over at Mr/Mrs. Teachers house from a movie they put on.  Cause I bet you if that happened, you'd be fuming and calling that person asking why they would show a movie like that to your child.  But if your child came to my house and played, and talked like that, they would be sent home and you would be getting a phone call from me asking if you allow such in your house?   And I can tell you that you would be extremely embarrassed.  And if not...then that speaks volumes about your character and morales.

My friend's son spoke up about the movie and the language Monday and was ridiculed for it by the teacher.  Hmmm...go figure...that person must not be religious.  

I sure hope they teach some family member of yours some day, so that you can feel comfortable knowing that "some religious outcast" isn't teaching your kid.  Cause God forbid!!

Hello to all! Let me first begin by saying that I am the upset mother... and today has been a rough day!  I never imagined that I would be recieved in so many negative ways in the many different blog sites I have visited. It is very depressing... however, I still know in my heart that I did what I had to do and it was the right thing!!!

It feels important for me to share with all of you some facts of why I did what I did by asking the news for some help.  First off this is not the first run in I have had with this school or this teacher! Just last month I had written a personal letter to my sons teacher regarding some concerns I was having about my son and issues he was having while at school. This man decided to read my letter out loud in front of students while my son was asking him to stop and telling the kids to go away because it was none of their business... he was humiliated!!! The teacher had no idea what I had written in this letter which meant he had no idea what he was revealing to my sons peers. I talked with the school counselor and also the principal. I was asked to confront his teacher during a parent/ teacher conference which I did. Mr. Gonzalez apologized for his behavior.  Something I think he should have done!!! But, was there ever any disciplinary action taken... NO!  Was my son humiliated... ABSOLUTELY!!!! That was strike one!!!

Now currently... regarding the "movie" situation.  Yes, I am a Christian... I believe in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!!!  Am I perfect? Not even close!!!!  Do I think that by wanting the school that my son attends to uphold some morals will ruin my sons entire future?  Uuhh... NO!!!  The movies... yes I said movies since there was more than one filthy film played which was not reported in the interview... that were played were not appropriate for children!  The movie Kung Fu Hustle is rated R and clearly states not intended for children!!!!  Another movie was PG-13, meaning not intended for children under the age of 13.  These children are 10 and 11 years old!!!  Yes, I am sure some of them ... well honestly all of them... have heard the foul language like in the movie and more than likely have even seen violence and nudeity. But, that does not mean that it should be acceptable for it to be played for them by their teacher in their classroom!!!  I realize that the school is smack dab in the middle of Oildale and many of the kids come from poor homes. Does that mean that they should be given a lesser education? I don't think so!  During a different run in with the principal he stated, "we just don't have the parent support so what can we really do?"  Does that mean that we just throw in the towel and give up?  I don't think so!  I'd rather believe that when the going gets tough the tough work harder!!!  There is a reason I took things as far as I have... a reason that you were not allowed to hear.  And something that for the time being I need to keep private.  Just please trust that I have good reason!  The few people that I have told were so appaled that they flat out said if that had happened to their child heads would be spinning! (This does not concern Mr. Gonzalez, but another staff member).

Also know that before seeking help from the news station I tried to contact the principal, vice principal and even the superintendant.  The only thing I was allowed to do was leave a voice mail and could not be assured that I would be contacted by the following day.  I was furious!  I have asked for help in other situations and was left without resolve... I was not about to let it happen again!  OUR CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT!!!!!

I could go on and on... but what good would it do?  More than likely I would just receive more negative comments from people that don't understand all that we have been through. It hurts.... I wish it didn't but, it does!!!  I care about my children... and yours... and if that makes me a bad person then what in the heck is this world coming to?  I just hope and pray that by sharing my story it will shine some light on the goings on at Standard Middle School and make them straighten up their behavior!!! 

"I wish it didn't but, it does!!!  I care about my children... and yours... and if that makes me a bad person then what in the heck is this world coming to?"

Let me first say that I am happy you came here to voice your side of the story.

If you want my honest opinion, I do think you should have been made aware first, and be given the option to opt out.  And I don't want anyone, including you, to feel hurt because of your beliefs.

What I wrote above is my honest opinion: I believe that nudity is suitable for ages 0 on up.  It should be of absolutely no significance.  Cussing and violence, not so much.  Children learn the English language in part by hearing others use it, and I think it's cheating a child to condone cussing when learning a really good vocabulary equips one with so many better and more powerful words than crude cuss words.

I don't look down upon you for your beliefs at all.  However, I get the feeling that some people who share your objections look down upon mine.

How about if we just respect each other's beliefs instead?  :)

Simple solution, really. If you can't solve the problem with the principal, go to the district superintendent. If that gets you nowhere, go the board of trustees.  If you're not the only parent who feels that way, the BOT will hear your complaint. By then the media will pick up your story simply because at that point it is newsworthy.  And if the BOT won't do anything, vote someone else in who will. Or, better yet, move to a different district, attend a private school, or even home school!

Beacause the "investigation" didn't mention any of the numerous problems you said you've had in the past, the incident was simply a screw-up by one teacher.  I have kids in grades one and three and if I had the same problem you did I would talk to their teachers first. If I'm not satisfied, then I go to the principal, followed by the superintendent, and, if necessary, the board of trustees.  And I have a feeling they will return my call me if I leave them voicemails.  I would at least give them a chance to respond before escalating the issue.

Oh, and to the other poster, religious people are not all good people. Some of the most heinous acts are carried out by religious folks, including Christians.  Religious fanatics are the most dangerous people in the world because they won't think for themselves.

fivehole... I have had problems with this school since Sept. 2006. Trust me I have gone through the "chain of command"  in the past... just to be ignored or sent back to the person I firs spoke with to restart the whole process.  And as far as me moving... my home was on the market for 7 months before we had to pull it off because we now owe more than it is worth! SMS is the only school within our district that has a 6th grade class! I did homeschool for a short time before it became apparent to me that homeschooling was not my calling in life!  I did look into an interdistrict transfer and was told that with all of the over crowding in schools there was no guarantee that my son could be placed into a better school than the one he is already attending. And when I attempted to use a family members address I was told that I could face charges of purgery... ah, not what I want to set myself up for!!!!! And yes, I did look into private school... but right now there is no way my family can afford a $5000 a year tuition!!! Seriously... I have been running myself ragged trying to find a solution!!!  But, in all honesty that only helps me and my children... where does that leave the others?

The bottom line is this... maybe I could have handled things differently! But given the past history I felt that I needed to find some help and fast... this latest incident was just the candle on the cake as there have been so many others!!!   People need to keep in mind that the kids we are talking about are only 10 and some 11 years old!  To me it was a big deal!!! The teacher seems nice enough (except for his lack of good judgement) but I don't know him... who knows what thoughts were going through his head when the kids were seeing this filth!!! I seriously hope that it was nothing disgusting... but the people have a right to know!  I wish so many people wouldn't feel so strongly against how I handled this situation... I am willing to bet if they understood all that we have dealt with over the years they would feel differently, but in the end I still think I did what was right! The fact of the matter is that I brought attention to the school... and where there is attention there is change.  Problem solved!!!

What is wrong with this picture?  I have seen "Kung Fu Hustle."  What does showing this movie to a 6TH GRADE CLASS have to do with the curriculum?  They are 6th graders!!!!!!  First of all, showing an R-rated movie to 6th graders is wrong.  This is what is wrong with our society so don't even get me started on this soap box.  Second of all, my tax dollars are paying for public education and I am not really sure how this movie fits in the curriculum.  A reward?  Okay show something else.  Poor judgment here.  Then to make it worse the principal backs up the teacher for allowing to show it as "a reward."  Kung Fu Hustle?  Really?  Do we really want to go down this road?  

Being an educator myself, I am appalled that for one, a teacher even considered this movie, two that the principal allowed it and three was taking up class time to show it, reward or not.  The comment "Would it make the difference if the "R" rated movie had educational value?" doesn't not even warrant an answer but I am giving it anyway.  THEY ARE SIXTH GRADE STUDENTS.  They are 11-12 years old.  Why are they watching an R-rated movie in the first place, let alone at school? I am always appalled at parents who bring their kids to R-rated movies in the first place so that value system is already tainted.  But students are to go to school to be educated, to be ready for the educational process, to be fully functioning adults later in life.  If it is about a reward system, of which I completely agree, then choose something more appropriate than an R-rated movie to a bunch of 6th graders.   I would not even allow it to a group of 12th graders.  Rewarding students is an excellent notion.  Showing a movie as a reward is just fine, but don't show an R-rated movie to a bunch of 6th graders.  Poor choice.  And if you are, choose something better than Kung Fu Hustle.  Showing a movie for educational value is one tool that a teacher can pull from the toolbox of strategies, but it has to have educational merit.  It has to have meaning and purpose.  

The moral here:  poor choice, poor judgment, poor communication.  I hope the lesson is learned.  The sad thing is how come more parents are not speaking out?  Do they find it acceptable?  I commend the mother who is upset at this.  Morals and values are truly lacking in this society.  Students lack character and judgment and some of the younger teachers come from the generation from where it started.  We need to get back to teaching kids respect, what it means to be respectful, what it means to have character, proper morals and values.  It has been lost.  I support the mother who spoke out and said something.  Good for you.  More need to do that.

Just wanted to leave a supportive comment for the parents upset about the movie being shown in the classroom without their permission.  My husband and I do not watch "R" rated movies in our home and we don't go see them in the theatres.  Our children would not be allowed to watch "R" rated movies either regardless of supposed "educational" value.

I recall being given the choice to see Schindler's List in high school (it was being broadcast on TV).  I opted not to watch it although I'm sure it could be classified as educational.  (There are other ways to learn about the atrocities of the Holocaust without actually having to expose my mind to witnessing those horrible things visually myself and exposing myself to the horror of war and man's inhumanity to man via Hollywood.)

Society cannot expose itself to the smut, violence, and inappropriate language in many of these films without it continuing to desensitize its citizens.  We have chosen the unpopular path of disconnecting our TV in our home (no cable, dish, or even rabbit ears) simply because we were uncomfortable with the uncertainty of what new inappropriate scene would pop-up on the screen at any given moment.  Two years ago I thought we'd miss it and occasionally we do, but every time we discuss subscribing again and reevaluate our decision we decide we're happier without the TV.

Other parents and teachers may feel differently, but if you look at the actual MPAA rating system "R" rated movies would never be deemed appropriate for middle school aged children.  Permission to see these films should be required even through the high school levels.  If only "clips" are shown in-class they should also be required to be disclosed to parents (and college students) in advance so students and parents can determine if they would like to participate or not.

I am curious to know whey the movie was shown not once but twice.  Was a lesson plan not in place for the sub?  If not, the students sat through a day of school repeating what was already shown....therefore, a day with no eduction!  Talking with parents who have children at this school I now understand this is only problem.  Several other instances have occurred where no action was taking.  I believe the parent who reported the movie had been hitting brick walls. No response was given to her from the principal and when she contact the Supe's Office she was told that they do not handle these issues and referred her back to the principal.  She was not even allowed to leave a voice mail. 

If we do not stand up and support of children's education who will?  I certainly would not allow any of my children to watch this movie at school.  No educational value was provided from watching the movie - either times.  

Another issue at hand is the lack of ethics demonstrated by the sub.  This person called a student a name that is considered by many as and racial slur.   Both the teacher and the sub need a refresher in how important education really is!

For anyone interested, here is a Christian review of Kung Fu Hustle:

http://www.christiananswers...

I disagree that bare buns are a "moral" issue at all, but for parents interested from a Christian point of view, there is a link.

the teacher may have had a quick lapse of judgment, but the parent has gone way overboard! as usual.   I M O 

i have a son that attends that school, i guarantee the playground is almost "X rated ..."  with their convo's ~ and i agree with the others that said, i am sure 'at home' the kid(s) see & hear more ...

everyone needs to CHILL...it is Jr High for petes sake.

I've seen the movie some time back...it's a crack-up....it also has some hidden messages...maybe like a love story---

I see another book banning crisis coming when this kid gets to HS.

Alright goldilox, it sounds like you are one of the reasons we have this issue.  They are middle school age children.  If you want to have your middle schooler watch R-rated movies, then fine, watch it at home.  We are talking about watching R-rated movies in a school classroom, during school hours, when education should be taking place.  If you are a parent who has a child in this school or in this classroom, then you need to be concerned about "why an R-rated movie is being shown in the first place" rather than telling everyone to chill out.  This is not home, this is not the playground, this is not the lunch room.  This a classroom that is led by a teacher, your child's teacher.  Therefore this should raise concern.  If you are telling people to chill out and that it is okay to show R-rated movies during the school day, in a school classroom, then you are part of this problem.  Any by the way, it is not "convo's."  It is conversations.

hahahhahhahaa, everyone must LOVE me ...jealous!

i am ONE of the tons of people on here that agree with  MY OPINION (ps...  IMO = in MY opinion) and THAT my dearie is EXACTLY what BLOGS are  OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS !!!!!!!!!&nb sp; so, if you cant stand being American and  listening to everyones opinions,  then stay off a blog-roll!  SCROLL UP ! McKenna  ... and your soap box is hilarious!

check under your perfect kids' mattress tonight, i am willing to bet you'll find a X rated reading material surprise!

Ima gonna repeat what I posted at the beginning of the blog.  What kids say and do at home isn't the issue here (respects to Goldi)

THIS is what it's about........

"A teacher told an interesting story the other day.  It seems the kids were dropping the F-bomb and when called on the inappropriateness of it they asked "Mister, don't YOU ever say it?"  To which the teacher replied "Yes, I say it all the time in traffic.  But have YOU ever heard me say it?" "

This was a high school teacher.  He also told his classes that what they wear at home and to the mall is irrelevant but that school is a different setting and some clothes are inappropriate for school.  Imagine that!

First, I do not consider myself a "prude" person or have seen "Kung Fu Hustle," but I agree with the mom that the teacher should have not shown six graders a R rated movie.  The district and school can quickly resolve this issue by issuing a statement that teachers must have parent signatures before showing a movie. I am surprised they haven't done so, yet.  

As a substitute teacher, I also believe that the teacher put the substitute teacher into a bad position.  One time I was subbing an elementary special day class and a student brought the movie Big Daddy to school, because the teacher and the instructional assistants told the class they could watch it. I had never seen the movie before, but I am not an Adam Sandler fan so I had a really bad feeling about it. I told the instructional assistants that the students should do worksheets or color instead, but they were insistent about the movie and turned it on. Before they even turned on the movie, students from CSUB Education department came to the room to observe. When the aides turned on the movie, I was completely shocked.  There was so much profanity in the first few minutes. I gave the kids crayons, so they could color and the aides eventually turned off the movie.   

In response to Lingtaowoo:  a love story?  Are you serious?  Okay maybe it does have a hidden message but there are plenty of other "love stories" out there that are NOT R-rated.  

ARE WE ALL LOSING SIGHT OF THIS SITUATION?  Come on people, get with the program.

Pogo's comment "I see another book banning crisis coming when this kid gets to HS" does not even understand what the whole situation is about.  It is not about a book.  It is about showing R-rated movies in a middle school classroom, during school hours, without parent permission.  Now if you are telling us that the parents who are up-in-arms about this will be the same ones who want to ban a book in high school, then I see your point there.  

Everyone is getting way too upset. Honestly, as i stated above ~ the teacher made a bad call.  I really shouldnt have commented at ALL because i have NOT viewed the mentioned movie, so i was out of  line, not knowing it's total contents.

I have raised 4 wonderful kids ... I am tellin' ya, that life itself is SO angry, and the world is SO harmful, that it JUST seemed a BIT over the top to make SUCH a big ordeal out of this. it should not be in the news. period.

there's a war people, 'kids' (our soldiers are DYING in combat) and YOU choose to bring THIS piddly war up, NOW? as our soldiers cant come home for thanksgiving, we are worried about 11 y/o watching a comedy? bad timing, bad call, yes. but COME ON, haha.

that is my point ... chill, there's alot more important horrible things happening TODAY - as we bicker.

i hope the poor kid whos mom brought this up, wont be picked on ... that would be  my concern.

(nancy - i was 'quoting' another post, above mine)

You know what Goldilox, yes Blogs are about stating your opinion.  And that is what I did.  Opinions are also about not assuming that every kid has seen an R-rated movie, or that every parent lets their kid watch them, or throw around expletive language.  You assume that I have perfect children.  And you assume that my perfect children have a mattress.  Well I looked under my "fur children's" mattress and found his dog toys.  And I looked under my cats mattress (the bed they sleep upon) and found catnip.  My wife and I can't have children so my perfect kids spend time sleeping and watching the passersby from the screen door, not watching R-rated movies in a school classroom.