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TraceyS - > Domestic CEO of Household Affairs -> Do all politicians wear makeup?
Do all politicians wear makeup?

I've been watching the Vice President debate tonight. I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for when the big day comes. I won't even disclose what party I'm registered. I can say, that I feel more confused tonight than before.

As for Sarah Palin, I feel like she started the debate on a negative note. Which then I feel lead the tone for the entire debate. A barrage of negativity. Sarah walked on stage, waved at the crowd, then blew them a kiss. Well it was with that hand she shook Senator Joe Biden's hand and asked, can I call you Joe? Then she looked away back to the crowd. Waving to crowd upon the approach to her podium. Um, yeah,it's not a beauty pageant with your figure eight wave lady. And who wants to shake a hand with lips all over them. Hello, we are approaching flu season. Although he lips are pretty. I did like her mom approach to most of her debate. Oh and of course I like her makeup. Her lips and eyes were accented with a beautiful color display. Maybe I can call her for make-up and beauty tips? She was very poised. I wonder if she can carry books on her head and walk a straight line. On a side note, what is "dog gone it"? "Dog gone it" vote for me? She seems very sweet. Can she run the country though is the country.

I like Joe Biden's experience and he is well presented. In fact, he made me choke up when he talked about what it's like to be a hard working family sitting around the kitchen table. He pulled at my heart strings. I don't think it was fake emotion. However, I think all politicians do take drama classes. The biggest thing I don't like about Joe Biden is he wants to tax the heck out of the upper class. I don't think that's fair. Because someone works hard and see financial successes they would be penalized. It should be evenly distributed in my opinion. Who knows what he says is true. He's a politician for crying out loud! he too had nice make-up on. Although the color was a little dark for his skin tone. Thus didn't match his scalp seen through his thinning hair.

Just a thought. I'm middle class. I'm a mom. I have a career. I wanted to be 7th grade class president. I'm a leader. I'm organized. I love the make-up counter. Sometimes I'm neurotic and crazy. I'm analytical. Always ask why. I think of alternatives after my morning coffee. I like my spices and my CDs to be in alphabetical order. I've never had braces. But I have whitened my teeth. Everything else is real. VOTE FOR ME. I would like to be considered Vice President of the United States.

Posted in these Groups: Family & Home, Politics
Topics: vice president, joe biden, sarah palin, debate, election, Vice President Debate, presidential, dog gone it
posted by TraceyS on Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 09:31 PM
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posted by mattloch on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:37 PM

Wow. Joe Biden playing to your emotions, and Sarah Palin winning your "poise" contest.
 

Tough contest.

This year may be one decided by the Vice picks. Not for you, but for some.

It sounds like a draw for you. Until you get into the voting booth.

So... do you vote with your head, or your heart? Which do you think best represents your best interests?

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:39 PM

Obama/Biden will ensure that 4 years from now we still have a middle class.

posted by ApolloDawn on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:42 PM

"Dog gone it" is a regional way of saying "dagnabbit" or "dad gum it."

I have a nice smile, perfect teeth, long brown hair with natural gray streaks that look salon-done.  Oh!  And a D-cup.

I might run in 2012.

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:47 PM

One of my biggest heros, Mr. Bobby Bowden, head coach of Florida State's football team, and the 2nd (and most of the time 1st) most winngest coach in college ball, will say "dad gum it" when we're playing a p*ss poor game..

posted by witbee on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:55 PM

Do you really think Biden has sat at the kitchen table to make those decisions in the last 50 years?

Given your snide comments, it seems your mind is indeed made up. Especially if you were choked up by Biden's ridiculous story.

It was Biden's debate to lose and he did by far.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM

witbee - why are you so angry all the time?

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Green eyed monsters hangin out  in here..

posted by vanityfair on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:16 PM

FSG ... Why do you assign emotions to fellow bloggers? Your perception. You've accused me of being "angry" , and have done the same for others here. Witbee isn't angry ... he's voicing an opinion.

 

posted by Shwaine on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Why wouldn't a politician sit at the kitchen table to make decisions. It's not as if they all sit at their desks for everything. Even though the desk image does give rise to all sorts of parodies of cackling politicians a la Mr. Burns from The Simpsons.

posted by Smurfette on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM

Well from what I've learned pretty and smart only get you so far.  The rest requires experience.  Palin just does not have what it takes.

posted by AudreyB on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:54 AM

Witbee

Why don't you take Biden at his word?  Would you take Palin at hers if she'd made the same statement?

 It confirms by belief that we measure a politician's honesty by a scale of whether they agree with us.

posted by gsisola on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:11 AM

Now there is an oxymoron if I have ever heard one - "politician's honesty"... Is it correct to use both of those words in the same sentence?

posted by gsisola on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:22 AM

Ah FSG... one of my all time favorite lines... or joke if you will - "dad gum it", cause Dad didn't have any teeth.

posted by TraceyS on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:11 AM

mattloch I vote with my head.  I lay out the issues and determine what's most important to me and my family.  Then I match my positions on my weighted issues to those of the presidential candidates.

ApolloDawn Sounds to me you may be qualified for 2012. :)  It just may be possible many of us have more experience than Palin. Maybe not Governor but I govern my house.  I govern my bank account.  I govern the food my daughter eats. 

FloridaStateGrad I think "dad gum it" is funny too.  I can appreciate regional use of expressions. Thanks for sharing.

witbee My mind isn't made up. 

Shwaine sometimes I sit at my desk to look important. Not sure it works.  I also believe great decisions can also be made over food at the table.

Smurfette I agree looks only get you so far.  And she is inexperienced. 

gsisola funny.

posted by witbee on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:30 AM

 witbee - why are you so angry all the time?

I can't remember the last time I was angry. Why are you always so pompous?

 

Why don't you take Biden at his word?  Would you take Palin at hers if she'd made the same statement?

What was his word? He was talking about sitting at the klitchen table WITH HIS DAD making a tough decision. I assume that was a whole lotta years ago.

For the record, I assume ALL politicians stretch the truth to fit their argument.

 

On a side note, it seems Palin's beauty is actually becoming a negative in some circles. Maybe she needs to go to Dr. Shaw and ask for the "prune-faced pant suit" look so she can be taken seriously.

posted by imiller996 on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:16 AM

I'm new but has anyone cosidered that  Obama doesn't have any more  experience than Palin ? How long has he been in the Senate? What did he do before that?

posted by randomfactor on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:21 AM

Hint:  He was never the mayor of a town the size of Oildale, if that's what you're fishing for.  He's also not quite as experienced as Palin in witness tampering or perjury.

posted by imiller996 on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:42 AM

The question was how long has Obama been in the Senate, and what did he do before that

posted by VirgilAnderson on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:51 AM

It confirms by belief that we measure a politician's honesty by a scale of whether they agree with us."

Nail-on-the-head!

Especially, national campaigns - issues of electability are about identity.

--virgil

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:05 AM

 I'm new but has anyone cosidered that  Obama doesn't have any more  experience than Palin ? How long has he been in the Senate? What did he do before that?

Obama has a law degree from Harvard, where he was also president of the highly acclaimed Harvard Law Review.  He's spent time as a community organizer (which actually takes a lot of administrative know-how) & civil rights attorney.  He spent 12 years (1992-2004) teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School and also served on the IL State Senate from 1997-2004.  He's been a U.S. Senator since 2004, and while he has spent a considerable amount of that time campaigning for the White House, he has been a key figure in pushing legislation on issues ranging from U.S. veterans issues to terrorism and electoral fraud issues.

 

Are people really believing that he has less ability to lead than Palin, who has a degree in Journalism, which I might add took her 5+ years to obtain because she kept dropping out.  Since then, she's been a tv sports reporter for a local news station and did some administrative work for her husband's fishing business.   She's served as mayor of Wasilla... which is only twice the population of the high school I graduated from.  She lost a bid at Alaska Lt. Gov, but then ran for and won the Governership. 

 

I give Palin a lot of credit for her determination - that's extremely important for a leader to have.  However, I think she's not strong enough on the issues to be considered for the position of VPOTUS.  Last night's debate proved this, as time and time again, Sarah Palin continuously dodged questions and created her own path - a sure sign that she does not have a good enough grasp on key issues pertaining to our Federal system.

posted by witbee on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Obama has a law degree from Harvard,

Palin, who has a degree in Journalism

See, you still think what people did in college means a whole lot. I know plenty of people who went to good colleges that are complete morons. They are just morons who can memorize well. You know that most employers don't care where you went to college? It's true. I once got a job over a guy with a PhD from an ivy league university becasue of one thing: experience. He had spent 30 years in industry, I had spent 5 years doing the actual job. The guy was bright, but I was better suited. That is what it comes down to for me.

 

posted by ProgressivePete2 on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Me too witbee, I'm happy that Obama has both qualities. He's smarter and better suited for the job. 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM

 See, you still think what people did in college means a whole lot. I know plenty of people who went to good colleges that are complete morons. They are just morons who can memorize well.

It still does mean quite a bit to have a college education, especially as the years progress.  More and more jobs are requiring education beyond a high school diploma/GED. 

As far as someone college educated being a moron, it's my personal belief that every person, college educated or not, has their own special gifts and talents.  It's quite possible that the people you've met are talented in areas where you are not, and you are talented in areas where they are not.  To sit there and label them as morons is an unfair statement.  I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't like someone to call you a moron.

 

You know that most employers don't care where you went to college?

It all depends on what the job is.  As it pertains to such careers as law, it can make a big difference where you obtained your education.  For jobs like the one I have in sales, you're right, it doesn't matter.

 

It's true. I once got a job over a guy with a PhD from an ivy league university becasue of one thing: experience. He had spent 30 years in industry, I had spent 5 years doing the actual job. The guy was bright, but I was better suited. That is what it comes down to for me.

Once again, it all depends on what the job is - what are the requirements.  For those positions where knowing the ins and outs of the specific job itself are most important, those who have experience in the trenches will get the job, such as in your case.  However, we're not debating about the average American career - we're talking about who we want to be President and Vice President of our country.  I still have yet to be given any credible argument of how Palin has more to offer to the American people.  Obama and Biden both have experience and knowledge of how our Federal Government works.  I wonder, could Sarah Palin give us a basic overview of the legal procedures of this country?  Does she have a good grasp on Executive powers?  I really don't think she fully understands the way our constitution has set up our government.  This is not to say that she's stupid, or willfully ignorant; however, at this present moment, she does not have the qualifications, nor the comprehension to effectively lead our country.  Give her some time, and she just might be able to sport such understanding (though I'd admittingly cringe at the idea of her being in so high a position), but she's not there yet.

posted by jfrancais on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:23 PM

  I once got a job over a guy with a PhD from an ivy league university becasue of one thing: experience.

A Ph.D qualifies you to teach and do research in a specific field, nothing more.

posted by jfrancais on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:34 PM

I have a nice smile, perfect teeth, long brown hair with natural gray streaks that look salon-done.  Oh!  And a D-cup.

I might run in 2012

D-cup? Now that's addressing the issue(s)! You've got my vote. Do you need a campaign manager?

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