The usual canard....It's all Bush's fault.

You could have saved yourself all that writing.

Don't forget Dick Chaney...he's probally sitting in some bomb shelter somewhere rolling a couple of ball-bearings in one hand while telling some writer the great things he did while in office--all the while muttering..." they'll be sorry...you'll see....."

YAWN!  Oh, sorry I nodded of reading this blather. For the life of me I cannot understand libs.  When they're out of power, they complain.  When they're in power, they complain.  Here's an idea:  get out of politics altogether and then maybe, maybe, you can find some happiness.  Vomiting up a boring treatise on your feelings about Karl Rove is just pathetic.  Try some hobbies like knitting or woodcrafts or jigsaw puzzles - anything!

We knew he was unprepared, as HIllary said.  Every day he proves it.

Karl Rove.  OMG.  Oh yeah!  He's the political hack who interfered in the investigation of the Black Panthers that were intimidating voters, isn't he. 

Sorry.  Dragging out Rove, Cheney, Bush, or even Rumsfeld isn't going to distract America any longer from the real damage being done by the current President and Congress. 

Wow. It's nearly 2am and I can't sleep so I thought I would check out some blogs that I missed earlier. I wish I never found this one, if only for these words: No one on the right trusts Barack Obama.

Really? NO ONE ON THE RIGHT TRUSTS BARACK OBAMA? Talk about extremes.

Adampayne, see my comments on your comrade dirtyshirt's blog, unless he deleted it which wouldn't surprise me. No need to repeat it here.

You people are the ones fueling the polarization.

FWIW, I don't give a flying rat's ass about Karl Rove and never have. You, though, spend a whole lot of time thinking about him, I guess. 

I didn't mention Bush, because it was not the George Bush election strategy, Ron. The story I linked to is an AP story on the release of documents showing how involved Rove was in pursuing a strictly partisan policy and using the powers of US Attorneys in a purley partisan manner. Most Americans understand what happened, which is why they voted out the Republicans in 2006, and even more forcefully in 2008.

What we see today with the disruptions and fear mongering demonstrations at Health Care meetings is the result of the Rove formula. People on the left are not painting  swastikas on Congressmen's offices, nor are they the ones shouting the talk radio fed propoganda to drown out meaningful dialog. People cannot even talk with another. Your comments here (Ron, learnem, savvydude and vanityfair) all demonstrate how poorly your reading comprehension is because you have been polarized into blindness and deafness.

I have been watching David Halberstam's exceptional documentary, The Fifties. Not much about the Republican Party tactics has changed  since then. The Party of McCatrthyism with attacks on Democrats for  being commie sympathizers and or socialists are just as vile and unfounded today as they were when they were first used to stir up the mob mentality of paranoid little people. 

It is not the left fueling polarization, it is the propoganda machine of distortions and lies on right-wing radio everyday fueling hatred and stopping rational discourse. Facts never stand in the way of the conservative attack machine.  

MOST conservative Americans behave like wild west cowboys who think they're entitled to cram their yee haw conservatism down the throats of anyone who doesn't agree with them.  They are blind to any opinion to their own.  They're deaf to any voice but their own.  And most importantly, they're stupid because they think this "still"  works. 

Funny Audrey, I'm a conservative American and I don't see it that way, although most conservaitves feel the same way about Liberals cramming their beliefs down others throats.  I'm also not to keen on being called stupid because of my believes.  Someone here recently made a facetious post about how the Democrats/Liberals consider Conservatives stupid, and ignorant because they don't believe as the Liberals do.  Seems you've just proved that point.

Generalizations like that don't help anyone or foster any common ground discussion.

Audrey, we agree on so many things outside politics that we could have been raised together.  So many of the same life experiences.  I understand that it wasn't a personal comment but I took it personally.   My response was in a political sense and unfortunately politics can cause harsh feelings at time.

I don't think any of us stop to think that remarks made in a political sense can be darts thrown at friends and family with whom we disagree without that being the intention.  Apologies on my part although my response stands as I'm sure yours does as well.

Nancy I changed my post.  I don't like generalization either and I usually catch myself before using them.

My reference is to what's been taking place in the town hall meetings on health care.  Since when did it become OK for audience members to disrupt and shout down the very people they invited to speak?   What are they afraid of hearing, the truth? 

You must admit that this style of rude behavior has become common for conservatives since the campaign last fall.  Remember the shouts of "die" that were made to Obama as he spoke at rallies.  And the silly old lady at the McCain campaign stop who was indoctrinated to believe that Obama is a Muslim.  Give me a break. 

This kind of behavior will either burn out because most people are too intelligent or well behaved to listen to it and will give it the "pass"  it deserves.  Or it will become the norm.  God, pity us if that happens.

Nancy--as you know, my husband is a Conservative Republican, so I really shouldn't make broad generalizations about Conservatives or Republicans, and I try my best not to, and usually succeed.  It would be unfair to paint all Conservative Republicans with the same brush.  I have no doubt, for example, that you don't need someone to help you find your keys and sunglasses every day and that you don't sneak into the kitchen and eat all of the ice cream before other people can have some.  Conversely, I'm willing to bet you can't lay tile as magnificently as my husband does, and I highly doubt that you have as much patience as he does to play with little green army men hour after hour.

Not all conservatives are the same, and not all liberals are the same.  Period.  I think you guys can recognize that there are some more left-leaning liberals on these blogs than others, and I can recognize that there are some more right-leaning conservatives on these blogs than others.  Some conservatives are more interested in economic policy.  Some are more interested in the pro-life movement, or the marriage-equality issue, and are really not interested in other aspects of politics.  It's the same with liberals. 

As for Karl Rove, I am firmly convinced that he is a total creep, but I also don't think that all conservatives think like he does, or even care what he says, to be honest.  I know that my husband doesn't care what he says or does--my husband is a conservative whose prime interest is the preservation of the constitution and especially the bill of rights, and especially the preservation of the first and second ammendments.  He was most recently concerned with the confirmation of Sonia Sotomayor, and now that that's over with, he'll probably go back to doing whatever else he does--primarily pestering me to death.  ; )

I have to laugh when I hear Democrats complain about the passionate opposition to their health care schemes at these town hall meetings.  In 2005, when President Bush was trying to save Social Security, the Democrat opposition was organized and oppressive. Here. 

[Rick Santorum] was among dozens of members of Congress who ran gantlets of demonstrators and shouted over hecklers at Social Security events last month. Many protesters were alerted by e-mails and bused in by anti-[Bush] organizations such as MoveOn.org and USAction, a liberal advocacy group. They came with prepared questions and instructions on how to confront lawmakers.      &nb sp; 

It worked for the Democrats then.  A passionate, vociforous opposition is working for America now.

Protests erupt over California Prop 8 ruling    http://socialistworker.org/...

Police, demonstrators clash at Prop. 8 protest http://articles.latimes.com...

Massive march to protest US migratory reform http://en.mercopress.com/20...

Thousands of students walk out of schools in Southern California to protest anti-immigration legislation http://www.wsws.org/article...

In 2005, when President Bush was trying to save Social Security, the Democrat opposition was organized and oppressive.

Thank Zeus for that.   Shrub was at that time trying the "Vietnam strategy" (the one he avoided earlier by deserting from TANG) of "destroying Social Security in order to save it."

The Democrats never disrupted Bush's staged town-hall meetings, of course.  Just showed up and participated.

 Obama buses in supporters for New Hampshire town hall this week.

And thank aunt zootie for the internet, that gives us the opportunity to hear about his scams.

Good for him.  Lots of people who have been bankrupted by health-care costs would otherwise have been unable to attend.

Scams? Yeah, I guess since you can get a web address for under $10, you can read a whole lot of stuff about Obama.

Drilnliftcrude, that comment is LOL funny! If Social Security had been saved (as you put it) by the last Administration, and privatized into the stock market 99% of elder Americans would not have pot to pee into today. You just keep sticking up for all those Wall Street manipulators and corporate robber barons you continue to endorse. I have to admit their tenacity to steal all the money for themselves deserves a tip of the hat.