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axiomtek - > LIBERTY OR DEATH -> Prop 8? Atheism? Taxes? Viruses?
Prop 8? Atheism? Taxes? Viruses?

I do plan on posting more blog entries defending my ideas and opposing those ideas such I find false. [edit.]

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I also love discussing politics, philosophy, economics, and religion so if any of you just want to have a discussion/debate about something in that category you’re free to call me anytime as well. I’m absolutely open to anyone who just wants to have a little debate.

 

Here is a small list of things I believe and enjoy defending.

 

  1. Racial/Gender discrimination laws are unneeded and immoral
  2. Price Gouging should be legal and results in good.
  3. Free Market capitalism is just and results in the greatest good for the greatest number
  4. Minimum wage laws do no good and hurt poor people.
  5. Torture can be just.
  6. All taxation should be abolished and replaced with a consumption tax (FairTax [HR25])
  7. Outsourcing jobs and importing goods & services makes us richer, and attempting to stop it is fascist and inconsistent with a free society.
  8. Eminent domain is wrong.
  9. Not everyone should vote.
  10.  Barack Obama does not “believe” in the American people
  11.  Barack Obama will not & cannot cut taxes for 95% of the population.
  12.  The Bible is false
  13.  There most probably is not a god
  14. There is no good reason to believe a god exists
  15.  Objective value is an oxymoron.
  16. There is no purpose to life
  17.  We do have freewill even though determinism is true.
  18.  Christianity is anti-American
  19.  It’s good to press your beliefs on others
  20.  Metaphysical Naturalism is true.
  21.  Answering the question “Why is there something rather than nothing” is easy.
  22.  There most probably is no soul
  23.  There most probably is no afterlife
  24.  I believe everything I believe is true, and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

 

This is a short list of a few views I personally hold to. I of course only listed those which I think most people will disagree with. If you’re interested in debating me on any of these issues give me a call. [edit.]

 

 

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posted by axiomtek on Sunday, October 26, 2008 at 09:21 PM
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posted by gopherbro on Oct 26, 2008 at 09:47 PM

Well, it looks like there is something in Axiom's list to annoy each and every one of us regulars. I suggest we fasttrack the inevitable. Lets invite him to Jastro Park, barbeque him, and eat him.  It seems like the quickest way to take care of the problem.

posted by TheSpartanofAuburn on Oct 26, 2008 at 09:59 PM

I do enjoy the taste of people.

And my Dell sucks, so.... TWO BIRDS, ONE STONE!

 

posted by axiomtek on Oct 26, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Sounds good.

posted by Ray_Harwick on Oct 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Don't you have beliefs that are provisional or are you just baiting us with question #24? As a skeptic I get more than a little worried about people who claim to know the truth, but holding a truth as provisional makes sense.

 

posted by mattloch on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:22 PM

25. Monopolies naturally result from a free market, and will destroy capitalism.
26. Slavery was abolished not by the free market, but by government intervention.

posted by ghostriter on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:35 PM

 Price Gouging should be legal and results in good

...results in good profits for one by taking advantage of the misfortune of many.  That really sucks. HOWEVER....I must agree on the following: 5, 6, 8, 9,12,13, and 14. And if you want a political/religious catfight, this blog forum is the perfect place to find it.

posted by gopherbro on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM

How about this one:

27. If there is an Anti-Christ, his name is Bill Gates.

posted by Traveler22 on Oct 27, 2008 at 07:23 AM

.13- at least not as presented to us by orginized religion


.14-There is no good reason to not believe a god supreme being of some sort exists

.16- yet to be seen

posted by OjoReal on Oct 27, 2008 at 07:37 AM

Gopherbro --  Your first comment reminded me of the two cannibals who were eating a clown.  One said to the other, "Does this taste funny to you?"

posted by axiomtek on Oct 27, 2008 at 08:47 AM

 Don't you have beliefs that are provisional or are you just baiting us with question #24? As a skeptic I get more than a little worried about people who claim to know the truth, but holding a truth as provisional makes sense.

I agree, I never claimed to know anything, i said believe.

results in good profits for one by taking advantage of the misfortune of many.

It does, and thats good.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 27, 2008 at 09:20 AM

axiom, as we discussed in person a number of weeks ago at Cataldos, many of your theories and ideas come directly out of textbooks and do not account for the human element.

posted by axiomtek on Oct 27, 2008 at 09:36 AM

I dont know what you mean, explain.


posted by jlocke on Oct 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM

It means that you are not accounting for human nature. All things being equal capitalism creates a free market which in turn will regulate itself. EXCEPT that as people earn more money, they tend to hoard it, which prevents it from affecting the economy. Rich people want to be richer, and as they become so their actions take away possible income for the poor.

posted by Ray_Harwick on Oct 28, 2008 at 01:05 PM

 I agree, I never claimed to know anything, i said believe.

I'll check my dictionary to see if there is a substantial difference between a belief and a truth.  For example, fundamentalist Christians take the view that what they believe ***is*** the truth. And the down side of that is that they don't hold that belief/truth  provisionally. Their belief will *always* be true. That is why it took the Catholic Church several centuries to understand that the earth revolved around the sun. The truth conflicted with their believe, so they created an alternative truth that was unalterable.

So, it may seem somehow noble to think that if you believe something that those who don't believe as you do are wrong, yet your premise may be flawed. You may be believing something that is patently untrue whether you can accept it or not. That you are capable of believing an untrue thing to be true does not negate it's falseness.  The more sensible position to take is *always* to hold belief/truth provisionally. Many of your beliefs will endure for your lifetime when no better explanation can surpass them, but for those beliefs that are, indeed, bested by a better explanation, you lose if you don't embrace the better reality.

posted by thegrumpyskeptic on Oct 31, 2008 at 05:35 PM

Well Husband Material, I agree BOO any form of religion. and Axiomtek I do have a busted laptop with probably a busted motherboard. if you can fix it under 500 bucks then you'll have yourself a deal, now to deal with the long laundry-list, since I'm  bored and at work here we go!

1) I agree any laws that discriminate against anyone for any reason are bad mmmmmk. It tears down the very thing we little humans are trying to build a happy, and peaceful life.

2) Price gouging should be legal!! What! you must be crazy or love paying $4.50/per gallon of gas I enjoy the $2.70/per gallon, even if the companies are still making record profits! It's really sad that you believe that taking full advantage of the less wealthy. Mainly your fellow country men and fellow man, is OK? you need to revise your position or at least explain why?

3) We've seen the result of a "free" market, and the subsequent things that have happened like the Great Depression, the housing market and the near collapse of the world markets. and the Taxpayers having to pay for excessive greed. How is that good?To let one group of people subdue another group? Hm-mm do you hate the human race? and your country?

4.)Generally I agree the minimum wage increases inflation, because companies aren't gonna pay more to workers and just take a hit on profit out of the goodness of their hearts, so they'll charge us the consumers more. At this time I cannot agree or disagree I'm too ignorant of the subject and need much much more study to make a good argument.

5.)Torture (in my opinion) can never be just. We are all humans on this earth, in fact there is no other life in our solar system, and the only life we have detected in our galaxy. We are very rare creatures in the great cosmic void, and you say torture to your fellow man can be justified? HUH? With every question it just seems like you have great displeasure with your fellow man

6.)I enjoy less taxes as all the other blokes, but have you seen our countries infrastructure? Our health care? Our poor military families (which I was one)? As much as I like to keep my money, I know nothing is free if I want to live in the best country in the world, I gotta pay lol, arrrggg taxes the necessary evil.

7.) I don't care too much about outsourcing (I will admit I am ignorant of the issue) if companies choose to do that fine, I wish they would stay and provide American jobs but sometimes the best for me isn't the best for someone else

8.) No Idea what Eminent Domain is with the work Internet I can't do much searching.

9.) Not everyone votes, actually I think your on to something republicans shouldn't vote, lol seriously the comment makes little sense

10.)What do you mean by your comment? I have no Idea what idea you're trying to get across

11.) You're probably right he probably can't cut taxes for 95% of the population, whats your point? What are you trying to get across? Little more cohesion please

12.) Yes the bible is mostly false, it has some good stories of morality we can LEARN from but that's about it

13.)Again you are correct there probably is no such thing as a "god" in any form. There is no strong evidence, so until my ungodly wife is turned into a pillar of salt ill wait for some proof. I would still be a little skeptical of the salt though

14) There is no "GOOD" reason you are correct again.

15) meh, so is a logical christian no real value in the comment though (but a low blow I must admit)

16) I disagree there is a purpose in life, to pass on our GENES! to make the earth a better place for humanity, to ensure the survival of our species, an for a grumpy one like me, to love and be loved. My purpose is to love my wife and children, and hopefully feel their love.

17) I don't know what determinism is, but yes we do have free will, there is no ghost in the machines telling us what to do. Well we haven't found one and there is no reason to believe there is one

18) Yes Christianity is anti-American. any group of people who will not tolerate and embrace another for whatever reason is anti American, not only Christians, but all religions, and economical doctrines do this, and they're all anti American.

19.) maybe, it's good to discuss your beliefs, then I can re evaluate what and why i believe what I do if I can get another persons perspective on the i issue

20.) NO

21.) so whats the easy answer? You say it's easy but provide nothing to back up your claim? was Sarah Palin your teacher? LOL It's rather complicated even if you understand quantum mechanics and Symmetry theory

22.)correct no reason to believe such a silly notion

23.)correct ditto the above reason

24.) Nah you're wrong, but i catch a hint of sarcasm, or narcissism, either way you can be wrong no matter what you believe. wait are you a scientologist?

hope you enjoy the really long entry it was fun for me to write

 

posted by axiomtek on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:45 AM

1)     I agree any laws that discriminate against anyone for any reason are bad mmmmmk. It tears down the very thing we little humans are trying to build a happy, and peaceful life.

 

You misunderstand. Not laws that discriminate, laws against discrimination. You can’t deny someone a job because they are Mexican. Those laws are inconsistent with a free society & often self-contradictory.

 

2)     Price gouging should be legal!! What! you must be crazy or love paying $4.50/per gallon of gas I enjoy the $2.70/per gallon, even if the companies are still making record profits! It's really sad that you believe that taking full advantage of the less wealthy. Mainly your fellow country men and fellow man, is OK? you need to revise your position or at least explain why?

 

First, it’s fallacious to say that since I am against the criminalization of something I am therefore in favor of it. I am against the criminalization of cigarettes but that does not equate to me being ‘for cigarettes’ or ‘love of smoking.’ In short, high prices often reduce demand and therefore give consumers incentives to use less of something. Higher prices also gives supplies more of an incentive to provide to consumers. I am willing to go into detail if you request. I want to briefly respond to some of your comments.

 

3)     We've seen the result of a "free" market, and the subsequent things that have happened like the Great Depression, the housing market and the near collapse of the world markets. and the Taxpayers having to pay for excessive greed. How is that good?To let one group of people subdue another group? Hm-mm do you hate the human race? and your country?

 

First, the claim that the great depression was ‘caused’ by freedom is one ive never heard defended. Second, the ‘housing market’ is the result of the free market? What does that mean? You must mean the housing market bubble bursting. The government is highly in the housing market, and as you may know there was regulation forcing banks to loan to certain risky groups. Again, this is another debate I’m happy to get into. The bailout is socialism and has nothing to do with free market economics.

 

4.)Generally I agree the minimum wage increases inflation, because companies aren't gonna pay more to workers and just take a hit on profit out of the goodness of their hearts, so they'll charge us the consumers more. At this time I cannot agree or disagree I'm too ignorant of the subject and need much much more study to make a good argument.

 

Honest answer.

5.)Torture (in my opinion) can never be just. We are all humans on this earth, in fact there is no other life in our solar system, and the only life we have detected in our galaxy. We are very rare creatures in the great cosmic void, and you say torture to your fellow man can be justified? HUH? With every question it just seems like you have great displeasure with your fellow man

 

Answer this question – If 911 could have been prevented by dunking a self-proclaimed terrorist in water, would you be oppose to that? All of my positions are for the my fellow man and his freedom.

 

posted by axiomtek on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM

Please respond.


posted by NancyII on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Axio, ignoring the fact that you're committing a TOS violation by advertising here...what can you do for my 6 year old desktop that's running like it has molasses in it's chips?

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