Case closed.

City beat,

I think I read your article twice tight now and i thank you for posting it, I just think it shows biased facts and incomplete truths. I could be wrng but I am going to do a little research and will post a response to this, if anyone care to read it, I should be done tomorrow.

BS,

I suppose I could argue that All Truth is Incomplete. But I look forward to seeing your response.

You should Superman. I'd like to hear all angles.

"Biased facts?!" How can be facts be biased?

Oh, wait, I see who posted that little gem.

Looks to me like the only thing Weir did that is according to Hoyle is refunding a campaign contribution that he was unaware he couldn't accept. Funny how that sort of thing keeps happening to the guy.

I also find it odd that, a group of people with common interests, common concerns, common benefits and common cause come together and form an organization--such as the Young Republicans--that that is okay, but if they call it a union, it isn't.

" I think I read your article twice tight now ..."

Try reading while sober. It'll help.

The facts have a well-known liberal bias, noone.  You know that.

Can you summarize, James?  I could sit here and read legalese, but I really, really don't want to.

The first link is to my story. That's about as summary as I'm willing to get.

Oh.  Hehe.  I missed that link.  Thanks, James.

Good story, by the way.

Actually, come to think of it, BakersfieldSuperman has a point.

The issues that I chose for this piece are only the ones that are addressed in the proponents' piece and Weir's response. For the most part, these issues were chosen by Weir's opponents, and he responded to them. He's forced to play defense, limited to 200 words.

He does get in a little bit of philosophical point at the top, and I didn't address that — it's been addressed, it will be addressed, and it doesn't fit in a piece like this.

And I'm not limited in my word count like they both were. They had 200 words. I had as much as I could get my boss to let me have.

But when it comes to "incomplete truths," that was really for the politicians. The proponents, for example, got one fact wrong — that Downs was a paying client. Weir jumped on that in his response, with an incomplete truth. My job was to point out that he's right, but...

Good representation of the facts, "city." 

Even though the campaign use of the "seal" in question was not specifically the City Seal, it appeared to be so unless carefully examined, and went out to several thousand households.  And, even though Weir's business relationship's with Kapral, Todd and Downs had been officially terminated their personal connections went on.  And, when we view the pre-election evasive responses that Weir gave with respect to his recently declared approval (City Council statement after being served with the notice to recall,May 7th) of the Canyons project (without Hillside constraints and City interference) and his disdain for the Hillside ordinance, it tells us the real reason behind his effort to "fire" Russell Johnson.  He doesn't like Mike Maggard and what Mike did in facilitating the Hillside ordinance.  Then having failed in the railroading of Johnson, he sought to change the planning commission appointment ordinance.  That failed, too.  But all of that was Weir's concerted effort to get rid of the City-Council approved Hillside ordinance to open the door for General Holding to proceed carte blanche'.  If only the voters in the third ward had really known about Weir's special interests and agenda, I wonder if he would have been elected.

Great job citybeat! Fact Check would be proud of you!

Thanks very much, citybeat, for the concise information and links! I certainly do not understand the vitriol aimed at you for simply informing the public about the ongoing Weir dilemma.

nooneisabovethelaw said: I also find it odd that, a group of people with common interests, common concerns, common benefits and common cause come together and form an organization--such as the Young Republicans--that that is okay, but if they call it a union, it isn't

As far as I know, the Young Republican group does not receive their pay from us taxpayers, as the City and County unions do.  Therefore, your point is moot.  We elect our City and County representatives to safeguard the money we give them, and to spend it wisely.

Oh, and Young Republican membership is voluntary -- whereas you MUST join the union if you work for various City/County agencies.

Nice try, noone -- trying to put the Young Republicans and the unions in the same boat.

Unless of course you were hired as an employee when it was an open shop. Then you don't even have to pay the representation fee.

lincolnman1860

As far as I know, the Young Republican group does not receive their pay from us taxpayers, as the City and County unions do.  Therefore, your point is moot.  We elect our City and County representatives to safeguard the money we give them, and to spend it wisely.

Lincolnman, we are all taxpayers here; even the so called union members.The Unions do not work for the City/County agencies, their members do. The unions do not get any money from tax payers, their City/County agencies do. Get your facts straight.

Oh, and Young Republican membership is voluntary -- whereas you MUST join the union if you work for various City/County agencies.

You are also mistaken here.

If you knew what you were talking about, which you obviously don't, you would know that "union membership" is not a MUST for "City/County employees."  

Unions exist to protect employee rights, to negotiate on the behalf of the employees and provide legal protection in the case of public safety for civil law suits. The union members live, work, are injured or killed while serving the public, both Republican and Democrat alike. When you make uninformed, inaccurate statements maligning your public employees, you simply are attacking the good men and women who serve and protect your community.

If it's so good, there are lots of openings all of the time. Hustle yourself down to the County Admin building or City Hall and put in your application.

Typical of what passes for conservative "thought": liberal bad, conservative good. Organization good, union bad. Me Tarzan, you Jane. Sheesh.

Noone...glad to see you got it right for a change.  :-)