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citybeat - > City Beat -> Recaller shoots back at Weir
Recaller shoots back at Weir

As you regular blog readers already knew, the deadline for the Ken Weir recall to make it onto the November ballot has come and gone, leaving the recallers to work toward a March 3 election.

“Mr. Winn and others have not been honest or forthright throughout this entire process so it is no surprise that they would not honor their own June 30th deadline,” Weir said.

Will Winn did not explicitly use the words "pot" or "kettle" in his response today, but he came close:

We never set a deadline of June 30th for the recall as Weir incorrectly (disinformationally) states.  We merely understood that if we were to make the fall election we would need to submit the required number of signatures to Pam McCarthy by the end of June.  That was what we hoped to do.  But as for any deadline, we have, by law, 120 days from the approval of the petition to collect signatures, or until about the end of September (I think it's actually October 1).  That's the deadline.
 
As for Weir, his arrogance and condescension would try to demean us by declaring that we will not honor a deadline for the recall that we never set.  I'm sure he hoped (without good sense) that we would somehow stop the effort to recall him if we didn't make the goal of 4108 signatures  in three weeks!  If that had happened some folks would have been collecting "tar, feathers and a rail!" 
 
Of course, our group would have never let that happen.
 
By the way, Weir's statement that he has received an overwhelming positive response to his mailing is not being affirmed by our personal contact with Ward 3 voters.  A very small group of people have told us they would not sign because they support him.  My wife and I have had 7 out of several hundred to whom we have spoken who specifically stated support for Weir.  My other walkers have stated the same thing.  And, many have voluntarily said they had very unsatisfactory (some very angry) contact and/or no help from him concerning a wide range of important issues/problems.  He has obviously measured his importance by the rubber-stamping of the BRA and Young Republicans (before whom I was never given opportunity to address), and the few development-and-growth-machine special interests he has surrounding him.
 
The important question to ask is: What has Ken Weir done for this Ward since he was elected in 2006?  I haven't heard one positive thing from anyone, unless you want to allow his personal declarations of being "pro-family, pro-private-property rights, and fiscally conservative."  All of these have no substance when you really see what he has , or better, has not done to help and represent the people of the third ward. 
 
In other words, our contact with voters in the Third Ward shows he has very little "confidence and continued support" from the 20,431+ voters of Ward 3.
 
By the way, Weir has said that he won the 2006 election with an "overwhelming  majority" of the voters of Ward 3 against two little or unknown candidates.  The truth is that he garnered 5897 of the 11,364 votes cast, or 51.9%.  His vote percentage with respect to the total number of registered voters in Ward 3 would have been ~29%.  Weir has an "overwhelming" approval rating  is smoke and mirrors, exactly like his declaration that the Ward 3 voters say they are against the Hillside Ordinance -- selective fantasyland thinking.
 

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Topics: Ken Weir, recall
posted by citybeat on Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 05:13 PM
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posted by genodaman on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM

I’m all for Weir’s basic conservative values of pro-family, pro private property rights (assuming whose your speaking of) and fiscally conservative. However, the man’s character is speaking for itself in that his primary interest is focused inward…himself.   Living in Pgh, PA, we are choked with horrific liberal AND INCREDIBLY ARROGANT agendas filled with erratic financial behavior like sinking exorbitant amounts of “public funds” (my money) into an ever degrading downtown city, public funds (again, my money) into the public financing of 3 professional sports team facilities (PNC park, Heinz Field and a new (yet unnamed) arena) AND a “state” funded (hmmm, still my money?) over $500 million dollar transit project to build a tunnel under the Allegheny River for access to the Pittsburgh North Shore (about a 1/4 mile tunnel) from downtown Pittsburgh. It doesn’t matter what the will of the people is, the liberal Democrats force feed the people…and they are killing this place. This is irresponsible.   Ken Weir doesn’t appear to be really be for the people…he’s dead set on his own agenda. Does that sound truly conservative? By the people, FOR THE PEOPLE?  It almost appears that he is a stubborn liberal that doesn’t listen to anyone…only if it’s for his benefit.  This is irresponsible.   I know that individuals have met with Mr. Weir personally, and from what I’ve seen, none have come away with any satisfaction. NONE. Is this the role of a true public official? Getting a potholed filled is one thing…the Hillside Ordinance is completely different.   Whether or not the recall happens, I’m in full agreement with Mr. Winn and “holding these politicians feet to the fire.” If we, (the PEOPLE), don’t, then who will? We can’t forget, that these city officials have to be reminded that they are supposed to working for the people in their ward. If their job is indeed unsatisfactory, then the people of the ward are responsible for taking action…and if it means recall, then let some of these local politicians start shaking in their boots and KNOW they are being monitored.   Lest ye forget, Mr. Weir is still just one man (“representing” the entire ward), equal to you and I. His title of “City Councilman” is only that…a title.
posted by iTsMyTuRn on Aug 5, 2008 at 06:43 PM

I can't believe that anyone even listens to Will Winn.  The man is ridiculous and doesn't even know what he is talking about half the time.  Maybe he should worry about fixing his own past before he continues to be condescending towards others. 

By the way, Willie, you did in fact say you wouldn't proceed with the recall on the Inga Barks Show.  Hello...it aired on the radio.  I have tried writing to the paper about your lies, Winn, but they wouldn't print it because it "contradicted their reporting" (according to the editor).

posted by genodaman on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:17 AM

Dear iTsMyTuRn,   Did you listen to Mr. Winn’s interview on the Inga Bark show? If I remember correctly, Mr. Winn was not interested in pursuing a special election (costing the tax payers additional money) if the signatures needed for the recall were not gathered in time of the cutoff. There was no mention to stop the recall unless they did not get the signatures needed. It’s pretty cut and dry. I believe your information is incorrect.   What do you know about Mr. Winn’s past? Do you know him? Sounds like you have some personal issues against him from the language you’re using in your post. That’s unfortunate because you appear to be the condescending one with calling him names like “Willie” or “Winn”.   Will you please post Mr. Winn’s lies here? Explain how he is ridiculous and/or condescending?   My question to you iTsMyTuRn is how is it wrong to keep elected officials accountable to the people that have elected them? It is the responsibility of the people to make themselves aware of issues that appear to be “underhanded” or “corrupt” and from what numerous people have seen (not just Mr. Winn), Mr. Weir has had questionable issues (General Holdings, Russell Johnson, illegal use of a city seal…) arise from the moment he was elected into office. This isn’t opinion, it’s fact.   From what I’ve seen, Mr. Winn isn’t standing alone…
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