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The cynic in me...
The cynic in me thinks of this coming election and laughs. Why? Because I predict Hillary Clinton winning the election and having Al Gore become vice president (again). I imagine Hillary's health care plan being passed and seeing abortions paid for by the government. Soon after a pro-lifer attempts to assassinate Hillary Clinton.
Al Gore all the while is enacting several global warming laws that promise a lot but never really accomplish anything, except pissing off anyone who can't afford a new hybrid. Meanwhile Hillary pulls the remaining troops out of Iraq and watches as Iran tests several nuclear bombs above ground. She praises Ahmadinejad for his peaceful demonstration of superiority, and Al Gore gives him millions of dollars (of which was added to a military spending bill) for Ahmadinejad's "green" efforts in nuclear research. ------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
If you're offending at reading this, get a thicker skin. 148 comments from 19 users
posted by
possummomma
on Jun 18, 2007 at 02:13 AM
I don't see Hilary winning. As much as I would love to have a woman in office (for the sheer "girl power" aspect of it all), I just don't see her going all the way. I think Obama has a better chance then she. I watched the repub and dem debates and thought Hilary was very well-spoken, especially in regard to the debate on faith (by Soledad O'Brien). I liked what she said about not wearing your faith on your sleeve and using it as a campaign badge. But, you're not surprised that I appreciated that, I'll assume. ;) But, I will admit that that comment wasn't enough to make me want to vote for her. I don't know...for some reason, I just find her a touch more back-handed than her husband. Some might say that you'd have to be a bit sneaky to be a woman (or man, for that matter) in politics, but I just get the impression that she's not completely genuine. Or, genuine enough. LOL I'm liking Obama for the dem ticket, right now. I've been following him for a while and, while I wish he would've waited another four years - to get more experience, I don't think he's a bad choice. Of course, there's a part of me that would go for Dole if he'd run again. I guess we'll just have to wait-and-see. If a republican stepped up who could leave his personal faith in it's place, then I might be swayed. I think Romney will be an interesting person to watch over the next few months.
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 02:27 AM
I don't think Hillary could win right now, but if she takes Gore on as a running mate, it would certainly influence a lot Gore's "followers" (and there a TON of them). The one thing I think the republicans need to do is back off the religion, and start talking morals. Sure they might say where they get their morals from, but make it known that their church will not dictate their position.... Something Romney has shown to work well with the people. posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 07:05 AM
1. Gore won't run as Senator Clinton's VP. I seriously doubt he'd run with her as *HIS* VP. 2. Senator Clinton won't pull the troops out of Iraq. This is a major reason not to vote for her, in my view. posted by
adampayne
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:31 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:39 AM
He seems to think the Christian Right will support him because of his revised positions. They'll never accept him as "one of their own." . Varmint-hunting or no varmint-hunting, if you will. posted by
NancyII
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:41 AM
After Gore losing, I can't see him ever taking second banana..especially to Hillary. Did anyone see or hear that there was some objection to our referring to her as just "Hillary?" I heard some mumbling about the lack of respect for her and that while we tend to use both names or the last name of other politicians we only use her first name. Y'all shape up now...y'hear? posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:45 AM
I try to refer to her as "Senator Clinton" (or, to p*ss off her fellow conservatives, "President Clinton.") I believe she herself settled the controversy, as shown by her website: http://www.hillaryclinton.c...
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:48 AM
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 08:52 AM
posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:00 AM
Michael Moore is a sicko for getting much deserved healthcare for our 9/11 heros? Hmmm......
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:01 AM
We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. – Hillary Clinton We just can't trust the American people to make these types of decisions. …Government has to make these choices for people. – Hillary Clinton Karl Marx was a fair guy too, and all governments who saw his that way eventually gave the gay community everything they hoped for. (and if you actually believe that, you're one step away from digging your own grave). posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:07 AM
I will agree that reforms MUST be made and standards should be set for private industry (HMO/PPO/etc), but to travels to Cuba for medical care is absurd! posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:11 AM
And yet, with 1950's technology they manage to do as well as we do while spending far less money. Imagine what *WE* would be capable of if we did things the way they do... . You think there's something wrong with "bringing the war to an end?" You like, maybe, endless, pointless war? My problem with Clinton's stance on the war is that she's planning on keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq after "ending" it. posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:15 AM
"Karl Marx did not invent sharing with your neighbor" Karl Marx and communism FORCES people to share equally, so the guy who works 18hrs/day will get the same benefits as the guy who works 18hrs/month. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:17 AM
It worked for Billy Maher and John Graham. http://www.youtube.com/watc... ps. I will continue to post anonymously until the BC carries out their promise to get rid of the option. posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:17 AM
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:20 AM
speaking of which.... Martha, suggesting somebody change their sexual preference because you deem it to be a better one is not allowed... goodbye! posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:20 AM
Karl Marx certainly did not invent sharing with your neighbor. The guys who advocated it generally had a hard time of it, including that guy who got "nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change." . Now, me, I don't see any problem with someone who works 18 hours per month getting access to the same level of medical care I do. I *DO* have a problem with a corporate executive getting 400 times the pay his workers do for the same number of hours, while he gets full medical care and they get nothing. Of course, Marx never thought Communism would take hold first in a back wards place like Russia. So much for his insight, eh? posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:22 AM
It's funny how conservatives ~*think*~ they know Marx.
posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:25 AM
"If you're offending {sic} at reading this, get a thicker skin."
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:25 AM
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:26 AM
posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:28 AM
Communism and Marxism are not exactly the same.
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:30 AM
Which claim, Skyler? That she'd leave a residual force behind? ================================================= = (A) March 15 New York Times article supported his account of Clinton's position. As noted in the March 15 article, Clinton explained in a lengthy March 13 interview with the Times that she would "keep a reduced military force there [in Iraq] to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military" as part of her troop-withdrawal plan. Clinton did not, in the Times interview or elsewhere, say she wanted to keep U.S. troops in Iraq "permanently." . That's not a new idea. Bush planned to leave a residual force in Iraq for decades, along the lines of the Korean Border situation. (Which means they're there as sacrificial lambs, who will be overwhelmed by an invading force as a "tripwire" so that a new declaration of war won't be necessary) and to protect our oil. Mostly the oil. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:30 AM
"The cynic in me" Where's Doc when you need him? posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:30 AM
And you'll say I'm the one who only sees things my way? posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:31 AM
Skyler, I gave you the link. Acts 2:44-45 . It's worth noting that apparently Marx thought there'd be no problem with everyone getting enough, under Communism, once production was intelligently managed. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:32 AM
No, I was just pointing out the irony of your comment.
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:32 AM
posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Oh for heaven's sake...are you not skilled in internet searching. http://query.nytimes.com/gs...
posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:37 AM
hmm... martha was just trying to educate people. i think the retaliation was overkill.
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:37 AM
Removed broken link, thanks Annie. When I tried it get it the Times article was behind the pay-per-view wall. . By the way, "funny" is directly proportional to the power and stature of the person being derided. That's why it's funny to see a millionaire slip and fall on a banana peel, while a destitute, crippled old lady doing the same thing is a tragedy. . Idiots who think "gayness can be cured" are ripe for ridicule simply because their ideas are taken seriously. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:39 AM
At least someone understood it.
posted by
jfrancais
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:40 AM
ki6amd, From what I read Cuba has a pretty good Health Care system. As a matter of fact, they deploy doctors all over the world to offer health care to other 3rd world countries. Cubans have longer life expectancy and better infant mortality rates than the U.S. so their technology can't be too bad. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:41 AM
right Anny, it was heavy handed cruelty. just like it always is for the "little" people.
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:43 AM
By the way, your doubt about Bush keeping residual forces in Iraq. Why do you *THINK* we're building those dozen huge bases there...for the Iraqis? http://www.guardian.co.uk/u... (We've been in Korea 50 years. Iraq would be about the same, unless they kicked us out.) posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Random, I won't call Hillary a liberal, if you won't call her a conservative... we'll just call her a nut case, agreed? (For future reference I don't even consider Bush a "conservative", but he's certainly not a liberal) posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:46 AM
Skyler, you should perhaps search *FIRST*, then post? . She's closer to a conservative than a liberal on many issues. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. As for "nut," she's certainly saner than Bush (but then, who the heck isn't?). . I'm surprised you didn't pick up on my reference about "the guy nailed to a tree" (I was quoting Douglas Adams in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.) It's a reasonably famous case: http://www.biblegateway.com... posted by
antiextremism
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:57 AM
Some kinda health care for poor children isn't communism Skyler, it's human decency. They have no control over how hard their parents work. Let me rehash one of our favorite sons comments....“Many people consider the things which government does for them to be social progress, but they consider the things government does for others as socialism” - Earl Warren I think people are way too put off by the word, socialism. Communism wasn't really a socialists club, it benefited the elite more than anyone and was closer to a dicatatorship than a people run government. They just redistributed the wealth of those that had, and gave it to those that ruled. There is socialism in our life at every corner. Every American citizen benefits from some form of socialism. Social Security is an example. It is the smart thing to do, it forces people to have a retirement of some kind. Now as capitalists, we may say to hell with them if they can't save money for their senior years but guess what, instead of making them contribute to their own retirement, now they will be taking your hard earned money instead. You will pay for them whether it be directly or from higher prices. Which is better, forcing people to pay for themselves, or going ahead and taking it out of the pockets of those who have saved? The same can be said for medicine. WE are paying for emergency visits to K.M.C. by those that don't have coverage. Perhaps if people had a general health plan, the emergency visit would be tempered by a good maintenance plan. There IS going to be a change in medical coverage, whether we like it or not. There is a financial limit that gouging and bureaucracy will be supported by. posted by
anonymous
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:58 AM
Hillary is liberal.
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 09:58 AM
Gay people don't offend me, stupid people do. Telling me I should become gay so a gay person feels better about themself is idiotic. Maybe I should form the same opinions they have about drapery patterns, and scents? Heck, while we're at it why doesn't everyone form the same opinions about everything? Then we could have .... Hillary as our supreme dictator! posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:02 AM
We didn't say he/she was *GOOD* at it. . Thanks to George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton will have all the power she needs in order to imprison people she doesn't like. . Skyler, no offense, but I doubt you know *ANYTHING* about how "gay guys" think. Your opinion of gays seems drawn almost entirely from sixth-grade humor. I won't comment on the source of your political insight, but I suspect it's quite similar. posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:13 AM
posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:21 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Skyler, I refer you again to my observation about humor. In this time and place, homosexuals have little to no power. That's changing slowly, but it's still the case. There is a significant difference between a gay man saying you can be persuaded to bat for the other team, and a straight man saying gays can be straightened. I'll pass on the gay bars, not because I'm straight but because I hardly drink. But have one for me. . A drink, I mean... posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:31 AM
And please enlighten me, how is a gay man going straight any different than a straight man going gay? I've actually met a few guys who "grew out" of the gay lifestyle and have families now, some of them VERY open about it, others certainly not open to talking about it. I would love to know how you've reached your conclusion too. As for gays having "little to no power" maybe you should take a look at Washington D.C. again. There are a few congressmen, and senators that are openly gay. Would you say that they have little to no power? Maybe you should open your eyes a little wider and see what's going on in the world around you? posted by
dusty1215
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Morning Skyler:) I have a Web Design problem, can I email you for a quick consult? posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:43 AM
e-mail away Dusty. posted by
dusty1215
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:45 AM
BTW...the news on Hillary is SHE WON"T be pulling ALL the troops out. She had her fingers crossed behind her back or some crap..seriously. posted by
ki6amd
on Jun 18, 2007 at 10:50 AM
....on a side note, I remember EVERY time I've gone with her to the gay bars. Our readers recommend: |