McCarthy and Abernathy are mostly about money. The rest is just salad dressing.

Well it comes as a shock to me, I understand he's only in it for the money, but those issues (pro-life, guns for everyone) I thought were written in stone for a neo-con like our very own U.S. Congressman.

I don't believe Congressman McCarthy's voting record indicates what this blog claims he believes.

~Ace

I don't think McCarthy believes what he believes.

Tom, you're not in a position to make that claim IMHO. Just saying.

Aren't you employed by The Bakersfield Californian? What's going on with the left-wing atheist moon-bat rhetoric?

Vanity, I'm not sure what going on with the left-wing atheist moon-bat rhetoric any more than you know what's going on with the right-wing whackjob hate-Christ's-teachings-Christian rhetoric.  

Why don't you think I'm in a position to make that claim?

"I don't think McCarthy believes what he believes." 

Okay! I think that needs some explanation.

WHOA ... Tom, do you work for TBC?  And to think that I complimented you.  I have to shower now.

Well Ace, McCarthy is a member of The California Congress of Republicans (CCR) whose platform is pro-abortion and anti-gun, but his voting record has earned him grades in 2007 Gun Owners of America gave Representative McCarthy a rating of A, and in 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Representative McCarthy a grade of 0. 

So it looks like Tom W, was right, when he wrote you that "I don't think McCarthy believes what he believes."

Thanks, Mont.  When someone claims to believe multiple things about the same thing, it smacks of pandering and opportunism.  McCarthy may be a nice fellow in private life and perhaps he should devote more time to that.

"Well Ace, McCarthy is a member of The California Congress of Republicans (CCR) whose platform is pro-abortion and anti-gun, but his voting record has earned him grades in 2007 Gun Owners of America gave Representative McCarthy a rating of A, and in 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Representative McCarthy a grade of 0. 

So it looks like Tom W, was right, when he wrote you that "I don't think McCarthy believes what he believes." "

In other words, McCarthy likely supports CCR under different platform issues and has remained consistant in his voting record on the issues of Abortion and Gun Rights.

~Ace

Well now we can agree, but nooneisabovethelaw already made that point, "McCarthy and Abernathy are mostly about money. The rest is just salad dressing."

Montfred,

I don't make the same connection, perhaps we cannot agree on this.

I would also like to say I have looked through the CCR website and it has a noticable lack of Abernathy's name. I'm guessing someone will respond that it is intentional and another puppet organization he controls (that excuse seems to be getting a little dry from my perspective).

~Ace

You missed a page, it's pretty noticable, Ace, it's on the membership page.

http://www.ccrgop.org/chapt...

CENTRAL INLAND  - DIVISION VI

Bakersfield Congress of Republicans (Kern County)
  Mark Abernathy, President
     Ph. 661-327-4141

Oh no, I did see that. I was actually speaking to your original post where it says:

"The CCR, lead by consultant Mark Abernathy"

I suppose my comment would be more accurate if it said "I would also like to say I have looked through the CCR website and it has a noticable lack of Abernathy's name for the state organization, although he does head up the local branch"

Excuse me....I have questions  are these words "whose platform is pro-abortion and anti-gun"  from the  The Red Couny Blog  or not?   I can't seem to find them...  I also can't find any documentation at http://www.ccrgop.org/purpo... to convince me that Congressman McCarthy  is pro-abortion or anti-gun. Is that your point in posting your Blog?  Or do you define those terms differently from me?  Thank you, for providing me a fun learning experience.   Following are some of the things I learned.  

Those CCR folks appear to be pretty tame. The quick scan I made of their platform  makes me think they try really hard not to alienate anyone.  Pretty wise thing to do whether you are a Democrat or a Republican seeking  an elected office.

 At  http://www.ccrgop.org/purpo... I read  the CCR Platform which states "Gun Safety:  Demands the enforcement of existing laws. Will work to reduce the number of crimes committed in which firearms are used and to reduce the overall deaths and injuries caused by firearms."   But I don't see how that is anti-gun  it just kind of seems to be a statement that law abiding people would not have a problem agreeing with.  What existing gun laws are out there that folks other than law breaking thugs would not want to see enforced?  Who wants to have the overall deaths and injuries caused by firearms increased?  Funeral homes and Medical personnel maybe because of job security but  I consider that POV kind of cynical.

Can there actually be any group that claims they are pro-abortion?  Pro-choice maybe but where does any group actually claim they are pro-abortion?  Does that  mean they believe every pregnancy needs to end in abortion? Once again  Medical personnel maybe because  increased workload could equal more overtime maybe more pay.  But that kind of thinking would be self defeating because that would really reduce their customer base in the long run.

Also from  http://www.ccrgop.org/platf...  the CCR Platform states "Abortion: Will work to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions in the United States but allow individuals to form and articulate their own positions on the issue."       I read the words reduce and abortions in the same sentence I think I'm supposed to think the CCR maybe wants to reduce the number of abortions. That doesn't seem actually "pro-abortion".  Granted they appear to be pro-choice with their "allow individuals to form and articulate their own positions on the issue".  Is that a No-No? Are all Republicans required to  believe in denying a woman personal control over her reproductive rights?  If so sign me up.  NOT!!!  OMG now I've gone and done it the next thing you know folks will be saying that I am "pro-abortion"  For the record let me state I am not pro-abortion as I interpret the words to mean.  

I don't know Congressman McCarthy. I do however say hi to him when I see him.  We both like Garces football.  Go Rams!!!  There are some very capable people working for him at his Bakersfield office and I recommend you contact them if you ever have an issue getting your passport renewed.  Oh Yuk I have a headache.  Too much politics for one day must rest now......

The quote came from directly from Red County, (I'd never heard the term pro-abortion before either). the permalink below takes you directly to the quote:

"Moderate" Congressman McCarthy

Posted by: The Shadow | 08/14/2008 11:40 AM

  The California Congress of Republicans (CCR) whose platform is pro-abortion and anti-gun and states that their philosophy is "...not to play politics with personal religious and social issues.".

The CCR, lead by consultant Mark Abernathy, announced support of the appointment of Congressman Kevin McCarthy to the co-chair of the GOP Platform Committee as follows:

"Congressman Kevin McCarthy is a member of CCR and a long-time supporter of our mainstream GOP message.  He will be a strong moderate voice on the Platform Committee."

http://www.redcounty.com/ce...

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