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noholdsbarred - > No holds barred -> Fireworks are neither safe nor sane for California
Fireworks are neither safe nor sane for California

I have a new title:  Enemy Of Fun.

If your idea of fun is setting off combustibles that shoot sparks, smoke, magnesium, copper and barium into the air (i.e. fireworks), then yes, I’m the Enemy Of Fun.

We need to ban all personal fireworks in Bakersfield, Kern County and the entire state, for that matter.

I’ve heard all the arguments against a ban —  too much government intrusion, one night of fireworks isn’t that bad for our air, it penalizes responsible people, non-profits depend on fireworks sales for fund-raising.

Sorry. None of those tip the scales for me when I compare the costs of  personal fireworks.

Last year, personal fireworks caused 88 fires in Kern County and 26 in the city. Three of those city fires were full-on structures.

It’s harder to pin down fireworks related injuries. Hospitals don’t note the cause of a burn or lost finger.  And people don’t tend to call the authorities if they blow out an eye using an illegal firework.

Anecdotally, I’m told by Kern Medical Center that its emergency room sees about eight to 10 fireworks burn cases over the holiday.

Please recall, though, that in 2004, Raymond Reilly III, 45, was killed by a modified legal firework. That’s a cost that can never be recovered.

Air readings from every 4th of July since 2004 show particulate matter, known as PM2.5 — tiny bits of soot and smoke that lodge deep in lung tissue causing major problems for anyone with a respiratory condition — goes through the roof between 9 and 10 p.m. It happens all over the valley, but Bakersfield has higher readings by far.

We had been just barely squeaking under the Environmental Protection Agency’s standard for PM2.5 and that standard was lowered in late 2006 by nearly half. There’s no way our air will meet the standard now, the San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District tells me. Firework smoke, even just one night, does not help.

The PM2.5 spike has been so consistently bad the district is going to study whether a new fireworks rule is needed. That study won’t be done until 2012. I don’t know why it would take that long to figure out that we shouldn’t needlessly add more junk to our already crummy air.

The county and city each have enforcement teams of 15 fire fighters paired with 15 law enforcement personnel that try to keep up with the hundreds of calls. So many people called last year, the teams were running an hour behind.

“People are fed up with the illegal fireworks,” Kern County Deputy Chief Brian Marshall told me. The county issued 100 citations last year and seized 2,500 pounds of illegal fireworks.

But catching people using the illegal stuff isn’t easy, Fire Chief Ron Fraze said.

Unless you see someone shoot off a bottle rocket or M-80, you can’t arbitrarily check every package, especially at some of the large block parties.

I wondered why the fire departments need Johnny Law riding along since any firefighter can cite you for illegal fireworks.

Protection.

Firefighters have been threatened and assaulted (live fireworks thrown at them) by rowdy revelers who mix alcohol with their pyrotechnics.

Lovely.

And, of course, our beleaguered animal shelters can hardly handle the extra dogs running wild and crazed with fright by what sounds like a war zone. The Kern County Animal Control shelter took in about 30 more dogs last year during the July 4th week than an average week earlier in the year.
 

The only real challenge to an outright ban, in my mind, is how non-profits can make up the money they’d lose.

The city permits about 70 organizations to sell fireworks, the county permits nearly 200.

Those groups make a lot of money from fireworks sales.

I doubt there’s a way to entirely make up for that loss. But there are plenty of ideas out there such as phasing out the sales over several years to give the groups time to develop other fund-raising avenues or allowing the non-profits to sell tickets to community shows and take a cut of the proceeds, or sell concessions at the shows.

That’s how they did it in Torrance, even expanding their community show into a daylong event.

“They make much the same or more (money),” according to Bob Gebel with the Torrance Fire Department. “There are associated city costs but...we were willing to absorb (the costs) for common sense safety.”

So far, there has only been one real champion for a ban locally and that’s Fraze.

It hasn’t won him any friends. He even got threats on his home phone. Threats!

But what a fireworks ban really needs is political leadership. After a round of phone calls to all our city council members and county supervisors, I only found one supporter.

“I would support a ban, realizing that it would need to be countywide,” said Bakersfield City Councilwoman Sue Benham. “It would not be effective to do in just the city.”

Air quality was her No. 1 issue.

“There are so many things about our air quality that we can’t control and this is one we can,” she said.

OK, so it’s Fraze, Benham and me against, oh, pretty much the rest of Kern County.

It’s a start!

Opinions expressed in this column are those of Lois Henry, not The Bakersfield Californian. Her  column appears Wednesdays and Sundays. Call her at 395-7373 or e-mail lhenry@bakersfield.com

 

Some rules about fireworks

With smoke blanketing California from so many fires, officials from the Governor to Kern County Supervisor Ray Watson are urging people to voluntarily not use personal fireworks this year.
But if you must do so, please remember that if it shoots off the ground or explodes, it is illegal.
Only “safe and sane” fireworks are legal in California.
And even some of those aren’t OK within Bakersifeld City limits.
Piccolo Pete and Ground Bloom fireworks are illegal in Bakersfield, though they’re still legal in the county portion of the metro area.
Fire officials are encouraging neighbors to report any illegal firework use by calling 868-6070 in the county and 326-FIRE (3473) in the city.
 

 

Community fireworks shows
July 3
• The KERN 1410 AM Independence Day fireworks spectacular follows the Bakersfield Blaze baseball game against the San Jose Giants at Sam Lynn Ball Park, 4009 Chester Ave. Gates open at 6:30 p.m.; game starts at 7:30. The show is included in the price of admission. Tickets are $5 to $9. 716-4487.

• Fireworks in Shafter with live entertainment and food at the Shafter High School football field, 526 Mannel Ave. Barbecue starts at 6 p.m., fireworks at 8:45 p.m. Free, but donations welcomed. 746-2600.

• McFarland fireworks show with water amusements for the kids, T-ball games, food and live music by country/classic rock band The Fugitives, at McFarland High School, 259 Sherwood Ave. Starts at 5:30 p.m., fireworks at 9 p.m. Admission: $1 children, $2 adults. 792-3187.

July 4
Tehachapi goes all out for America’s birthday, small town-style.
The Hot Dog Festival starts with an 8 a.m. “Bun Run” 5K walk/run starting at Jacobsen Middle School, 711 Anita Drive.
Pancake breakfast begins at 8:30 a.m., $5 a plate, with games, a petting zoo and entertainment at Central Park, East E and South Mojave streets. The children’s parade starts 11 a.m. at Jacobsen Middle School. Bratwurst, chili dogs, buffalo dogs and more will be available at Central Park.
Bullriding at the Tehachapi Rodeo Grounds on Dennison Road starts at 6 p.m., gates open at 4 p.m.
Presale is $8 children 8 to 14 and $10 adults; at the gate, $10 for children and $12 for adults. Children 7 and under free. Available at tehachapiprorodeo.com.
The annual July Fourth concert features patriotic songs, showtunes, jazz and light classical music at Coy Burnett Football Field on Tehachapi Boulevard. Gates open 4 p.m. First band at 5 p.m. featuring traditional sing-along. At 7 p.m., the Tehachapi Community Orchestra performs. Pack a picnic dinner.
Fireworks begin at 9 p.m. Admission free, donations welcomed.

• Taste of Tehachapi Food and Wine Festival, 4 to 8 p.m. on South Green Street from Tehachapi Boulevard to F Street. Features 12 restaurants, a beer garden and five local wineries. Music by Friends of Cheap Yellow Mustard.
Tickets $20 in advance, $25 at the door. Purchase tickets at the Tehachapi Farmer's Market (today from 4 to 7 p.m.), Mama Hillybeans, 426 E. Tehachapi Blvd., or e-mail info@TasteofTehachapi.com. 816-0529.

• 54th annual "Red, White and Boom" Fireworks Show presented by the Bakersfield Firefighters Relief Association, with performances by Sanctus Real and 800lb Gorilla, gates open 6 p.m., concert at 6:30, fireworks at 9. Bakersfield College Memorial Stadium, 1801 Panorama Drive. $10 to $15. $2 parking donation. Tickets available at any city fire station or jesusshack.com. 324-0638.

• Spotlight Theatre debuts “The History of Rock & Roll: Born in the U.S.A.,” a musical, at 4 p.m., with a barbecue at noon.
Presale tickets are $15 adults, $12 students with ID, seniors 50 and up and military, $7 children under 12. Barbecue purchased separately.
The musical follows the experiences of two couples, one black and one white, from the 1960s to present day.
“The History of Rock & Roll: Born in the U.S.A.” plays through August 9 on Thursday nights at 7 p.m. and Friday and Saturday nights at 8 p.m.
Spotlight Theatre, 1622 19th St. 634-0692.

• Fireworks show in Taft at 8:30 p.m., Franklin Field, Highway 119 and Cedar Street. Free. 765-2165.

• Fireworks show in Wasco at dusk in Babe Ruth Ball Park, Poplar Avenue and 11th Street. Free. 758-3081.

• Independence Day Celebration in Ridgecrest starting 5 p.m. with motorcycle racing at Desert Empire Fairgrounds, 520 S. Richmond Road. Features live music, barbecue and fireworks at 9 p.m. Free, $10 to watch racing. (760) 375-2715.

July 5
• Fireworks show at Isabella Lake at 9:15 p.m., shot over Engineers Point. Free, but donations welcomed. (760) 379-5236.

• “Star Spangled Spectacular” in Delano starting at 5 p.m. at Delano Memorial Park, Lexington Street and Garces Highway. $8 for meal, free fireworks show. The Prisoners of Love, a Latin/old school dance band and barbecue by the Kiwanis Club of Delano from 5 to 8 p.m. Fireworks begin at dusk and will be fired from the north end of Delano Municipal Airport. Guests encouraged to bring folding chairs, blankets, or shade setups that can be carried. 725-1286.

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posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 28, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Too many people don't know what they're doing when it comes to fireworks, which is why we see so many fires and injuries.  I grew up in a state where there are not as many limitations on fireworks, and I never once saw anyone get injured.  Maybe we just had more sense, I don't know. I also think I was spoiled with good fireworks, because the ones that you can buy here are pathetic, honestly.  So yes, I agree with you, it's not worth it for people to be using personal fireworks here in Bakersfield. If you want good fireworks, watch the shows.. they're the closest to a real fireworks display you're going to get around here.

posted by Wayfarer on Jun 28, 2008 at 11:42 AM

I was at a local block party were the neighbors must have dropped $1,000 on legal fire works.  Everything started safe and sane with the fire works being set off one at a time on a board suspended between two ladders in the middle of the street and plenty of fire prevention gear around.  By the end of the night things were getting a little crazier with setting off of multiple fountains to see how big it could get.  I guess it is part of human nature to see how big of a boom you can make.  What got me though, was the ride down 99 that night.  There was so much smoke in the air it looked like a fog bank had rolled in. 

posted by mildmannered1 on Jun 28, 2008 at 12:10 PM

It's Fraze, Benham, Lois, and my whole family.  Thanks for the column.


posted by samheath on Jun 28, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Sure gets my vote Lois.

posted by Shwaine on Jun 28, 2008 at 02:47 PM

As I said in another blog on this subject, I'll be holed up over my poor little HEPA filter that night. I'm not sure it's quite cut out for the task, but it's better than nothing. Also, for all those pet owners out there that plan to tranquilize their animals, make sure to call your vet Monday instead of waiting until the last minute. Vets are going to be very busy this week.

posted by adampayne on Jun 28, 2008 at 03:19 PM

After a quick trip to splash some wilting plants in the backyard, and chewing the air briefly ( a smoky combination of pine and eucalyptus mixed with a grainy metallic flavor for the discerning palette) I find it hard to understand why any person would want to call setting off home fireworks in Bakersfield fun. The normal climate and air quality around the 4th always figures to be hotter and more noxious than Vulcan's crack. Why anyone would want to  add a significant  blast of more chemicals and toxins to the current state of smoke, pesticide and emission scum is beyond me.

Add our little family to your Enemy of Fun group.

 

posted by gube on Jun 28, 2008 at 03:33 PM

when is it going to end ...........slowly all our joys will be gone..........then what!

posted by drilnliftcrude on Jun 28, 2008 at 03:34 PM

When my kid outgrows fireworks in a couple years, then I'll join the rest of the old grouches.

posted by gube on Jun 28, 2008 at 03:45 PM

We might as ban cars too...............and motorcycles.............and auto racing..................and hang gliding..............................and football........................and smoking.............................crab fishing.............................and sun bathing...............................and boxing.........................and skateboarding........................and firefighting................and rodeo's.................and cops........................and construction ..............and fighter pilots...................and down Hill skiing...................and scuba diving..........and fast food.............Because all these things are dangerous and can cause injury or death...................

posted by Rickldo on Jun 28, 2008 at 03:48 PM

No one made any money off of me for fireworks in 20 years, I've always thought the block party crap was just that. I guess in this regard, I've ALWAYS been old. Dislike the noise, smoke, smell  and garbage and the idiots who think the fourth runs from the time the stands start selling until July 6th or 7th. STUPID HOLIDAY!

posted by gube on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:04 PM

Rickldo you are just plain unamerican..........unpatriotic...........lol

posted by AudreyB on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:09 PM

Rickldo

Please move next door to me!

posted by Rickldo on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:22 PM

I also don't decorate my house for Christmas. Why put up lights only to take them down the next month?

Sorry gube, I'm patriotic, just not into the wasting of money, polluting of the air, the whole shmear. Silliness...

Aud, you seem like you'd be a great neighbor. You'd probably never see or hear me...

posted by gube on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:28 PM

rickldo I am just kidding with you.......

I to hate putting up and taking down Christmas lights...............so I just leave them up year around........

posted by OldBlue56 on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:33 PM

gube, isn't it dangerous having those lights so close to the bathtub that you have in that tree in your front yard?

posted by Rickldo on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:37 PM

I know your joking gube. No biggie...

How long will the above misspelling stay un-commented upon?

posted by drilnliftcrude on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:00 PM

I also hate going to see a baseball game and having to stand for the national anthem, you're just gonna sit back down again.  Or taking my hat off and placing it over my heart when the flag passes during a parade. What a waste. You're just gonna put it back on again.  Silliness....

posted by Rickldo on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:05 PM

I KNOW!

 

 

 

And what's singing "Take Me Out To The Ball Game"? You're **already** there...duh!

posted by montfred on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:11 PM

unAmerican then; am I. 


posted by AudreyB on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:14 PM

rick

 Well you'd be a 100% improvement on my neighbors to the east.  They hold Friday Night Fights every week.  The entertainment value is over and now it's just noise.

posted by bakonative on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:21 PM

Hope you were kidding drilnliftcrude!

I won't buy fireworks this year, the air quality is bad enough right now. In addition, at last years block party, I was inside at 9 because the smoke was too much for my lungs. Hopefully at the block party this year, we won't have many fireworks, as all of our kids are in their teens or older now. The worst thing about the block party is hopefully just this darn heat and air quality!!!

posted by Rickldo on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:28 PM

I'm all over a BBQ on the 4th, and going to BC for the pro show. It's the rest of stuff that seriously bugs.

I was fortunate enough to be travelling through the Philly area on 7/4/01. I was driving a truck and the shipment was due the following day. Nothing to do but wait. I reset my TV to Philly channels and found that The DOI would be read by celebrities on a special that evening. Nice! From Philly! Really Nice! 

That evening I was awed by the fireworks display broadcast nationwide, from a spot I was within 3/4 mile of. I was watching on TV and could look out my window and see it a few seconds earlier than the rest of the nation. Chillbumps man, nothing but gooseflesh!

So, I'm patriotic, just low key... 

posted by NancyII on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:31 PM

Benadryl Childrens Liquid.  I've been giving sips of it to my poor pooch for his wheezing and itching.  The noise doesn't bother him apparently but the allergies do and I'm told it's a great tranq.  Look up safe doses on google. 

The only reason I go to the block parties is because Mark (motopoet) makes ice cream.  Trouble is, his freezer broke so it looks like I'm ice creamless this year.  Maybe I'll pass on the party too.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:37 PM

It's the tire flattening crap left in the road on the 5th, by the nematodes who don't give a poop about anyone else, that bothers me.

Oh and  the smoke on the 4th.  It's unbearable.

posted by H8cloz on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:38 PM

Nudists + Fireworks = Burn Unit. We used to do the "safe and sane" fireworks, but their just too expensive anymore. I think the people who put up stands for fund raising are going to lose money this year. What with gas prices, the bad air, the Fire Marshall and Arnold telling people to not buy fireworks, they are in real trouble. They should have put up lemon-aid or snow cone stands instead. Or, perhaps fresh air breathing stations and oxygen bars.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:48 PM

The problem is,  the people who are REALLY into fireworks are neither safe nor sane.  Makes you think huh.

posted by NancyII on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:55 PM

I've had allergies bad enough to cause hives this year so I'm thinking I need to just go for a drive up the mountain for the evening.  Or at the least, stay home with the door shut.  Claratin has taken care of the hives and sneezes (even though I don't like it and it makes me sorta sleepy) but I don't want to chance it not being strong enough to hold up under the added smoke.

posted by H8cloz on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:02 PM

Nancy, I would avoid being "up" in any mountains this year. I'm sure some bonehead will set them all on fire with their "safe and sane" fireworks. As dry as it is, I would rent a boat and sail out to the middle of Lake Tahoe for the weekend. You should be safe there.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:03 PM

Nancy

I think it's time they were banned.  When something causes so much trouble for other people it's time to give it up. 

There are lots of other ways for families to have fun on the 4th.

BTW Benedryl is my best friend this time of year.

posted by NancyII on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:07 PM

H8, I was thinking more along the lines of Tehachapi and back.  Not too far from home, just out of the valley for a couple of hours.

Audrey, I bought the childrens liquid so I could control the dose because that stuff knocks me out.  I used a little and decided to give some to Zack.  It seems to help his scratching.  The vet said Westies are prone to skin allergies.  Of course he wants to give me expensive meds and anti allergy pet food but that's out of my budget.  The little runt sleeps most of the time so the benadryl doens't have any effect on him that way.  :-)

posted by CheshireCat on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:14 PM

Good column Lois.  Bako people should head for the beach as the air in Kern is literally killing you.

posted by Shwaine on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:20 PM

H8cloz, but then you could get stuck out in the middle of Tahoe if all the shoreline goes up in flames. The ocean is better, you can sail to another marina if needed :)

posted by H8cloz on Jun 28, 2008 at 06:32 PM

Or, just keep on sailing to some remote South Pacific Island where I'll become King and build a clothing optional city...AND BAN FIREWORKS. Just dreaming.

Pismo would be a great place to go if only the entire populations of every city from Fresno to Bakersfield and in between weren't already there, with their fireworks.

posted by witbee on Jun 29, 2008 at 08:29 AM

That's OK. I will buy enough fireworks to offset you all!

MWAAHHH HAA HAAAAAAA!

posted by porter on Jun 29, 2008 at 09:42 AM

Three cheers from Porterville another town full of firecracking yahoos.


posted by mumford on Jun 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Won't someone just at least shut down the fireworks stands before they open? I know we can't stop the illegals, but it is insane to pump tons more smoke and particulate matter into the air with the air quality at the worst level ever!  

posted by AudreyB on Jun 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Hey Porter

I thought  fireworks were banned in Tulare County.  Anyway they were when we lived there 20 years ago.

posted by Shwaine on Jun 29, 2008 at 06:42 PM

Mumford, the permits have already been issued for the stands and the owners have already purchased their fireworks from their distributors. So that boat has sailed for this year. In more affluent times, it might have been an option to reimburse the stand owners for their expense, but to shut them down without reimbursement at this point wouldn't really be fair to them.

posted by noholdsbarred on Jun 29, 2008 at 09:23 PM

A  friend  whose father sells fireworks through his church said they have a "buy back" agreement with the fireworks companies so whatever they don't sell, gets purchased back.  I don't know if that's for full price or not...

posted by jmabbott888 on Jun 30, 2008 at 12:26 AM

I guess I fall under the "fireworks fanatic" group. I like my fireworks, although in NC where I came from they were much better. We had bottle rockets, M-60's, roman candles, blackcats, etc. The fireworks here, if you wanna call them that, suck. All they do is smoke (except the smoke bombs, they smoke about 10sac if you are lucky) & spit a little colored spark. The people that have gotten really hurt (more than a small first degree burn) are usually modifying fireworks, same thing would happen if most people tried to modify most anything, they would get hurt. The fireworks shows here are a joke, they are expensive, seating sucks & the kids like to do not watch. I'll keep doing my fieworks with the rest of my neighbors, when they do get outlawed in the state of Kalifornistan, I'll find another way to celebrate the fourth. As far as the particulate matter in the air alot of it comes from up north & we end up with it down in the south end of the valley due to the mountains, maybe if the cities up north loike Sac, Stockton, Manteca, Fresno etc would start watching their polution ours would get better. If yo don't think the smog, etc comes from up north just check out the news from the fires up there & the smoke clouds coming this way.

posted by gube on Jun 30, 2008 at 07:05 AM

Kalifornistan....I love it....I to grew up were we had real fireworks....we used to have bottle rocket fights.........We would stand about 100 feet away from each other and fire bottle rockets off at each other.....those were fun times .....no one ever got hurt....Few burnt fingers that's all..........Some people wont be happy until everything is taken away from us.............When we attack to traditions of the birth of this country its a sad day in America.............Land of the free..........ha

posted by nicksno on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:26 PM

Everybody forget about indenpendence day.I sure didnt fireworks are a great thing for family traditions and americans

don't rain on our parade.

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:33 PM

National holiday with imported fireworks from "China", where`s that money going ?

posted by AudreyB on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:34 PM

Another American faux pas.  Ain't America stupid.

posted by Cnote1980 on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:59 PM

Here we go again. Blaming the objects, and not the people. Why don't we ban guns, knives, cars, and mcdonalds french fries for that matter. No wait, let's ban alcohol across the country because it jumps down peoples throats, and then forces them to drive, and it's the culprit responsible for the 1/3 of all vehicle related deaths across the country. Heaven forbid that we take responsiblity for our own actions. I mean, Jack Daniels should be doing time for vehicular manslaughter. Or we could even charge Ronald McDonald with terrorism and mass murder for the killing of thousands of obese people and clogged arteries everywhere. If a kid gets burned with a firework, because he thinks it's cool to go pick it up while it's shooting out sparks at over 1,000 degrees, then he deserves to be burned. And the parents deserve to be charged with child neglect causing bodily injury. Come on people, let's stop blaming our stupidity on things, and start taking responsiblity for our own actions. The objects we use, are only as smart as we make them. If I point a gun at a person and pull the trigger, then I'm the idiot who deserves the death penalty. Not the gun, or the knives, or fireworks. One thing that fireworks do in fact do is they generate thousands of dollars for non profit organizations like the Kern Kiwanis, the Bakersfield Hispanic Chamber of commerce, Teen challenge, Etc, etc. Stop blaming firworks.  And start blaming yourselves.

posted by WESLEYSMOMMY on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:07 PM

Great post cnote!

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:11 PM

"One thing that fireworks do in fact do is they generate thousands of dollars for non profit organizations like the Kern Kiwanis, the Bakersfield Hispanic Chamber of commerce, Teen challenge, Etc," cnote

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China Starry Night Fireworks Co.,Ltd.

Goldtree Fireworks Export Co.,Ltd

China Qingcao Fireworks Mfg. Co., Ltd.

Monkey Fireworks Manufacturer Co., Ltd.

Jiangsu Jianhu Pyrotechnics Industry Ltd.

Zhejiang Menglei Import & Export Co., Ltd.

Jinan Bestar Inc.  

Ningbo Lica International Trading Co., Ltd.

 

posted by Shwaine on Jun 30, 2008 at 03:02 PM

Cnote, difference between fireworks and alcohol is that even responsible use of fireworks causes problems. Those who have issue with fireworks this year are primarily concerned with air quality. Responsible use of fireworks fouls up the air just as badly as irresponsible use of fireworks. It's not about people burning themselves, others and property (because that's been an issue for years); it's about the air quality going over 200 last week. You can be as responsible as you want with your firework display and it's still going to emit smoke and chemicals that will contribute to the already abysmal air quality.

posted by Cnote1980 on Jun 30, 2008 at 05:01 PM

If you're so concerned about air quality, why don't you walk or ride a bike to work, or anywhere you go for that concern? Or turn your electricity off, and use flashlights. How about you grow your own food, so you don't depend on diesel transportation to feed your family? Makes no sense huh. My family lights fireworks off once a year, once. everybody drives pollution 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, nobody's doing anything about it..... And so what if they're imported. They still make non profit organizations money. We depend on all types of foreign trade, so don't go singling out the firework industry just because they're mainly an asian based market. The banannas you buy, as well as the toyotas you drive don't cause a whole lot of concern for you. And they cost you money to drive, even after you buy them. If anything else, our careless use of energy will make this country forever dependent of foreign oil. How bout that....  Hmmm. This is just another example of people who want to blame irresponsibility on materials than people themselves. Furthermore, does anybody on here really realize how much we are already contributing to pollution with our cars, air conditioners, barbeque pits, tons of diesel emmisions, etc, etc. But take those away, and our life is extremely inconvenient. The issue isn't fireworks, that's a small part of it, it's our entire way of life.

I'm not trying to be argumentative. But we just have such a tendancy to want to ban everything in the world that causes problems, instead of using them wisely, and the way they were designed to. Fireworks were'nt meant to be destructive. But we make them that way. It's people. Change our ways. One of the wisest statement says "Change begins in the mirror." 

posted by sandrrrrrita on Jun 30, 2008 at 06:38 PM

I have to say that if you ban fireworks I think that the accidents would get worse with people getting a hold of illegal fireworks. Even now a lot of people use illegals which I feel are the problem with many of the fires. Legal fireworks are much safer and do not shoot up into the sky landing on home owner's roofs. In the early 1900's alcohol was made illegal, but people still managed to get a hold of alcohol. I think the same would happen if fireworks were illegalized. People just need to be more educated on the proper use of fireworks and parents need to be little more responsible regarding what their children are doing on that day. Fireworks do not harm people, its uneducated with fireworks that cause the harm.


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