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rightthinking - > Right Thinking -> Poster plan a fair compromise
Poster plan a fair compromise

It's over. After months of controversy and a level of media coverage generally reserved for celebrity wife-murderers, the great poster debate of 2007 is finally over.

Kern High School District trustees this week brought an end to the argument by voting to display posters that include our national motto, "In God We Trust," in every district classroom.

The locally designed poster, though quite different from the one originally proposed by trustee Chad Vegas, features the national motto along with the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and America's original motto, "E Pluribus Unum."

The approved poster is an elegant and fair compromise to Vegas' earlier proposal that the poster feature the national motto only. The compromise poster hits the target its supporters were shooting for -- civic education and patriotism -- and is sure to leave many students wondering what all the fuss was about.

Still, the compromise failed to appease some, including board President Bob Hampton, who was the only trustee to vote against the poster and, according to news reports, said "the spiritual side of a student belongs in the home and in the church -- not the school."

Fine. No official prayers, no hymns in school. We get it.

But, really, how does the placement of our national motto in public schools qualify as news? What is it that makes the motto more "spiritual" than some of the other historical documents already in place?

Our national motto is surely no more spiritual than the assertion in the Declaration of Independence that "We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights," yet naysayers in this debate inexplicably give that document and others with similar phrases a free pass.

Perhaps the term "Creator," even with a capital "C," is just vague enough to suit delicate sensibilities. More likely the suggestion to hang the original posters would have been more readily accepted had it been made by anyone other than a pastor.

Media speculation as to Vegas' real intentions and how the trustees might ultimately vote was rampant in the weeks leading up to Monday night's meeting. In the end, though, there was no good reason not to approve the poster.

"I knew we weren't going to lose this because it's an eminently reasonable proposal," Vegas said. "Students will be reminded of the historical foundations of their government -- that's it."

The motto debate had some folks so fired up, they didn't even seem to notice when, at the Oct. 1 meeting where Vegas first made his poster proposal, the board also granted a temporary waiver of the no-practice-on-Sundays policy to the Stockdale High School mock trial team. The exception gives the team an extra six practice hours per month that may be used on Saturdays or Sundays, said trustee Bryan Batey, who wrote the waiver.

"A parent requested and was granted a limited exception to the rule in order to accommodate their volunteer coaches," Batey said. "What can I say, I'm a pushover for kids who want to study and do a good thing."

It was the exception the team was hoping for last year, after the trustees voted to keep Sunday as a day of rest, a decision that caused a flap similar to the poster controversy. Vegas, who supported the no-practice-on-Sunday policy last year, voted last month to approve the waiver.

Critics of Vegas dismiss the board's decision to display the posters as part of Vegas's ultimate plan to shove Christianity down the throats of our unsuspecting students. If that's true, it's not obvious in his recent waiver vote or in the content of the patriotic poster he approved. It's a hysterical accusation that just doesn't hold up.

The poster serves as a symbolic glimpse of our country's precious documents and high ideals. It's a symbol that will hang in every classroom in the Kern High School District.

It's a done deal, done right.

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posted by rightthinking on Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 09:26 AM
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posted by linfestyp on Nov 11, 2007 at 07:55 PM

To say the controversy is over is rather myopic.  It is now just beginning.  The battle launched by Trustee Chad Vegas may have been won, but the war is far from over.  I wonder exactly what kind of "compromise" this poster is when it  shows true historical documents  that are blurred and basically unreadable, while they are being covered up by a fictitious document quoting the history of the motto In God We Trust quoted from the Boy Scouts of America. It's the modern equivalent of the Trojan Horse.  One can only imagine that if Vegas' next move is to put crosses up in the classroom, if the board "compromises" by using historical paintings that incorporate a cross instead.  Or maybe Vegas has been emboldened enough to finally get his way to introduce creation "science" to the curriculum.  Instead of adopting the only motto that should be voted on by the KHSD, "Just Say No to Chad," they seem to have unofficially pledged to uphold the motto, "Whatever Vegas Wants, Vegas Gets."

This is just another example of how the Bush Regime has encouraged Christian fundamentalists to seize power at local levels and revive the "us versus them" mentality that worked so well in the 50's.

 

posted by RoyTullis on Nov 11, 2007 at 09:08 PM
I can't believe it! Another "Bush Hater" blaming Bush for a local decision.  You people are unbelievable.
posted by NancyII on Nov 11, 2007 at 09:44 PM

Any excuse to bring Bush into a discussion huh Roy?  Think about it..I laughed out loud when I read that last sentence.  I'm still shaking my head over a very lame, weak, argument.

One good thing about Bush leaving office is that the "haters" will have to find another scapegoat.....and this next time it just may be a Democrat.

It rained today..I'm so grateful that I think I'll write Bush to let him know how much I appreciate his influence.

posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 12, 2007 at 09:49 AM
What a waste of $12,000. Somebody is making a huge profit from this. Anybody know who is producing these posters? I'm also wondering why Jacquie Sullivan is no longer footing the bill for "her" idea. Seems the original selling point was that it wouldn't cost the district money, but now it's costing $12,000 out of the supplies budget. Once again, the conservative members of the board board gets to promote their religious agenda and the students get shafted.

So, what happens if one of the posters is damaged by some sort of freak accident? Are they replaced at twice the cost or are they just taken down? How long are they required to be in the classrooms, 2 years, 10 years, 100 years? Just curious.
posted by TomW on Nov 12, 2007 at 10:02 AM
So let me get this straight:
Original proposal was we put "In God We Trust" on posters in the schools at no cost to the tax payer.
Compromise is we put "in God We Trust" on posters in the schools and we pay for it.

I suppose that Vegas will support an "In God We Trust" tax to pay for this or do we just take it out of the school lunch program?
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 12, 2007 at 10:12 AM
Raise taxes? Not a chance. The school district will just have to eat it. Kids don't need computers or books or silly stuff like that. Makes no difference to Vegas and Sullivan. He/they got what they wanted. I'm still wondering who gets the profit? There's no way these posters actually cost $12,000.

I don't think these posters should be mandatory. I thought that was an evil word in this town. Schools should decide whether they want the supplies money to be spent on meaningless posters or actual supplies.
posted by robbwillis on Nov 12, 2007 at 10:55 AM

It's a done deal, done right.

When that opinion comes from one that has stated "This country was founded as a Christian nation" and "those that deny it belong on the same shelf with Holocaust deniers", one has to worry whether the done deal was done "right" when it should have been done correctly. 

posted by sagefever on Nov 12, 2007 at 11:03 AM
From free to $12,000 ~ Is the money  going to the graphic artist who designed them and works for one of the board members,who owns a company that produces the posters ?
posted by rightthinking on Nov 12, 2007 at 02:49 PM

The posters will take $12,000 from a district budget of $330 million. According to the district spokesman, the amount will not result in an undue burden to the distrct - sorry to burst some knee-jerk assumptions, but the posters will not cause students to go without books, computors or lunch. Not to dismiss $12,000 as peanuts, but nobody - the graphic artist or the printer - will be making "a huge profit" as the posters will go into well over 2,000 classrooms, libraries and administration offices.

According to trustee Bryan Batey, the trustees decided not to deal with Sullivan's organization because they didn't want to be seen as endorsing a particular group, a decision with which I wholeheartedly agree.  Also, the poster design approved by the board likely all but eliminates any future litigation threat. Not that there was ever any grounds for litigation, but that doesn't stop some folks from filing suits anyway.

posted by TomW on Nov 12, 2007 at 11:06 PM
I'm putting together a few more posters and submitting them.  I hate government waste.
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