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We have to spend money to keep from going bankrupt...
And so says Spongebob Hairpiece Biden...I wonder how much of our dollars he paid for his fake tan?? This moron is second in command of the biggest ponzi scheme ever to be shoved up the arses of the American People... 58 comments from 16 users
posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 16, 2009 at 04:48 PM
posted by
learnem
on Jul 16, 2009 at 04:56 PM
1. get rid of all the illegal aliens that is a BURDEN on the tax payers of this country 2. get rid of unions (yes i am a teacher, and I would like to see my union be DISSOLVED) 3. English only..cut down on some government waste 4. start giving tax breaks to new businesses and to married people to have children (to create more tax payers....im sue the gay mafia will hate this idea) 5. can the environmental crap for a decade, as it is a definite burden on our economy. 6. vote out ALL constituents in EVERY elected position that can be.....and let the new ones know up front, any sign of corruption, youre out too. get all this done within a year, and within a year more, we would see economic growth...not more unemployment, like this DIMulous has brought (gee could it be that the stim money went to BHO's buddies in corporations, and not to the people of the US?) that is what I would do I trully believe that our government is systematically destroying all small businesses with rules and laws, so that the government wouldbe poised to take over all industry in this country...communism...as i have been crying out for over 2 years now posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 04:56 PM
1. Send the 26 million people who are in this country illegally back home. 2. Quit spending money we don't have. 3. Produce something of value and sell it. 4. Give people and incentive to work, rather than punishing them for every achievement... I don't think heeding Bidens advice to keep buying cheap crap from China is really the way to get the economy back on track.....I don't know of any bankruptcy court that would allow a company to "spend money faster than you bring it in" in order to avoid bankruptcy... posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 04:58 PM
Agree with learnem. I say vote everysingle person in congress out of their position at the next election they are up for. I think it is time for term limits. posted by
learnem
on Jul 16, 2009 at 04:59 PM
i like the way you think RM....BUT...im thinking its closer to 100 million, than to 26 million
also get rid of the anchor baby law posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:02 PM
5. Go after companies and businesses that knowingly hire illegal labor and give illegal aliens an incentive to be here. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:04 PM
6. Require all public agencies and schools to use English only. 7. No services to be provide to people in this country illegally. This includes welfare, healthcare, education, etc. Remove the incentives to be here illegally.
posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:10 PM
1. get rid of all the illegal aliens that is a BURDEN on the tax payers of this country That would cost money, and it wouldn't gaurantee they wouldn't come back. 2. get rid of unions (yes i am a teacher, and I would like to see my union be DISSOLVED) That would be unconstitutional 3. English only..cut down on some government waste Specifically, how would it cut down on "government waste?" Personally, I think such an idea is unfair. 4. start giving tax breaks to new businesses and to married people to have children (to create more tax payers....im sue the gay mafia will hate this idea) I'll support new business tax breaks, but not for married people to have children - that's a bit radical 5. can the environmental crap for a decade, as it is a definite burden on our economy. So, you enjoy breathing in toxicity? Ok, let's get rid of environmental protections - you'll be spending more money filtering the water you drink and the air you breathe. You better start planting that garden if you don't have one, and make sure you have enough livestock to feed your family, because without "environmental crap," you run the risk of getting sick, and then having to pay more money in doctor bills. If I'm misunderstanding your definition of "environmental crap" - please clarify it for me. The issue I'll agree with you on has to do with the whole delta smelt thing. 6. vote out ALL constituents in EVERY elected position that can be.....and let the new ones know up front, any sign of corruption, youre out too. Laughable - good luck on that one. I trully believe that our government is systematically destroying all small businesses with rules and laws, so that the government wouldbe poised to take over all industry in this country...communism...as i have been crying out for over 2 years now What is communism? Define it for me without mentioning Obama or anything in this country currently. posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:12 PM
Personally, I'd rather we legalize the immigrants - then they'll be on the official books and we'll see increased income tax revenues. posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:20 PM
Personally, I'd rather see the government go after the businesses that facilitate the process. they are perpetuating history by making billions (and a bailout) off cheap labor to teh detriment of people that need (or at least claim to) jobs. The banks were trying to bring in foreign labor (albeit legal with the help of their lobbyists) to increase profits during the boom times and now they have bailout money. The American people are getting played and don't even know what times it is (hey, I sound like somebody). posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:24 PM
posted by
donmason
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:30 PM
"4. start giving tax breaks to new businesses and to married people to have children (to create more tax payers" Ahh, our resident idiot is at it again. We already do this, and have for years now. Child tax credit and dependent deductions. Any productive asset purchased for a business is a tax write off. Rent is a write off. Supplies are a write off. Insurance is a write off. 55% of my gross is a write off. BTW: Until you work for the private sector, you pay no net taxes. "I trully believe that our government is systematically destroying all small businesses with rules and laws, so that the government wouldbe poised to take over all industry in this country...communism...as i have been crying out for over 2 years now" I've been in business for almost 30 years now, and doing fine. Maybe if you had the Cajones to be a businessman, you'd know how business works in the real world. "get rid of unions (yes i am a teacher, and I would like to see my union be DISSOLVED)" That's very simple for you to do. Just work in a private school. Oh, wait. Then you'd only be paid what you're worth. posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:42 PM
Very true. The idea of shipping illegals on a plane back to home countries is impossible (and laughable). It doesn't make economic sense. Blaming illegals for America problems is the wrong answer. They are treated like a proverbial mistress in that they are admired behind closed doors but shunned in the public. Look around CA. Someone is hiring them. They are cogs in the American machine of circulating dollars. They work for cheap, they have purchasing power, and they help prop up the American economic system (i.e. cheap labor force that buys stuff). How would towns like Selma, Fowler, or Wasco survive without immigrants willing to work in the fields for 2 bits (only to give their soul to the company store)? posted by
paxchristi3
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:44 PM
And last, but not the least, quit polluting the environment with these so we don't have to drown ourselves some more with the cap-and-trade scam:
posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:54 PM
Personally, I'd rather see the government go after the businesses that facilitate the process. Yes, like hospitals that treat illegals. Companies that hire illegals. Stores that sell to illegals. Government institituions that serve illegals.. I think we finally agree on something, huh Jfrancis?? posted by
donmason
on Jul 16, 2009 at 05:57 PM
Thanks Observer. I'd like nothing better than a single payer government plan. My medical insurance is my biggest single expense, reduces my net profit, and takes away money I'd otherwise put back into the real economy. Yeah, and if I get sick, they'll probably cancel me. Their lawyers can whip my lawyer any day. posted by
paxchristi3
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:07 PM
On second thought, those Obama coins may actually help the environment and alleviate the need for the cap-and-trade scam. I should've read what Billy Mays had to say about them: http://radioactiveliberty.c... posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:10 PM
I think we finally agree on something, huh Jfrancis?? Not quite but we're getting there. Stores should be able to sell to whomever has the dollars (I'm a socialist not a communist). Hospitals should treat anybody that comes through their doors. If businesses really want the public to believe that they care about the American people then they should show it. It would probably cut into their bottom line but they would be helping address the issue. The way you spell my name makes it less foriegn. Was that on purpose? posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:11 PM
Why not a single payer government housing plan? A single payer government legal plan?? A single payer insurance plan?? Why just stop and health care?? posted by
donmason
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:12 PM
"They are treated like a proverbial mistress in that they are admired behind closed doors but shunned in the public. Look around CA. Someone is hiring them. " Certainly, mostly corporate farming companies in these parts. And they'll remain because big business loves them. Abe Lincoln didn't abolish slavery, it just went underground, and still serves wealthy farming interests. posted by
donmason
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:15 PM
Well Ron, do you purchase your own health insurance? If so, what does it cost? If not, why do you allow someone to take care of you. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:26 PM
$1400 per month. Don. And it is $1400 a month because I am subsidizing people who refuse to take care of themselves...Not because the health care system is trying to make a buck... Do you aspire to live in government housing?? Why do you aspire to have the government provide your health care?? posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:27 PM
Abe Lincoln didn't abolish slavery, it just went underground, and still serves wealthy farming interests. Actually it went mainstream and global. That's how we get really cheap fruit and to top it off, the government subsidizes the whole operation! They call it neo-liberal economics (Gimme that old trickle down religion). posted by
drilnliftcrude
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:28 PM
what do you propose as an alternative to getting the economy back on track? A 12 month federal tax holiday for all Americans and corporations. posted by
jfrancais
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:34 PM
Do you aspire to live in government housing?? I do. It's awesome!!! I even have someone dump my trash and cut the grass. No utility bill, I get a check from the government on the 1st and the 15th, and there is minimal crime. I even have a personal trainer I meet with every morning at 6am and can play on a golf course less than a mile from my house. I live in a socialist utopia. posted by
tonyh
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:39 PM
Hey learnem, "6. vote out ALL constituents in EVERY elected position that can be.....and let the new ones know up front, any sign of corruption, you're out too." Vote out ALL what????? I think the word you were looking for is incumbents. Constituents are the people who put the politician in office to represent them in government. Incumbents are those who are running for re-election for the same office. If you really are a Teacher, I'd expect you to be intelligent enough to not use words without knowing the definition. Doing this reflects poorly upon the whole teaching profession.
posted by
paxchristi3
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:39 PM
posted by
donmason
on Jul 16, 2009 at 06:40 PM
Do you aspire to live in government housing?? Why do you aspire to have the government provide your health care?? Because I'm tired of 25% of my premiums going to non productive executive staff and stockholders. I'm tired of paying more because I'm not in a large insurance pool. I'm tired of being afraid I'll be cancelled. I'm all for making a buck, as long as the buck earned comes from producing something tangible, instead of fees, salaries, bonuses, and dividends for simply shuffling paper and cutting checks. I don't want the government to provide health care. I want them to provide the insurance pool. Either way, we will still be subsidizing those who destroy their own health. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 07:31 PM
Jfranciais, I have no problem having the government provide housing for the military, as constitutionally mandated. Glad you enjoy your digs.
But the goverment hasn't been that successful providing goverment housing for those outside the military. Maybe that is why the founding fathers did not call housing a "right". Cabrini-Green and Robert Taylor Homes, true liberal success stories...
posted by
paxchristi3
on Jul 16, 2009 at 08:21 PM
Just watched the opening shots on Bill O'Reilly's show that focused on Obamacare. Bill and Laura Ingraham had a bit of a dust-up over whether Switzerland's universal health care has its merits (Bill thinks so as long as strict controls are in place but no so much for Laura). Both aren't thrilled with the idea of redistributing the wealth to pay for it. That got me fearing for my young sons, who could have a nice future as architects based on their interest in skyscrapers, bridges and drawing. All I could think of is how galling it'd be that they'd have to fork over nearly half their earnings (if not more by then) to help provide for the folks who will be living in the housing projects that they designed. Indeed, socialism at its best. posted by
hotandfoggy
on Jul 16, 2009 at 08:26 PM
I didn't read the article, but America does have to reduce its consumerism. Those who say English only, what do you think about people using American Sign Language? posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 08:55 PM
I didn't read the article, but America does have to reduce its consumerism. That is not what the dumbest VP in history is saying. He says we have to spend more or we will go bankrupt... posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 16, 2009 at 09:06 PM
Abe Lincoln didn't abolish slavery Nor did he ever intend to. Those who say English only, what do you think about people using American Sign Language? For the win. posted by
paxchristi3
on Jul 16, 2009 at 09:32 PM
Just mulling and mulling here over what would've been if McCain and Palin had won ... Those who say English only, what do you think about people using American Sign Language? Those being screwed by George Soros Inc. certainly can be justified in displaying a certain digit in his direction. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 16, 2009 at 09:56 PM
posted by
sagefever
on Jul 17, 2009 at 09:22 AM
"...dumbest VP in history..." I hereby nominated Spiro Agnew,the second VP to resign from office in United States history. However he did coin one phrase that might need a second look: "nattering nabobs of negativism".
posted by
casooner90
on Jul 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Out of curiosity, what do you propose as an alternative to getting the economy back on track? An IQ test at the polls. Maybe we won't make another mistake by voting for person's color rather than his / her policies. Of course, other ideas on this post aren't bad either, but they are more reactive. posted by
FloridaStateGrad
on Jul 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM
An IQ test at the polls. Maybe we won't make another mistake by voting for person's color rather than his / her policies. If only that were constitutional.
Either way, I hope that your comment wasn't one-sided - I agree, no one should be voting based upon skin color. posted by
Btowntv007
on Jul 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
An IQ test at the polls. Maybe we won't make another mistake by voting for person's color rather than his / her policies. Wow, that statement just set us back a 100 plus years. While we are at it, why not make it that if your grandparents didn't vote you can't either. Or women, cause they should be home cooking or something. I can solve all of this countries money problems. Abolish the IRS, and inact the Fairtax. Then you can start getting taxes out of everyone that consumes something in this country. And pay for everything and then some of that the government wants to do, and it levels the playing field.
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Gosh, why not just start a poll tax. That way those scummy poor folk wouldn't be able to vote for a dang liberul. What an elitist. I hate to break this to you, but a lot of people did vote for his policies. I'm one of them. posted by
sagefever
on Jul 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
That's the thing. I don't think modern conservatives want to do anything simply for the good of the country. Well, unless it helps them personally they don't. Especially when it comes down to helping support anybody else with medical care, etc. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 17, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Progressive. What say you pay the same rate of taxes as the top 1%, since it is so good for the country. How bout it? Ready to put your money where your foot is?? posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM
That's the thing. I don't think modern conservatives want to do anything simply for the good of the country. Especially when it comes down to helping support anybody else with medical care, etc. ProgressivePete2 LOL. To freaking funny... Freshman Dems oppose Pelosi’s tax increase posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
I'd be more than happy to pay the same rate ron. As long as everybody in the country gets healthcare. posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM
I find it interesting to hear all the comments from conservatives that suggest we would be better of as a society if people that had subsidized housing were just left out on the streets (shame on you single moms) to starve and have people die on the steps of a hospital because they weren't born in the right country or are poor. Compassionate conservatism is alive and well. posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:14 PM
I think we should send the homeless, and those living in Obamas Chicago government housing to Afganistan. They certainly would be safer in that war zone than the one in Obamas Chicago... posted by
Btowntv007
on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:17 PM
Come on pete, don't you know that conservatives only want to be compasionate when it serves them...whoops, I mean thier wallets....
posted by
ronmexico
on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:23 PM
Oh please Democrats, give us more of your compassion, like Cabrini-Green and some more Robert Taylor homes. Compassion at its finest.... posted by
Btowntv007
on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:44 PM
I don't see how gang members running down two chicago public housing sectors have anything to do with compassionate democrats. It sounds more to me like soecity as a whole leaving a group of people behind.
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