just another one of those poor misguided pit pups doing what they do *BEST*

Wheres the San Diego rescue crew that flew in here last week when we really need em..or do they just like the little safe ones they can turn into media events??

"after he reportedly entered his brother's front yard when the brother wasn't home."

He entered the yard.

Obviously NOT the dogs fault.

That's exactly why I have dogs.

He did his job.

(I do feel bad for the man, but what do people expect)

Good question, Sioux.

"It's something that wouldn't necessarily qualify for a hearing," she added.

That's scary.

This is exactly why all Pit Bulls should be mandatorily "fixed", licensed and limited to one per household- the rest should be euthanized. They are not "pets", they are weapons, pure and simple.

 tchudilowsky He did his job.

are you freakin kidding me?? it was his brother for christs sake..if it had been a burglar or rapist i would agree..but a family member that had no doubt been there before a few times visiting..

protecting out of control animals like this is ridiculous..i dont know what kind of dogs you own but if they attacked your sister or your parents or nieces and nephews..you would be just okie dokie with this "because they were doing their *JOB*???? hahah im sure glad im no related to you.... i sure hope you tell them how you feel before they just do a drop by around the holidays..and god forbid nobodys home

 I'll tell you what.. If ANYONE opens my gate and enters my yard they deserve what they get.

Sorry if you think pit bulls, or ANY dog, should know it was a family member. To me that makes no sense at all!

People can hate on pits all they want. It's the lame owners who ruin a good dog.

Blame the dern human not the dog.

In this situation the owner sounds stupid. But the dog did the RIGHT thing.

Honestly..Do you REALLY think it should have know it was the owners brother??

Another dramatic story from the east side ghetto...

I'm not a fan of Pit Bulls but the guy entered the property unbeknownst to the brother.  The dog was being a rational actor in protecting the property.

 I certainly don't think the dogs are responsible in the same way the owner is- I just think all of them (the dogs) should be put down. Any animal that inflicts that kind of bodily harm regardless of the reason isn't a "pet"- it's a threat to the community. What's it gonna take? The death of a child?

I am her sister and if she told me to stay out of her yard i would!  All dogs  have the potential to be dangerous not just pit bulls.    I feel bad for the guy but he obviously has a problem understanding!    I had a rott/pit dog he was the sweetest dog, but come in my yard when I wasn't standing beside him and he would have ate you!   Best watch dog i ever had!  

What struck me about this story is someone obviously bothered to whip out the cell phone to snap pictures of the attack, but only the 69 year old guy with a cane bothered to try to help the guy. Forget the dogs for a moment. How calloused are people becoming that they'll stand by and take pictures while some guy is being mauled, possibly to death, in front of their eyes?

You know if the dogs were being aggressive earlier in the day and the owner knew this, why didn't the owner lock his gate?  can't  blame just the dogs!

Just about any medium-sized to large dog can bite someone and inflict harm.  Do we just do away with all dogs over 75lbs then?  They are not robots that can be controlled.  They have brains and emotions which make them react to their environment.

Having an animal that will attack other human beings is not only incredibly disturbing (especially if you're proud of it)- it's cowardly. All it means is that instead of using a gun to shoot someone yourself you'll use an animal to remove yourself from responsibility. It's sickening.

In all honesty, I don't want a watch dog that will attack someone coming in my yard.  I want one that will raise holy hell and alert me and my neighbors that something isn't right.

Unfortunately dogs don't know the difference between a 10 year old climbing a fence to get a ball and an actual burglar and I don't want them to have to make that distinction.     Most wont go in a yard where a dog is raising cain anyway.

I'm with Lana, if my family told me not to go on the yard then I wouldn't..no matter what his reason was.  I had a Queensland/heeler mix once that would let you come in the yard and roam around but he'd bite you on your way out.  Guess that was the "heeler" part.  LOL.

Shwaine, I thought the same thing. 

My gate is locked at all times.  Not just to protect people from the dog but to make sure people don't open my gate and leave it ajar and let my dog out.  It's for HER safety.

I had a little dog. that would do that too Nancy...I miss that dog.   Its not cowardly! Are Policemen with  dogs cowardly?   What happens if your asleep and you don't hear an intruder....Could you get to your gun once he has a gun or knife to your head?....Your dog will hear them and possibly save your life!  

We have a 75 lb. Black Lab mix that we rescued from the Mt Vernon animal. She has a low tolerance for strangers coming to the house which is why she has a 30' run that she is locked while we are away. If we are home she is still locked in the run (to maintain the routine) from 8 AM to 5 PM. If people come over she is left outside unless they are friends that she's ok with.

We know the boundaries for our pet.

Clearly neither the owner nor the dogs in question knew the appropriate boundaries.

Lana, my point too.  My dog barks at the guy who is renovating the house next door.  She still isn't used to him and raises cain when he walks down along the sode of the house.   She's never been tested that I know of so I don't know that she won't bite but if I'm with her she might lick the skin off their hand. 

She patrol the outside and alerts me when something isn't right.  Zack tears the door up and barks hysterically if anyone comes near the house.  Or in the street in front of the house..lol.  Between them, no one could sleep through it.

 Lana- you just proved my point: Police have dogs which are used as WEAPONS, much the same way guns are. They are not "companions" or family pets, they are tools used by law enforcement.

Having a pet should bring some amount of security. I know that no one is likely to stay in our house of Maddie is loose. But her function IS NOT to protect me- it's to be a friend and companion. Protection is a by-product, not the sole purpose.

Further, I am adamantly supportive of gun control. I would never have a gun in my home, But we're getting away from the topic on hand.

 I don't have guns in my house because my child is more important to me than owning a gun.

I have 3 little dogs (the alarms) and 1 big dog (the enforcer)   :0)

 My dogs are well trained. 

Actually there are only about 6 members of my family I would warn about my dogs. The rest can stay away :0)

More detail on the story...

http://www.bakersfield.com/...

Thanks Nancy,

 I feel sad for the guy. What a horrible experience,

BUT,

Here's what was written :

He is not a frequent visitor and the dogs were not familiar with him.

But Tuesday afternoon, Herrera apparently arrived at the home before Romero's return and, inexplicably, decided to enter the yard. A "beware of dog" sign is clearly posted on the home's chain-link fence.

"He said he has no fear of dogs," Davis said. "Now he probably does."

So I still believe it was not the dogs fault. At all.

Miles, you stated "Having an animal that will attack other human beings is not only incredibly disturbing", ok where do I go to get all the darn cats in the neighborhood euthanized? ALL of them bite people same as ALL pits bite people, same goes for those yappy little rat dogs, every one of them should be put down because they have that little dog syndrome & I have been bit more than once by em. 

The guy went in the yard after he was told don't go in, sounds like a "here's your sign" award is pending. If you are told not to go in the yard because the dog is agressive, guess what..... Don't go in the dang yard, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

As for your dog, if someone got into the run & got bit, who's fault is that? The dogs, yours or the dummy that went in there? My vote would be for the dummy that went in there.

Last question, why do you adamently support gun control?  

Miles, police dogs are not vicious. They are trained according to play instinct to bite and hold, not chew. They can be called off with a word by the handler. By the way, guns are good. If you can teach your kid to not stick his tongue in an electrical socket, you can teach him respect for firearms.

Abbott, little dogs are good burglar alarms. They are so nervous that they yap at every little noise. A flock of geese are better. They are territorial and will raise a ruckus by honking and can't be bought-off by treats.

dragoon, I agree on the little dog part, geese are mean, especially when you are fishing streams in their nesting area lol. Are we going to see you Sa morning out a KSS? I gotta test a few repairs on a few pistols after the shoot lol.

I have had the same experience as this guy had but not as bad and it was on the eastside as well. About 8 or 9 months ago i was entering my friends house but the thing is i came to his house many times before but in the day time. This time it was in the night and by the way my friend does not have a dog sign on his property. Anyway i went to his house to pick up a dvd that i left there and my mom was parked across the street from the house because she did not like the neighborhood that he lived in, so i opened the gate and all of a sudden his pitbull came out of no where and went straight for my arm. Fortunately he bit me only once on the arm but it hurt, so after he bit me i ran across the street where my mom was parked but the scary thing is before i got to the car i tripped on my own feet and fell on the middle of the street. Luckily for some reason the dog didn't go passed the side walk and so i got back up really fast and went inside the car. In the end i only had a small bit on my forearm and a small scrape on my elbow from falling on the street.

I know how that guy felt because i had the same thing happened to me and i have to admit i was pretty scared at first. I think if the guy knew there was a pitbull in the yard then he shouldn't have went in the yard, but on the other had i agree with Sioux, he didn't deserve it and the pits took it way to far. I can also see if it was a real killer or someone that was hurting a innocent person to attack them like the pits did, but this guy didn't do anything bad except going in the yard. So in all i can see the pitbulls attacking because they thought it was a burglar but i still think they took it way to far. But the dogs also shouldn't be put down even though i hate pitbulls.

This guy was in the wrong by entering even though there was a sign on the gate, but still i feel more sorry for the innocent guy than the dogs.

i like how the owner, when he heard how much he was going to be charged for the quarantine, all of a sudden didnt want the dogs any more

my dogs bark but they have yet to bite because we have takin the time to find an alternate control to prevent it..if they are here to steal or harm anything all bets are off they deserve what they get....

anyone who comes over is introduced to our dogs and they learn their names..they are trained to shut up and go into pet me mode once the person calls their name..i dont care if they have only been here one or two times it works..to allow this kill instinct just because the owner isnt around and some one who knows the family gets bit for lack of proper training is plain and simple assinine and irresponsible on the owners part..

shwaine for once we agree

I always accused my hair ball of having little dog syndrome until I read up on it.  Dogs actually have no sense of size, they are just dogs.  One reason people have so much trouble with little dogs is because while it might be cute for Fifi to jump on your leg when you enter the room, it isn't so funny for Big Bad Bubba to do the same thing.

Little dogs get away with sitting on the couch with you while the St Bernard is told no.  The little dog syndrome is actually an owners syndrome and not the dogs. 

If a little dog nips it won't disembowel you.  On the other hand if a pit bull, Rottie, German Shepherd  etc. bites......

Abbott, yes, I will be there to help teach the students the joys of safe gun handling and rifle marksmanship. Perhaps some enterprising soul might open a school for the instruction of safe dog handling and socialization. Maybe pit bull owners need to undergo a background check and ten day waiting period in addition to a written as well as a skill test before taking possession of their puppy.

I have a problem with the fact that the male dog was not neutered and the two females were pregnant.  That alone displays that he is not a responsible pet owner.  He is willing to breed more pit bulls but not willing to pay for the quarantine?  There  is something wrong with this picture.

I think the pit bull attacked to protect his females and their babies.  Understandable behavior.

I have a problem with the guy that was attacked..Couldn't he not read or understand verbal instructions? Herrera's brother, Salvador Romero, 38, lives in the home where the attack took place.  Romero told animal control officer Tammy Davis he had told his brother to stay out of the yard after the dogs were aggressive when Herrera visited earlier in the day.

I'm not a pitbull fan but they were guarding their territory. 

vwilroy I think the pit bull attacked to protect his females and their babies.  Understandable behavior.

sounds like you need a lesson in animal behaviour..a male dog could give two turds about protecting a female or her litter..infact if a pup heads his way the male with either run for cover or bite the puppy..the female is good for only one thing and thats only for a couple of weeks during her heat cycle..after that its every dog for them selves at the food dish..they dont think like we do..they either respect each others territory or they will fight to the death ( or atleast a healthy vet bill) to defend their space if that respect isnt there..

they reserve their love and companionship for their beloved owners not so much each other especially if their not related.....no warrented hero worshipping here..simple out of control untrained killer pack mentality..

on and off we have hosted training classes out here for a few years in the past..we were forced to make a descion as to whether or not it was wise to allow irresponsible pet  owners on our property that quit possibly could bring in an new  strain of parvo etc that would remain in our yard and possibly effect us or our other clients animals..one of the guys helping us train was going through it because he had been exposed at dog shows and bringing in outside dogs to train at his home..so we knew the potential was there..

the warnings were up at the vets office about the new strains and we innoculated but thats not too say it could happen again and catch us off guard..we love our family pets too much too take a stupid chance lke that..

Just another normal day in Bakersfield, when the pit bulls attack again.

Even if the attack was justified, does anyone really believe that the owner had any control over his dogs.  It took a whack by a cane for the dogs to get disoriented, possibly saving the victim's life. 

Yep, I agree with siouxcirtyranch.  These dogs most likely attacked due to the pack mentality.  And regardless of breed.

I once heard a story about mutt, a pit bull, and a purebred lab retriever with no history of aggression, playing with a young toddler.  The pit bull initiated the attack, then the two other dogs including the labrador retriever, joined in.  The result was that the toddler was hospitalized, the mutt and pit bull quarantined, and the labrador retreiver euthanized by its owner.

"Maybe pit bull owners need to undergo a background check and ten day waiting period in addition to a written as well as a skill test before taking possession of their puppy."

Will NEVER happen, dogs are not inanimate objects, Kalifornistan only requires a class & waiting periods on those lol.

I am an owner of a pit bull My dog would not attack anyone,  If the dog showed signs before this event Iˆ would put my dog down without hesitation. Some People have no common sense,If there is a sign ,don't go in the backyard what a moron .  I don't know if the man can read. Not all pit bulls are bad just bad owners!!!! This goes for all dogs not just pit bulls

bclyde..i bet you i bet you i could put your dog in a situation where it would attack..NEVER say NEVER

The point is..these dogs were bad enough to rip a mans arm and stomach.  At some point you have to accept the fact that it doesn't matter who's fault it is now, the deed is done.  Would you want any of those dogs in your yard with your kids?  Would you be willing to adopt them..take them home with you?  Are you ok with them being part of a money generating mini puppy mill?  What about the puppies?  Will they go to more "bad" owners?

I can put a dog of ANY BREED in a situation were it will bite, same as I can put a ANY PERSON in a situation were they will fight, you are right though, never say never,  it's not just pits, heck I bet I can get your dog, cat, mouse, snake, bird, etc to bite so why just go after 1 breed of 1 species of animal.

 Tell ya what- when Corgi's or Labs outnumber Pits in documented cases of injury and maulings then I'll reconsider. Until then, I still believe that ALL Pits should be fixed and licensed like guns.

Quite honestly, people of quality and proper up-bringing do not own Pit-Bulls and claim them as "pets".

These dogs are More dangerous than guns in that you could have one laying on a table and walk by many many times even yelling at it and the gun won't jump up and go off by it self, how ever with breads such as the Pit Bulls they are deadly weapons in and of them selves. These breads need to be treated that way! 

In this case yes the dogs where in their yard and didn't attack outside of the yard there still needs to be some responsibility for having this type of deadly weapon within such close proximity to the public. What if it had been a child entering the yard to sell cookies or magazines?We might be going to a funeral instead. Just a thought.