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siouxcityranch - > -> Analysis: 10 percent jobless is Obama's new world
Analysis: 10 percent jobless is Obama's new world

WASHINGTON – For months he had warned it was coming but that didn't ease the political shockwaves for President Barack Obama when unemployment topped 10 percent.

A year after his election Obama finds it increasingly difficult to blame the sour economy on George W. Bush or offer reassurances that jobless Americans will soon find work.

Never mind that the economy itself grew in the last quarter, that the recession by most accounts is over and that the number of jobs lost in October was less than one-third the number of job losses at the start of his presidency.

At 10.2 percent, the October unemployment climbed to chart-topping heights unseen in more than a quarter century. The bottom line is that more than 15 million Americans are out of work and 3.5 million lost their jobs while Obama was president. Expected or not, this is Obama's new reality.

"I won't let up until the Americans who want to find work can find work, and until all Americans can earn enough to raise their families and keep their businesses open," the president declared Friday.

That's a hopeful promise but not very realistic.

And it shows that, for the time being, action to tackle record budget deficits will simply have to wait.

Obama, appearing at the White House Rose Garden on Friday three hours after the jobless numbers were made public, said his administration was looking at additional spending for roads and bridges and energy efficient buildings. Additional tax cuts for businesses and steps to increase credit for small businesses were also on the bill.

The new unemployment rate also came on the same day Obama signed a $24 billion bill to extend jobless benefits and spur homebuying

In a sign of Democratic thinking, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, who heads Congress's Joint Economic committee, said Democrats would consider new aid to states, an "infrastructure bank" to increase construction jobs and small business tax credits.

"I think we're witnessing a political renaissance about concerns about jobs," Lawrence Mishel, president of the labor-leaning Economic Policy Institute, said approvingly. "It will put the deficit concerns into their appropriate context."

What all this amounts to is another stimulus for the economy. Though don't look for Democrats to call it that; Democrats have a tough enough time debating the merits of the $787 billion stimulus Congress passed earlier this year.

Republicans were quick to pounce on the proposals. Internal polling by the Republican National Committee after Republican gubernatorial victories in New Jersey and Virginia showed that Republican candidates could do well by arguing against additional spending while promoting job growth through tax cutting alone.

But in rhetoric and in deed, Obama is being forced to address an unemployment picture his economic team had long ago expected to avoid.

Many economists predict the jobless rate will rise again, peaking at 10.5 percent sometime next year before employment makes a turnaround in the spring. That still means unemployment will remain high for some time. The administration's own projections still see unemployment at 8 percent by the end of 2011.

Such lingering discomfort can have economic and political consequences.

Consumer spending likely won't increase rapidly. Foreclosures will continue to rise, hitting not just subprime borrowers, but prime mortgage holders as well. Commercial real estate lending, already teetering, could plunge in the face of rising vacancy and loan delinquency rates.

Politically, Democrats are staring at some damage — and the fear of unemployment — themselves. Exit polls Tuesday in the New Jersey and Virginia GOP victories showed that the economy was the top issue in the minds of voters. And national public opinion surveys show that a majority of the public doesn't believe Obama's economic policies are working.

Couple that with traditional losses by the president's party during midterm elections and Democrats have cause to worry about their own fate.

The unemployment number masks the fact that job losses slowed compared to past months — the work force went down by 190,000 in October compared to 219,000 in September. What's more, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said job losses in August and September had been overstated by 91,000.

In addition, the economy grew by 3.5 percent in the third quarter. And Christina Romer, a top Obama economic adviser, noted an increase in temporary service jobs. "That's often the first sign of firms kind of dipping their toe back into hiring people," she said in an interview with The Associated Press.

But since the start of the recession in December 2007, 7.3 million Americans have lost their jobs and key sectors — construction, manufacturing and retail trade — are still seeing significant declines.

The president has not been helped by reports of flaws in the administration's count of jobs created by the $787 billion stimulus.

Ten months into the job, Obama did not even try to lay the blame for the economy at Bush's feet, as he has in the past. His only criticism was implied.

"When we first came into office, our immediate goal was to stop the free fall that caused our economy to shrink at an alarming rate," he said. "We've succeeded in achieving that goal, as our economy grew last quarter for the first time in a year."

But Obama has already taken ownership of the economy.

Republicans, he noted wryly during a July speech in Michigan, were eager to blame him for the economy.

"That's fine," he added, "Give it to me!"

Four months later, it would be hard to give it back.

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Jim Kuhnhenn covers economics and politics for The Associated Press

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posted by Patrick319 on Nov 6, 2009 at 07:05 PM

That's cool. He can take responsibility for it. So, if the economy happens to improve in the next 3 years, will his critics credit him or just say 'oh, well, the economy is cyclical'? Keep in mind that he inheritted an already spiralling economy.

posted by Infowar on Nov 6, 2009 at 07:05 PM

The number is actually around 20%.


posted by ronmexico on Nov 6, 2009 at 07:20 PM

 That's cool. He can take responsibility for it.

He is not taking responsibility for it.  That is the problem..

posted by Patrick319 on Nov 6, 2009 at 07:33 PM

Ron-he is taking responsibility for it, fiscal conservatives simply don't agree on the steps he's taken thus far. And partisan bickering by both sides stunts any true change. Both sides are stonewalling the other. That's not Obama's fault.

posted by casooner90 on Nov 6, 2009 at 08:38 PM

The economy could improve, but what about the debt Obama will put on our kids and their kids and their kids...

 

posted by Infowar on Nov 6, 2009 at 08:59 PM

Obama is just a spokesperson. The financial collapse is being engineered by scum way above Obama.

posted by Patrick319 on Nov 6, 2009 at 08:59 PM

...which will mean nothing casooner if we continue to make cuts to education, healthcare, and social services that allow them to become healthy, informed, and employable adults. Its not fair to slight our children because THIS generation doesn't want to invest in their future. They will already be garnered with a debt; we might as well prepare them to be in a position to pay it.

posted by timmyg on Nov 6, 2009 at 09:03 PM

what about the debt "w" put us in and how many jobs were lost in those eight years? this is not a corperation where you can fire people. you wait for the next election to do that. we weren't smart enough to fire "w" after the first 4 years. so that means conservatives are just as spend happy as dems but the dems put it in american hands in stead of those wealth few(friends).At least i can say i didn't vote for "w" and i didn't vote for gore either.

posted by NancyII on Nov 6, 2009 at 09:30 PM

And the debt obama is putting our grandchildren in doesn't bother you at all?

posted by Logansdad on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Actually Patrick, Obama and his cronies still try to blame things on Bush. Go figure, just like some of you in this thread. So the real question is, if all the blame is on Bush, if the economy picks up will Bush get the credit also?


posted by JohnfromBakersfield on Nov 7, 2009 at 04:01 AM

10% eh? Back to Reagan numbers. I bet you guys are feeling comfortable right about now.


posted by casooner90 on Nov 7, 2009 at 06:52 AM

Patrick, to paraphrase, are you saying our kids are already in debt so piling on won't be that bad?   Does this work for individuals today?  A little bit of personal debt is same as big debt? 

John, 10% Reagan number?  Then what happens after?  We are at 10.2% official unemployment and could be high as 20% counting all those that have taken on temp jobs to make end meet.  The 10.2% is like the numbers during Carter administration when our parents were paying upwards of 10% interest on mortgage.

Check this out:  http://tipstrategies.com/ar... href="http://tipstrategies.com/archive/geography- of-jobs/">http://tipstrategies.com/ar...   Where will it stop and when does Obama's stimulus money kick in? How long will you drink the cool aid before it is too late and our kids are strapped with a debt they can't manage?  China has stopped buying US T bills - anyone know what that means?

It's one thing to justify the current admin, but its another to turn blind eye to him while he robs our future.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Nov 7, 2009 at 06:57 AM

What Hussein promised, and what Hussein has delivered.

The facts are coming in as to what He promised we would see if we passed His $787,000,000,000.00 stimulus and what we have gotten.  You can attach the results of that promise to the ones we're hearing about about the costs of His health care scheme.

Destroying America and giving fist bumps at the the White House.

posted by samheath on Nov 7, 2009 at 07:10 AM

I wonder if China is aware of the political kool aid here in America "Too big to fail?" If so, they aren't buying into it.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 07:55 AM

"And the debt obama is putting our grandchildren in doesn't bother you at all?"

not much of a choice ... kinda likke the choice we had with Jr's gratuitous war in the Middle East.

We killed other people's children for no reason. I wonder if Mr. Heath's god would be pissed at that ?

--virgil

posted by drilnliftcrude on Nov 7, 2009 at 08:12 AM

Obama lied.

Jobs died.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 08:14 AM

 

Jr. is sub-mental.

And half human.

--virgil

posted by drilnliftcrude on Nov 7, 2009 at 08:21 AM

But he saved jobs!  Let's not forget how President TruthChallenged counted those numbers. 

The government’s latest tally of stimulus jobs counted pay increases for existing workers as jobs saved ...  

Health and Human Services spokesman Luis Rosero defended the practice. “If I give you a raise, it is going to save a portion of your job,’’ he said.

Most of the inflated figures were like those cited in the 935 saved jobs reported by the Southwest Georgia Community Action in Moultrie, Ga.

Director Myrtis Mulkey-Ndawula said she followed the guidelines the Obama administration provided and multiplied her 508 employees by 1.84 - the percentage pay raise they received - and came up with 935 jobs saved.

 

 

posted by ronmexico on Nov 7, 2009 at 08:31 AM

 Director Myrtis Mulkey-Ndawula said she followed the guidelines the Obama administration provided and multiplied her 508 employees by 1.84 - the percentage pay raise they received - and came up with 935 jobs saved.

I recieved some stimuls money.  I gave my 3 employees each a  100% raise.  That results in  300 jobs saved.  Then I told them I could not afford the raise, and put their salarys back to what it was prior to the raise.  Then I went to Costco and bought myself a Cessna 172 for my personal company  use.  Ain't the stimulus great??

posted by ALICEN on Nov 7, 2009 at 08:37 AM

 sioux:  Oh, how I love the stories of how many jobs were "saved."  Isn't it really reassuring?  Heart-warming?  Doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy? 

I could never really understand how you count "saved" jobs.  Does it mean that you simply weren't fired or laid off?  I think there may be a little fuzzy (warm and fuzzy) math going on.  There aren't a bunch of bean-counters up there for nothing, I guess. 

My daughter is one whose job wasn't "saved."  She'll be among the numbers of additional lost jobs at the end of this month.  It seems that somebody is doing a pretty good job of counting the jobs lost, but I still can't figure out how a job is saved, particularly by the government or its so-called leader.

 

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 09:13 AM

 

 I think god must be punishing us ... with our so called leader.

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 09:45 AM

 

That could explain his African American origins.

--virgil

posted by motopoet on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I love the fact the someone is claiming to have saved jobs, since there is no real way to compute that. I guess after Pelosi's ignorant figure awhile back that America was losing..what was it..??..30..40 million jobs a month..Whatever it it was, it would have been more than the population of America in 18 months, well after that statement, I guess they CAN say they have saved jobs. All administrations take credit for things they had nothing to with and blame others for lingering problems. Not to do so would entail responsible behavior, and we all know that ain't happening in Washington, especially in this administration.

It's sad that, until the next two generations of liberals are dead and gone, that Bush will be blamed for everything from Alzheimers to Zoo's being closed. At least Obama will be a one term president(even his handlers can't save him from this debacle)and whomever takes his place can blame HIM for the mess. Ahhh..The circle of life!

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:24 PM

  Job loss due to our current recession brought on by Jr's economic policies will reach more than 12 percent before the end of the year !

I'm excited.

Happy Holidays !

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM

 A positive, however, is that the DOW is up !

That's what you call stimulus ( but, only, it should've been more ).

--virgil

posted by ALICEN on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM

 One zoo isn't closed yet.  Its resident is a chimp.  He's on TV as frequently as he can possibly get there -- compliments of the lame stream media.  I don't think he appears on Animal Planet.  Not yet anyway.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:31 PM

 

Oh, you gotta stop it, Alicen.

We don't understand what you're trying to say.

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Nov 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM

He's clean and articulate...

posted by siouxcityranch on Nov 7, 2009 at 01:41 PM

hay ron.. i wonder if Bidens wife told Joey that after he gave her that big fat kiss on the lips..

I mean Joey couldnt have made a statement like that up without first hand knowledge..

posted by ronmexico on Nov 7, 2009 at 02:01 PM

Joe seems to have more hair these days too.....Is that his wife's tongue in the back of the Post Turtles cheek??

posted by drilnliftcrude on Nov 7, 2009 at 02:11 PM

Is that his' creating that bulge half way down her neck?

posted by ronmexico on Nov 7, 2009 at 02:37 PM

LOL.. I didn't notice that.  You know what they say about clean articulate men!!

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