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smayer - > ToppStories -> Conservative bloggers want kids to stay home from school Tuesday
Conservative bloggers want kids to stay home from school Tuesday

When word started circulating that President Barack Obama would deliver a national address directly to the nation's students on Tuesday, it didn't take long for the decision to become politicized.

Some conservative bloggers and reportedly one local talk radio host have already called for parents to keep their kids home from schools that air the president's address, in which he will challenge students to work hard, set education goals and take responsibility for their learning.

That may not sound like an agenda to transform the children of conservatives into lifelong liberals, but some suggest Obama has Pied Piper-like powers.

"The fascist in chief is taking his special brand of brainwashing to the classroom. Keep your kids home," one blogger begged.

Which brings us to the question of the week: Does anyone take this seriously? Would you keep little johnny home from school to protect him from presidential brainwashing?

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posted by girlsmom on Sep 2, 2009 at 07:47 PM

I would if my child was in public school.

posted by tkozy on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:14 PM

girls

What if your child were in private school?

posted by tkozy on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:17 PM

I am not going to allow my children to listen to the State of the Union.

I am not going to allow my children to read the Gettysburg Address.

I will not allow my children to have Jewish friends.

I am going to be ignorant and pray to Zeus that my children will follow in my footsteps.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:30 PM

 

 

"The fascist in chief is taking his special brand of brainwashing to the classroom. Keep your kids home,"

That's Silly !

--virgil

posted by paxchristi3 on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:31 PM

It's happened before. It could happen again, this time Venezuela style  ...

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:40 PM

 

 

"It could happen again ... "

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

--virgil

posted by Shwaine on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:40 PM

This is about as dangerous to their little minds as watching any other press conference. I seriously have to wonder about a parent that would let their child miss a whole day of learning over an hour or so of politics they disagree with. If they are scared that their values and beliefs are so filmsy that it won't stand up to an hour of the President talking, they've got bigger problems than who is in the White House. What ever happened to talking to little Johnny when he gets home from school and dealing with any perceived misinformation from the school day then?

posted by vanityfair on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:49 PM

Can someone direct me to the actual speech Obama plans to deliver? I see many directives of how to proceed before and after but the content of the speech itself is hard to locate. 

Shwaine, it is my understanding (and I will not be offended if you correct me if I'm wrong : ) that this is not a one-day lesson; it is to be worked into the curriculum over time. Granted, my info on this is not entirely reliable which is why I'm asking the question.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:52 PM

 

 "Can someone direct me to the actual speech Obama plans to deliver?"

 

I heard it's a secret.

--virgil

posted by MostlyRussky on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:55 PM

Those "conservative bloggers" must be trying to raise children who are as ignorant as they themselves are.  Who would keep a kid from listening to our country's president?  Something tells me they weren't advocating such nonsense when Bush was in office.   

How paranoid and unpatriotic can you get? 

posted by paxchristi3 on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:57 PM

Here's one kid who definitely better stay home. It won't be a pretty scene whether he expresses tears of joy or tears of fear over our Dear Leader's speech: http://worldmysteries9.blog...

posted by casooner90 on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:59 PM

Isn't Obama himself politicizing first by taking his message directly to our children in the absence of their parents?  I will not mind if his message is appropriate with educational context, but I think he would be wrong to discuss any of the current hot topics / his agenda (healthcare, cap & tax, Obama's civilian army).  Pax's picture sure comes into my mind.  Remember, this is the guy that told us to report our friends if they are sending out 'fishy' emails.  Harmless?  Where does this lead to?

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 08:59 PM

I don't want my kid turned into brainwashed morons like in this Youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

THe Owe-bamma Youth.  

 

posted by smayer on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:06 PM

First off, this is not mandatory. Schools can opt out of airing the Obama address. In fact, so far it looks like many or most  schools in Bakersfield will not air it live. If we lived in a totalitarian society, it would be mandatory.

Also, if we lived in a totalitarian state, paxchristi3's offensive poster (the one that minimizes and demeans the deaths of millions in Nazi Germany during World War II) would not be allowed. Thankfully we have a strong Constitution that allows free speech, no matter how inane.

Sad.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:07 PM

 

um, That's a video of a youth development program for youthful offenders ... some of them want to be lawyers, doctors and auto mechanics,  and you call them morons .

--virgil

posted by mannyb1 on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:11 PM

Vanityfair you can go to   http://www.breitbart.com/ar... for a copy of the speech. It''s pretty much as as Shwaine said. Education and hard work are good. The department of education has verified this according to other articles.

Secret? it's all over the web. .

posted by tkozy on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:14 PM

Pax,

Yes indeed it has.

GOD with us!!!!

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:16 PM

 That's a video of a youth develop program for youthful offenders ... some of them want to be lawyers, doctors and auto mechanic and you call them morons .

No, I called them brainwashed morons....Quit taking me out of context.

Now what the heck does spouting off the "details" of Owe-bama's Health Care plan have to do with rehabilitating junior gang bangers??

posted by tkozy on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:16 PM

Does anyone remember where Bush Jr. was when the planes hit the twin towers.

And for 7 1/2 minutes there after?

posted by smayer on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:17 PM

A lot of school districts have a problem with stopping core instruction to accomodate this presidential address. That's a valid concern, and one that will keep many from participating. These students need to learn how to read and write.

But remember when George W. Bush sat in that classroom for several minutes after an aide whispered the news that the very center of American commerce had been attacked by terrorists?

Show of hands: How many think the school vetted Bush's comments before he was allowed to speak at that school?

Of course they didn't. And they shouldn't have. He was the president of the United States.

 

posted by vanityfair on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:20 PM

Does anyone remember where Bush Jr. was when the planes hit the twin towers.

tkrazy, he was reading from a book approved by the school district's curriculum. Any other questions?

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:21 PM

Does anyone remember where Bush Jr. was when the planes hit the twin towers.

 Reading The Pet Goat at Emma T. Booker Elementary School .  Not reading a policy speach to the entire failing US single payer public option school system...Sorry you can't recognize the difference...I have no problem if Owe-bama wants to read The Pet Goat to his kids at the PRIVATE SCHOOL Sidwell Friends.. But leave my damn kids alone...

posted by vanityfair on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:28 PM

Smayer: How many think the school vetted Bush's comments before he was allowed to speak at that school?

Of course they didn't. And they shouldn't have. He was the president of the United States.

What? Seriously? So he goes to one elementary school to read a book, gets the devastating news about the terrorist attacks in the process, and you expect him to do what? Jump up in a panic? Tell the little kids what's happening? Run out the door? Wow.

Bush reading A BOOK to one classroom of small children is completely different than the Department of Education issuing this new "speech" 

posted by honorerdieu on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:28 PM

Isn't that too extreme?  Are we so fearful and ignorant today that we have to resort to keeping our children home just because we disagree on politics?  Keeping the kids home to avoid one hour of speech sounds like censorship to me. 


posted by honorerdieu on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:32 PM

ronmexico and the others,

What will your kids be doing on Tuesday if they aren't going to school? 

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:32 PM

 

Manny,  

"Secret? it's all over the web. ."

Hey, it's what I heard ... from my brother, Bob.

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:33 PM

The news Bush got, like the rest of us, was that a twin engine plane had hit the twin towers.  That is the first report I remember.  And the news people were saying that it was a twin engine commuter plane or something along those lines.

How many think the school vetted Bush's comments before he was allowed to speak at that school?

He didn't give a speach.  He read a book to the kids.  The clown in office has enough things on his plate.  He needs to figure out how to get the unemployment down and come up with an exit stragety from his quagmire in Afganistan before he starts giving pep talks to kids at school...

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:35 PM

What will your kids be doing on Tuesday if they aren't going to school? 

Taking them to the library for an hour...where they will actually learn something.

posted by siouxcityranch on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:39 PM

honorerdieu  Keeping the kids home to avoid one hour of speech sounds like censorship to me. 

actually its called 'good parenting' but i guess you would have to be one to understand that.

posted by witbee on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:40 PM

If they want to interrupt my SCIENCE classes to air the Presidents speech, I will be quite unhappy. You see, my curriculum is laid out weeks in advance. My class time is supposed to be protected from casual interruption. Let the kids watch it when I do, later that nifght on TV.

Are we going to stop class every time a President speaks? Sorry, what he says just isn't that important.

Sad.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:41 PM

You better verify the library will be open during that hour.

only in Btown ... I'm gonna play some spoons.

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:44 PM

If the library is closed, then I will take them to a park and read them "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine...

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:44 PM

 

What are you guys afraid of ?

Pathetic knee slappers .

--virgil

posted by honorerdieu on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:46 PM

"actually its called 'good parenting' but i guess you would have to be one to understand that."

I dunno.  Just because I disagree with idea of keeping our kids home doesn't mean I'm a bad parent.  Who are you to judge, even though you know virtually nothing about me? 

posted by vanityfair on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:48 PM

I can just hear it now ... "Mommy, I just learned that our President says ................"  How come ..........................?"

If that's what the liberal types want, then fine. Usurp the role of the parent and the community and church that the parent might choose. Make our children question us, right? Shape their minds as you see fit to accommodate your agenda. Disgusting.

I wrote a scathing critique of Plato's Republic in college. My hardcore left-wing professor could only offer me a B+ because he said, and actually WROTE on my paper, that I was "too hard on Plato." I challenged the grade but was told by the chair that it was up to his interpretation. The professor himself, who often invited students to his office for wine and cheese, told me that although my submission was perfect in every way, my characterization of Plato was something he couldn't get past. 

Saw the writing on the wall 18 years ago. Get 'um while they're young.

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:49 PM

I think most school districts know what a joke Obama and his administration have become and will quietly decline showing his propaganda piece...

posted by Shwaine on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:53 PM

There's definately a paranoia running rampant. While there may be some valid concerns behind it, like most paranoias, the reality is getting blown out of proportion in the face of the fear. Really, if your beliefs are sound and you make a habit of talking to the child, what they are told during the day at school shouldn't much matter in how they turn out. I'm currently watching the National Geographic show on Amish rumspringa and I am struck by how the parents let their teenagers run crazy but are there for them when the child needs support. It seems like they have faith that the wildness of society is no match for the community, love and support they offer at home.

Make your home a solid foundation of love, faith and support and the child will be fine, even if they hear the President give a speech at school. Fear and paranoia of the "outside" is not a solid foundation. That is more like the house built on sand that the story in the Bible warns about. What sort of beliefs and faith do you have if it cannot stand in the face of outside influence?

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:54 PM

 

I think it must be the air quality ...

--virgil

posted by honorerdieu on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:55 PM

What Shwaine said. 

 

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:56 PM

What are you guys afraid of ?

Why do you care if my kid is there or not??

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:59 PM

 

 My opinion of where your kid should be has nothing to do with the answer to my question : what are  you guys afraid of ?

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 09:59 PM

 What sort of beliefs and faith do you have if it cannot stand in the face of outside influence?

Good point.  I guess that means the majority of Germans in 1936 didn't have very good beliefs and faith...

posted by Shwaine on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I can just hear it now ... "Mommy, I just learned that our President says ................"  How come ..........................?"

And where is the problem with this? If your beliefs cannot stand up to the simple question of a child, what sort of beliefs do you have? How hard is it to sit the child down, talk with him or her about what they heard at school and come up with a rebuttal explaining why you disagree with what the school said on a level that the child can understand? Why isn't having such a dialog with your child part of the daily routine, such as talking about it over dinner or after school?

posted by Patrick319 on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Paranoia plagues the blissfully ignorant. What if Obama'a idea's are offensive to you or me? Grow a skin people!

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Does Obama have a teaching credential recognized in the State of California??

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM

 

Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago  for a number of years.

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM

And where is the problem with this? If your beliefs cannot stand up to the simple question of a child, what sort of beliefs do you have? How hard is it to sit the child down, talk with him or her about what they heard at school and come up with a rebuttal explaining why you disagree with what the school said on a level that the child can understand? Why isn't having such a dialog with your child part of the daily routine, such as talking about it over dinner or after school?

I do it every day..  But the public option single payer school system should be teaching children, not telling them what to believe...You know, teaching them reading, writing and arithmatic, not that Susie has two mommies and that bananas are great practice props for condoms..  Or that the "science" of man made global warming is settled.  How about we improve education in the basics to a level above Albania before we start teaching them politics??

posted by siouxcityranch on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM

honorerdieu I dunno.  Just because I disagree with idea of keeping our kids home doesn't mean I'm a bad parent.  Who are you to judge, even though you know virtually nothing about me? 

back at cha baby..insinuating a good parent is censoring their kids because they dont want their kids to listen to some bs from a man they *ALL* dislike and forcing them to listen anyway is not right either..my kids think obamas a joke just like most of the rest of the world..where do you people have the right to force them to listen to his crap?? Its not any different than any other negative influences in their lives..would you force your kid and your neighbors kid to sit and listen to Obamas old uncle rev wright??? or any other radical influence you didnt agree with??

I read one of you saying its paranoia..that is one of the most ignorant comments on here...dislike dont respect and have no use for would be a better discription

posted by ronmexico on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:13 PM

If your beliefs cannot stand up to the simple question of a child, what sort of beliefs do you have?

I'm not worried about my kids.  I'm worried about the kids whose parents don't give a rats behind, and leave the learning of faith and beliefs to the failing single payer public option school system.. Like these kids....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

posted by honorerdieu on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Oh puh-leeze, ronmexico.  You're gonna resorts to credentials now?  

Paranoia that breeds ignorance.  It seems like the parents are gonna keep their kids home, stuff cotton balls in their ears, and lock them in the basement until the speech is over.  Then sometime next week, the kids won't form an argument of their own based on their FREE thinking and opinion because they kept in the basement by their parents who got their ego and beliefs in the way.  They won't have a clue about Obama's health reform and why they think it's bad for the nation.  Instead of forming constructive criticism and argument opposing the health reform, they'll just shrug and keep quiet as a mouse.

All because they were locked in a basement on September 9th. 

 

 

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