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Why doesn't Channel 23 read the newspaper?
If you watched any of Channel 23, KERO-TV, over the weekend you saw how it promoted its interview with Margaret Kern Brothers, the only surviving daughter of convicted family murderer Vincent Brothers.
The interview with reporter Crystal Figueroa and schedulted to air tonight (Monday, July 9) says this is the first in-depth interview Brothers has given since her father was convicted of killing his wife, mother-in-law, and three children. I'm guessing this means this is Channel 23's first in-depth interview because The Californian had one with her after the guilty verdict, and another one with her after the penalty phase. Plus we talked to Margaret's mom and we reported on Margaret's testimony. Maybe Channel 23 didn't notice all that in our newspaper and web page. So I'm providing the links in blue on this forum. The news media fancies itself on self promotion. We'd just like it to be in the ballpark of the truth. Posted by Steve E. Swenson 36 comments from 18 users
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posted by
Bakersfieldbubble
on Jul 9, 2007 at 10:16 AM
23 is a total joke. They are the worst news station in town by a long ways My weak blog gets more web traffic than their website. That is sad!
posted by
sagefever
on Jul 9, 2007 at 02:41 PM
posted by
tja2fordsters
on Jul 9, 2007 at 03:28 PM
Being an ex-TV sales rep I kept a very close eye on the local competition, especially news competition (I worked for KGET TV-17)... and without sounding too harsh, their news is a joke and barely pulls any points what-so-ever. Meaning they would barely, if at all, show up in the ratings book. I agree that their self promotion is bad, but every media outlet tries to make the best out of what they've got so you can't blame them. The only way to truly show you don't like it, is to simply not watch it. eventually they'll give up and show Seinfeld reruns instead of news. That would be awesome! posted by
novelboy
on Jul 9, 2007 at 03:34 PM
You're right Steve. Our article is inaccurate. I'm going to go fix the error. It is however the first in-depth interview for television, which I think is in the ballpark of truth. What media or blogger isn't guilty of self promotion? Nick Belardes, ABC 23 posted by
randomfactor
on Jul 9, 2007 at 03:47 PM
posted by
Btown007
on Jul 9, 2007 at 03:56 PM
posted by
novelboy
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:02 PM
I would never have known about this blog if it weren't emailed to me. I love how information flows. That's a good thing... posted by
newsgal
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:03 PM
I just want to let you guys know that I am actually a big fan of your paper and have subscribed since moving here in 1989. For the life of me, I can never figure out why you guys get bashed like you do because I think you run a top-notch operation. As for the Margaret Kern Brothers piece, we may have been promoting the story too literally when we said this would be the first time the public would "hear" from her. I knew you guys had interviewed her before, but to my knowledge, this is her first television interview. Perhaps I'm mistaken on that front, too. As for your respondents on this blog, thanks for the input. Nothing fuels the competitive juices more than to be told one's work is sub-par. Jackie Parks, ABC 23 posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:03 PM
posted by
OldBlue56
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:10 PM
posted by
JamesGeluso
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:17 PM
Pete: If by "source of news" you mean "someone who reads what other people have done and then tells you about it with jokes," then Comedy Central is the best source of news on the planet.
posted by
Rose01
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:35 PM
I quit watching this channel for news when the current weatherguy started ... I can't stand to hear him bellow...."Hellllooooo Bakersfield..!). Really.... I just can't take him. I always liked Jackie Parks, however.
posted by
woofwoof
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:36 PM
My sis-in-law works at 23. I just recently did a voiceover for a commerical for her. And I'm with Jackie (*HI*) on this one.....it's her 1st TELEVISED interview. Remember some people wanna read their news, and some people want to "see" their news. posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:37 PM
They did a study of actual news content on The Daily Show and Colbert Report and found they contained the same percentage of "actual news content" as the network news shows. Yeah, I'd much rather see it with jokes and less violence. I actually get my news from a variety of sources, including overseas. The less corporate the better. They have nothing at stake, like defense contracts, etc. posted by
randomfactor
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:38 PM
posted by
woofwoof
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:39 PM
posted by
Bakersfieldbubble
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:40 PM
What media or blogger isn't guilty of self promotion? Check the web stats for May 2007. I kicked you behind. Tell Craig J I said hi. LOL.
posted by
Bakersfieldbubble
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:41 PM
Agree. Get rid of that HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO BAKERSFIELDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD guy That would move the ratings up by 50%!
posted by
montfred
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:48 PM
posted by
JamesGeluso
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:59 PM
The Daily Show and Colbert are mostly accurate, but they do absolutely no actual original reporting. They read the papers (Colbert will even show you the papers) and the wires, and then they'll send a correspondent to follow.
Now, for analysis and commentary, they're as good as any other opinion show on TV (and better than most of them). But that's all they do -- analysis and commentary. Which is not to say you won't learn something from them. I'm a professional news junkie and I've seen stuff on the show that I'd missed on the wires. It's handy. And my understanding of the scientific study was that TDS viewers knew more than viewers of news from other sources, but that's not necessarily because they get all their news from TDS. If you don't follow the news and know how many members of Congress there are, you won't get half the jokes, so you have to be well-informed to watch the show in the first place. posted by
antiextremism
on Jul 9, 2007 at 04:59 PM
I think there are a few good television people in town. Most of them are the veterans (like you Jackie). I still miss Marge Styles amazing talent at writing backwards on the weather window, and of course, I really miss Burleigh Smith engaged in an uncontrollable giggle fest after a 4 Martini lunch. I know speaking to thousands live is a daunting task, but some of these people are on a par with George Bush for verbal skills. Anybody that doesn't self promote will be left behind. posted by
randomfactor
on Jul 9, 2007 at 05:03 PM
James, they're not intended to do original reporting (although they *DO* it, mainly on the oddball middle-America stories.) Sadly, though, even the Daily Show viewers didn't do as well as they should have on the survey. In how they set up their jokes, they occasionally do the media's job for them, putting things in context. . Most people think The Daily Show is a satire on politics. It ain't. It's a satire on the American media. That's why it's about 32 times better than the Faux News copy. TDS posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 9, 2007 at 05:05 PM
Being a news junkie, I'm sure you're familiar with sites like The Raw Story and dailykos. I can't count the number of times I've seen both sites scoop all the major networks. Although dailykos is a blog site, there are a lot of people posting and not many users there put up with bogus stories. Raw get's stories from a very wide variety of sources, but it also does do quite a bit of original stories as well. posted by
sagefever
on Jul 9, 2007 at 05:07 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Jul 9, 2007 at 05:08 PM
Pete, it's starting to drive the national news, too. The US Attorney scandal grew originally out of volunteer reporting over at http://www.talkingpointsmem.... (Another good place for early heads-up on news stories, if you ignore the "tectonic plates shifting, more soon" announcments. :) . And coming back to James' comment, that wasn't original reporting so much as tying together overlooked local reports to produce a national picture. posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Jul 9, 2007 at 06:38 PM
posted by
JamesGeluso
on Jul 9, 2007 at 10:45 PM
Random: That sort of tying stuff together that TPM did is the same thing that Charlie Savage of the Boston Globe did to win a Pulitzer. I suspect there will be quite a bit of handwringing over whether TPM is eligible for the Pulitzer next year. posted by
puremaha
on Jul 9, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I agree with both sides to this blog... one the Californian did a awesome job covering the Brothers case... u guys had everything covered... it was great... and KERO did a good job getting this interview.... it was the first time u actually hear Marget and her mom... get crazy at Vincent.. i mean I WOULD KICK HIM IN THE FACE... i think i heard from his daughter crazy.... the reason why i think it was a good self promotion was that it was true that they are the first to get her on video... like one comment before said, some like reading well others like listen... good job... and for the crack about KERO being the worst station... come on, Ive watch news in this town a long time... one every station has declined... but i really think that 29 has just gone the worst... i hate watching dumb stories about.... the dam breaking... we all know that the dam isn't gonna break.... or about someones dog isn't letting the mailman deliver mail... those are just a waste of time... and also sticking with 29... it looks dumb when i hear in a story... WE ASK THEM THIS AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID!....come on cant u think of something better to write.. i dunno thats just me...anyways its nice to see Jackie responding in here... sometime u don't get a response from both sides...kudos...
posted by
steveeswenson
on Jul 10, 2007 at 10:23 AM
So, I want to thank Nick for making the correction. And I want to tell Jackie I have loved you since you first came to town. You are truly one of the classiest news women we have in this town. Thanks for reading. Now, I'm off to the ballpark. posted by
novelboy
on Jul 10, 2007 at 11:49 AM
posted by
tja2fordsters
on Jul 10, 2007 at 04:07 PM
Love Jackie Too! Kat Anderson was axed. (Can you blame them? She had a knack of making the morning news cast very awkward and uncomfortable) Kiyoshi is Awesome and I love that they put Katie on with him, they make a great team. posted by
pamg
on Jul 10, 2007 at 04:46 PM
Katie's pretty good, but she talks to danged fast!! Slow down Katie and maybe you won't stumble as much. As for Kat Anderson, good riddance! I don't think that woman could have pronounced her own name correctly.
posted by
sagefever
on Jul 10, 2007 at 06:05 PM
posted by
CurtDalton
on Jul 22, 2007 at 06:06 PM
I have been lurking n the sidelines on this one until now.
I too am a news-junkie. National, international state and local, I just can't get enough. The ACCURATE reporting of the news is essential if the public is to understand how badly the government is screwing the populous every chance it gets.
Whenever the providers of the news skew the news to their particular political bent, everyone suffers. Liberal newscasts portray Conservatives as demons and the conservative newscasters demonetize the liberals at the expense of the truth. Having said that, every single news provider falls on it's face when it comes to truly balanced journalism. Unfortunately, it's necessary for me to spend a couple hours on the Internet each day to get a truly balanced view of the news.
In the local market, KGET is the best at smooth transitions, "pretty" people, generating donations for their "charity of the month" and telling you how great they are. News reporting is sometimes good, some times bad but never excellent. --Mostly fluff with occasional substance. KBAK is the best television news provider usually getting the story straight the first time. UNLESS the issue is illegal immigration or hispanic related issues. (yes, it shows!) Then Jose Gaspar leaves objectivity behind and his credibility goes into the toilet. as he bends over backward (and forward) to show his solidarity with the illegal aliens. -- Not so much fluff and a whole lot more substance. KERO is a (very) distant third in a market of three. It is painfully obvious KERO devotes almost nothing to their news budget. Here's a hint KERO: If you actually want to be good in the news market, you are going to have to spend some of your profit and invest in good equipment, good talent and a decent set. I equate KERO's coverage of the news to their handling of the weather. The obnoxious ranting of a weather guy while unique equates to changed channels which in turn equates to lost revenue. Like the guy in the chicken suit at a Condors game, your weather guy simply is not credible. Get a clue management and fund the News Department properly and your newscasts will no longer be the subject of bad jokes. Your personnel have been working with sub-standard equipment for years and it shows in the caliber of your on-air talent and the overall quality of the news.---- No glitter, No substance. Perhaps Seinfield re-runs are not such a bad idea after all. posted by
woofwoof
on Jul 22, 2007 at 06:53 PM
posted by
CurtDalton
on Jul 23, 2007 at 05:20 AM
Can anyone in "the business" give us an update on Rusty Shoop?? WoofWoof isn't the only one missing him!
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