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Should California ban the death penalty too?
Monday, the governor of New Jersey is expected to sign a bill banning the death penalty. According to The New York Times, "once he signs the bill, New Jersey will become the first state in the modern era of capital punishment to repeal the death penalty."
In California, in 1972, the state supreme court declared the death penalty "cruel and unusual punishment." But in 1977, the state Legislature re-enacted the death penalty as a form of punishment long as the murder met "special circumstances" (for example, more than one victim or murder for financial gain). Read more about the history of the death penalty in California. Now, New Jersey only has 8 men on death row. Not a huge problem for that state to face. California, on the other hand, has 652 men and 15 women on death row. What do you think? Would California ever ban the death penalty? Should it? 31 comments from 14 users
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posted by
samheath
on Dec 14, 2007 at 01:35 PM
Since it is a bad joke here now, it makes more sense to me to simply save some money by skipping all the appeals fattening lawyers further.
posted by
witterpitters
on Dec 14, 2007 at 01:48 PM
posted by
robbwillis
on Dec 14, 2007 at 01:52 PM
I'm with you Sam. If we could off the obvious heinous killers at sunrise following the trial, I'd still be for it. It's also absurd to snuff-out any low-life while Manson still breathes. posted by
timec
on Dec 14, 2007 at 02:54 PM
California should ban the death penalty. It is cruel and unusual punishment. We have innocent people on death row. No jury has the right to sentence anyone to death. Let God be the judge. One more thing..when you are sentenced to the death penalty in Ca it is the same as life without. posted by
AudreyB
on Dec 14, 2007 at 03:06 PM
posted by
OldBlue56
on Dec 14, 2007 at 03:09 PM
posted by
timec
on Dec 14, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Oldblue, You are the ignorant one. Juries recommend and the judge 99.9% of the time follow the juries recommendation so in my opinion they sentence. posted by
AudreyB
on Dec 14, 2007 at 03:17 PM
Old Blue is right. The state doesn't want the execution of a convicted murderer to be on the hands of 12 innocent citizens, so the state assumes the duty to make the final decision. posted by
OldBlue56
on Dec 14, 2007 at 03:49 PM
Timec, even when you are wrong you try to justify it someway. When I am wrong, I admit it. Why can't you? posted by
sagefever
on Dec 14, 2007 at 04:04 PM
"New Jersey reinstated the death penalty in 1982, six years after the U.S. Supreme Court allowed states to resume executions, but nobody has been executed in the Garden State since 1963. New Jersey has been barred from executing anyone under a 2004 court ruling that declared invalid the state's lethal injection procedures. A special state commission found in January that the death penalty was a more expensive sentence than life in prison, hasn't deterred murder, and could kill innocent people. The measure would spare eight men on the state's death row " from this link: posted by
adampayne
on Dec 14, 2007 at 04:38 PM
posted by
sfinboston52
on Dec 15, 2007 at 09:12 AM
there is no proof, no studies showing that the death penalty lowers crimes or murder. It is time for the US and each state to grow up and become civilized like other democracies. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Dec 15, 2007 at 09:18 AM
yeah lets get civilized like Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Hockmydinnerjacket, and all the other "enlightened" dictaters you lionize. for a guy that travels a lot you sure have blinders on
posted by
sfinboston52
on Dec 15, 2007 at 09:30 AM
posted by
sfinboston52
on Dec 15, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Interesting the countries the US is in bed w/ regarding the death penatly. They are not countries that are the known for human rights leadership. http://www.infoplease.com/i... The Death Penalty WorldwideAccording to Amnesty International, 133 countries have abolished the death penalty. During 2006 25 countries, 91% in China, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan, and the United States alone, executed 1,591 people compared to 2,148 in 2005. More than 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. More than 20,000 prisoners are on death row across the world. See also U.S. Figures. posted by
TomW
on Dec 15, 2007 at 10:56 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 15, 2007 at 10:57 AM
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Dec 15, 2007 at 02:35 PM
posted by
johnburnssucks
on Dec 15, 2007 at 05:24 PM
Timec, even when you are wrong you try to justify it someway. When I am wrong, I admit it. Why can't you? She's pathologically insecure. Right is wrong and wrong is right, because of "oppression." She's probably still angry about Tookie Williams getting his a while back. posted by
johnburnssucks
on Dec 15, 2007 at 05:39 PM
According to Amnesty International, 133 countries have abolished the death penalty. Amnesty International claims that Australia has more “human rights” violations than North Korea. They’re on drugs. They were terribly disappointed when the Soviet empire crumbled, because there were no more gulags to throw a fit over. A.I. supporters give thanks every day that suffering continues to exist in the world, because without it, they’d all have to get real jobs. posted by
sagefever
on Dec 15, 2007 at 05:48 PM
posted by
OldBlue56
on Dec 15, 2007 at 06:20 PM
posted by
ChicoEsquela
on Dec 15, 2007 at 06:29 PM
but Tookie be doin' chilrens books, teaching inmate redemption Tookie started Crips and you could say was a "Father of Gangs in America" Choo gots a problem wif dat? hijo de tu oy vey.............. posted by
cbpersel
on Dec 16, 2007 at 04:46 AM
The death penalty should be banned immediately. Why? 1. It is cruel and unusual punishment. 2. It is not fairly distributed. The poor and non-white population are disproportionately represented on death row. 3. There is no connection between the death penalty and lower murder rates. 4. It is more expensive to execute someone than giving them a life sentence. 5. Civilized nations do not execute their citizens. The death penalty is banned in the EU and their murder rate is many times lower than the US. Canada's murder rate is 10x lower than the US and it has no death penalty.
posted by
timec
on Dec 17, 2007 at 08:16 AM
OLD BLUE If I am wrong I will be the first to admit it. You just informed me of something that I already had complete knowledge of. I could careless about Tookie Williams. He was a notorious gang member.He was executed.....it was wrong ...but oh well. VB on the other hand is a victim in my opinion. THANK YOU CBPERSEL!posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 17, 2007 at 08:37 AM
posted by
timec
on Dec 17, 2007 at 08:38 AM
John No comment! posted by
sagefever
on Dec 17, 2007 at 08:52 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 17, 2007 at 08:57 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 17, 2007 at 10:38 AM
posted by
sfinboston52
on Dec 17, 2007 at 11:18 AM
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