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talkofthetown - > Talk of the Town -> What happened to the big storms?
What happened to the big storms?
At the end of last week it seemed like every public agency was battening down and preparing for a deluge of rain. There were all kinds of warnings from the weather folks, sandbag stations and more.

Then it drizzled a couple times over the weekend.

Now I'm not saying I want us to have flooding and damage to homes. But I kinda feel hoodwinked. I really thought we were gonna get something more.

Did anyone out there believe the weather forecasts? Am I the only sucker?

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posted by talkofthetown on Monday, January 7, 2008 at 02:25 PM
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posted by randomfactor on Jan 7, 2008 at 02:27 PM
I believed, prepared, and am glad I didn't need to.  The wind did more damage than the rain would have.
posted by sagefever on Jan 7, 2008 at 02:32 PM
Same here RF~ the storm,winds not with standing, hit every where but here it appeared,other areas of California got hit pretty hard.
posted by NancyII on Jan 7, 2008 at 02:47 PM

As is usually the case, the storms veer away from us at about Fresno and we get the tail end sweep.  It never seems to fail.    I was really looking forward to sheets of driving rain and gutters running with rivers of water.....glad I didn't rush down and get sandbags cause I'd have just been able to use them for cement.

We rarely get the storms predicted but I'm not sure thats the weathermen's fault.  Sounds lilke the veering off isn't all that predictable.

On Saturday night the wind came up realy strong and the rain did get heavy.  It was beating against my window and I was in heaven. 

posted by JeffHarbin on Jan 7, 2008 at 03:14 PM

Hey Nancy...if that kind of weather is Heaven for you, come on back to Tampa anytime between March and November.  It's heavenly here for several hours almost every day (which is weird, because usually it's hotter than, well, that other place!)

We'll even throw in some lightning, for effect.

posted by NancyII on Jan 7, 2008 at 03:23 PM

Jeff..I spent some time in TN and that was one of the big attractions for me.  I lived on the lake and used to stand on the balcony of my apartement and watch the storms move in across the water.  When the lightning and the thunder hit at the same time I would hustle back inside.   I LOVED it.

I envy you the storms but not the humidity.

 

spam code knizy.  it would send me into a knizy.  lol.

posted by RosemarysAbortionist on Jan 7, 2008 at 03:35 PM
Formula for converting a Weather service storm forecast into a realistic one:  Chance of rain = 100 - (forecast percent).  If they forecast 70%, bet on 30. Forecast 90%, bet on 10.  Forecast 20%, bet on 80. The rule here is: the bigger the promise, the smaller the result.
posted by anglo1 on Jan 7, 2008 at 05:28 PM
I sometimes feel that their job is so boring that they take advantage of any change in the weather to become part of the entertainment sector rather than giving accurate forecasts which may be less exciting.  On the central coast 10" of rain was predicted, not even close. I think it was about 25-30% of that,  it happens way  to often.
posted by RosemarysAbortionist on Jan 7, 2008 at 05:37 PM
Weather sensationalism? Rain For Ratings? Distinct possibility.
posted by NancyII on Jan 7, 2008 at 05:53 PM

My opinion is that our weather is so boring that ANY chance of rain or a storm causes a major news event.

One in the distant past, at the Knotty Pine in the afternoon, it started raining.  I went to the door and announced it and everyone in the place went outside to watch.  I told them that only in Bakersfield could you empty a bar by crying "RAIN!"

Forget about hollering fire.

posted by sagefever on Jan 7, 2008 at 06:50 PM
California does tend to get excited about weather.
posted by gsisola on Jan 7, 2008 at 07:18 PM
I don't like rain... I don't like snow.... I don't like temps below 35..... that is why I love it here.... that is why I live here.... I will take 100 degrees anytime over ice, snow or rain... I love the weather and this city... I Love Bakersfield !!!!
posted by NancyII on Jan 7, 2008 at 07:22 PM

Gsisola, I love Bakersfield too and would rather have our mostly moderate weather than the humidity of the south.   However, I DO love rain and snow as long as I don't have to be out in it.

I've gotta say though...SAn Diego has great weather..and great expenses for living.  (As in BIG)

posted by drilnliftcrude on Jan 7, 2008 at 08:46 PM
These "experts" have such a hard time predicting next weekend's weather, and we're supposed to trust their prediction's on global warming?
posted by msemilyh on Jan 7, 2008 at 09:43 PM

nancy's bar experience reminds me.   any time i am at work and it starts raining, well, we're pretty much done for the day.  someone realizes its raining/sprinkling. i hear "hey, its raining!"  then half the faces are at the windows, heads out the doors.   so i tell those who are still in their seats (bless those good children)  oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh lets all go to the window and look; because we've never seen rain before!

never a dull moment with my job! 

posted by TomW on Jan 7, 2008 at 09:58 PM
We got hit pretty hard here.  About 100,000 people lost power, Comcast either went out or got spotty for everyone.  There wasn't any real flooding since every street here slopes to the water, but we did have a couple of houses yellow tagged (including Jerry Brown's next door neighbor).  Other than that, a couple of rooftops made a break for it and a few trashcans took to the skies, but it wasn't terrifying.
posted by allRED on Jan 8, 2008 at 01:36 AM

Nancy I couldnt agree more      I love the rain and snow    but only during the time it's supposed rain and snow  (not all year)

I told my wife     if we get one 10th of this       it will be a great weekend     I turned on the weather satellite hit the loop button

and watched it rain all over California      &nb sp;   guess what       &nb sp;  not in 4 days of wishing     like you   I should have went and got me

 some of those free sand bags     re during my back yard this spring     and free sand would have been nice.

There was a post here the other day     about the highest point in the city limits    Fairfax  Rd    I live six houses from there

If the Dam ever breaks    your all welcome to sit it out in my front yard     just bring your own coffee or soft drinks

Ron.

posted by adampayne on Jan 8, 2008 at 07:57 AM
For the curious check the gallery of storm photos link on the Sac Bee article.

Even the rain doesn't want to visit Bakersfield.
posted by ChicoEsquela on Jan 8, 2008 at 08:00 AM

Note that the "meteorologists" on every station are now talking about

"The Rain Shadow"

This gives them cover as they talk about .25 to 1 inch and we hardly get more than a tenth

Luckily at least, the rain drops North of BakoBurg where we can use it up here.

posted by Flightmedic14 on Jan 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM

It's called the rain shadow effect coupled with the high winds that blew across the mountains.

There was a high pressure system that was moving out of the area and was over the four corners region while the low pressure systems came in from the north. Now basic weather 101 here, winds blow in a clockwise motion around around the high and in a counter-clock wise motion around the low(For the northern hemisphere only, Southern hemi is opposite). Also, like any substance, it runs from high to low or top to bottom. The winds blew "down" from the high pressure system towards the low, which was still way off the coast. Therefore, the winds kept the rain from getting in here because it dried out the air, like a big old air evaporator.

As for the rain shadow, the first storm met up with a tropical stream of moisture coming in from the southwest, IE LA and south area. Now when the rain hit the coastal range it rains like hell there, but is not able to get up and get over the mtn range to rain on us. IE. the rain shadow effect. Look at eastern Oregon, the mtns block the rain from getting there so it's like living in a high desert, also just go to Mojave. You can see the rain shadow perfectly. At 58 & Cameron, on the west side, hey what do you know green, or brown, vegetation, east and desert and scrubs and bushes.

I could go on further, but this is boring even me! LOL!! Yes, if I could do it all over again, I would've been a meteorologist.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Jan 8, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Yep

The good ol' rain shadow

Give perfect cover for the weathermen in town who like to tout big rain nos. to get an audience but they never materialize

Instead of explaining the minuscule amounts of actual rain we get, why don't they just give realistic forecasts

('cause no rain expected isn't nearly as "sexy" as up to one inch expected!)

posted by RosemarysAbortionist on Jan 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM
The bigger the forecast storm, means the bigger the low pressure center, which means a bigger suction to suck bigger high winds from the south, blowing the rain away, leading to the biggest possible rip-off for Bakersfield. That's why it works so well to take the forecast and simply invert it.
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