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talkofthetown - > Talk of the Town -> High school girls make pact to get pregnant
High school girls make pact to get pregnant

This story has been all over cable TV the last day or two. It hasn't approached Tim Russert fever, but it's everywhere.

17 girls at Gloucester High School are pregnant and many of them made a pact to get knocked up and raise their kids together.

Why weren't pacts like this made when I was in high school? Bummer.

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Topics: high school girls, Pregnant, pact
posted by talkofthetown on Friday, June 20, 2008 at 08:21 AM
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posted by saberhagen on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:45 AM

 

How many of the pregnant high school girls were serviced by the same homeless, 24-year-old stud cited in the Time Magazine/CNN story as one of the fathers?

According to the Time/CNN account, none of the girls is older than 16.

Looks like the homeless guy might soon have a new place to live, in prison.

But concerning the girls and their babies, what will happen next with them?

 

posted by Infowar on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:47 AM

 So this is more important than the impending war in Iran?


posted by TomW on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:49 AM

Yes, infowar, it is.


posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:53 AM

And now we'll have 17 more babies and moms on public assistance.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:53 AM

Nothing more than failure in parenting..

posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55 AM

Info...contrary to your apparent belief, there ARE things going on in the world besides war.

Is war really the only thing you think is worth talking about?

posted by tchudilowsky on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:13 AM

 These ding a lings will get exactly what they are asking for!

Starting out as a rather young mom myself, I know for a fact it is HARD!  They will regret this decision :-(

posted by michele1075 on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:24 AM

FSG-maybe not all are contributed to failure in parenting.

posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:27 AM

I'm surprised 17 teenaged girls agreed on ANY single plan.

Wonder what the boys involved have to say.

posted by Lingtaowoo on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:27 AM

Another classic case of parents NOT teaching their children how to keep their legs closed....who just had a baby girl???? How old was she when she conceived???


posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:31 AM

Parenting had nothing to do with the girls getting pregnant?  hehe...this from the article.

"But by May, after nurse practitioner Kim Daly had administered some 150 pregnancy tests at Gloucester High's student clinic, she and the clinic's medical director, Dr. Brian Orr, a local pediatrician, began to advocate prescribing contraceptives regardless of parental consent, a practice at about 15 public high schools in Massachusetts. Currently Gloucester teens must travel about 20 miles (30 km) to reach the nearest women's health clinic; younger girls have to get a ride or take the train and walk. But the notion of a school handing out birth control pills has met with hostility. Says Mayor Carolyn Kirk: "Dr. Orr and Ms. Daly have no right to decide this for our children." The pair resigned in protest on May 30".

 

posted by tchudilowsky on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:33 AM

 My mom taught me right from wrong and we talked about "things" I STILL messed up.

Parents are a big part but ultimately it is the 17 year olds fault.

17! Come on! Old enough to take the rap themselves!

I am a firm believer that parents can ALWAYS do better.

But it is the kids responsibility to LISTEN and choose to DO the right things!

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:38 AM

Actually, Nancy, it wasn't all 17 who agreed to have babies.. some were just your normal statistical teen pregnancies.

 

michele - If parents would actually be.. parents, it wouldn't fall down to the schools to be giving sex ed (among many other things).  The very fact that many of these girls WANTED to get pregnant shows a failure in the household.

posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:39 AM

You're right Lana, I agree that kids are aware of the risk today.  There's too much info out there for them not to be.  My beef is with the mayor not allowing birth control to the kids.  If they area already either thinking about or are sexually active they will continue it no matter what the parents say or what they know.  The kids need to be protected.

In the case of the girls who planned the pregnancies of course they wouldn't use the pills anyway but for the rest, they should be made available.

posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 09:42 AM

FSG..I know it wasn't all who planned it en masse..but my version about them all agreeing on something is funnier...  :-)

(If we can find a little humor in this.)

posted by baby on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:12 AM

This story is KOOKY!  Does anyone know their reason behind the pact?  Like Nancy said, a large group of girls deciding where to eat lunch is havoc.  Where can we see their long term plan?  :)

posted by Lingtaowoo on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Remember back about a month ago when it was announced that 1 out of every 4 teen girls has some sort of STD's---2 out of every 4 black teen has some sort of STD...wonder how the babies are going to come out of this healthy and not infected...kids today thinks this is some sort of game...AND this is the future of America...no wonder the world is laughing at us...look at the fine example WE are setting...


posted by johnburnssucks on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Nancy, I can find a little humor in this; I find the whole thing to be hilarious.

"But, but, that sort of thing doesn't happen in Gloucester..."

posted by Lingtaowoo on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM

And since children ARE having children...who winds up raising these kids the majority of the time...the PUBLIC...it's called WELFARE.....it's all a game


posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 AM

JBS..gotta love it..that sort of theing only happens in Backwardsville.  (so say some idiots.)

posted by dgrealish on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:00 AM

It was reported on the news last night that the majority of the "baby daddies" weren't in high school.  The oldest being twenty-four years old.  Now, if these girls had a pact to get pregnant and set out to do so with guys who were eighteen or older, what does that say about their ability to concent?  How many of their parents are going to cry foul and press charges? 

posted by allRED on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:04 AM

Nancy     theing ?

posted by NancyII on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM

HA ron..I fixed it as soon as I saw it.

posted by rxgirl1984 on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM

These girls are idiots, enough said and the guys that impregnated them. Also, the parents are not totally to blame, these children, because that's what they are, did have functioning brains and set out to do this.  My sister got pregnant at a really young age and I watched as my Mom took care of my nephew for the past 18 years of his life.  He has had it rough; drugs, alcohol, being diagnosed as bi-polar and his Dad left the picture almost the day he was born.  He just graduated from highschool (hallelujah!!) and he's thinking of big goals for himself finally, but at times, I wondered about his future.  Kids having kids is so wrong.  Most of the time either the public or Grandparents end up being the parents of these babies and they usually end up having problems, medical ones too because of such young mothers.  I have seen this first hand and luckily it made me think and I'm 23, without a child to this day.  I have dreams and goals and aspirations of doing something with my life.  These girls apparently didn't have any of those, what a shame...

posted by allRED on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM

JBS   from all you have said lately     you could have serviced them all in one night

posted by lanabuford on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:22 AM
  Nancy: Was you thinking about me when you wrote that post? I didn't post anything here...LOL Sweet. But I do agree with what you said. and at 17yrs old they knew what they were doing and now these girls are going to be mommys. I'm sure they'll wish they had thought about it a little harder......Boneheads!
posted by johnburnssucks on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM

JBS   from all you have said lately     you could have serviced them all in one night

Seventeen of them? Three nights.

 

posted by tchudilowsky on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:43 AM

So rude ron :-(

posted by Shwaine on Jun 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM

The motivation, from what I heard, was all the media that did not really show the reality of teen pregnancy. The two examples I heard cited were the film Juno and the younger Spears pregancy (which was not portrayed as the fiasco it should have been portrayed as in the popular media). Maybe we need more "take care of an egg" or, better yet, "take care of the robotic doll with realistic crying" lessons to come back into the school system. Take away the glamor with a huge dose of reality before the girls end up pregnant.

posted by rxgirl1984 on Jun 20, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Isn't there a show coming up on TV called, "The Baby Borrowers"??  In the commercials, it looked like it would deter kids from wanting to have kids.  It scared me even, haha.

posted by timec on Jun 20, 2008 at 01:26 PM

These girls are lucky they are not living with me.....I would feed the baby but I don't what my daughter would do.......planning a baby in high school........I'm getting mad just thinking about it.........the recycling center will become her best friend.

If I have to raise my daughters rugrat she will do without. Bye bye Abercrombie ...hello Goodwill. 

posted by lanabuford on Jun 20, 2008 at 03:57 PM
  Those girls could have spent the day with my 4 grandkids.......Now that would have changed their minds. OMG just one day with my over active in-to-everything 2yr old grandson would have done the trick! LOL
posted by possummomma on Jun 21, 2008 at 02:18 AM

Blaming teen pregnancy on a movie seems silly.  If that was the case, then there shouldn't have been any teen pregnancies prior to Juno.  There have been countless movies and after-school specials (or "very special episodes" of television shows) where girls get pregnant.  What seems more likely is that these kids think that having a child will give them the family they may not have.  Or, that it will be a way to trap a guy. 

What these girls need to realize is that it's not the baby's job to love you unconditionally- it's your job to do that for the baby.  Babies are hard work.  Your entire life changes in ways you've not even thought of, yet.  You have to give everything of yourself to someone else, without expectations of what you will get in return.  You have to parent 24/7.  You don't get a day off from the worry or work.  You will be defecated on, urinated on, puked on, and smell like either sour formula or breastmilk for the first six months - guaranteed.  You'll walk around with wet spots on your shirt anytime you leave the baby to go out because simply hearing another infant will activate the "let down" reflex.  You'll never, ever, ever have the freedom you once did.  You'll be exhausted.  You'll wonder how any baby can cry/poop/pee/puke so much.  You'll fall asleep in chairs and blow off friends in favor of taking a nap.  And, I guarantee, at some point, you'll wish you'd waited until you had a partner to share the responsibility with.  With teen moms in particular, you can guarantee that they will have a fight with their boyfriend (and, often, his entire family).  Their boyfriends may even take off completely.  The odds are that you won't marry the father and, if you do, the odds are that the marriage will be over in less than five years.  You will find yourself standing in a store calculating the cost per diaper of nappies and find yourself looking longingly at the purchases you used to take for granted. If you finish school and go on to college, it will be ten times harder because your baby doesn't care if you've got a test or midterm the next day. 

Having a child is an amazing, beautiful event in the lives of a committed couple.  And, most of the scenarios above will happen whether you're married or not when you get pregnant.  But, it's ten times easier to deal with the midnight feedings when you have a caring partner and devoted co-parent who will bring the baby to you so you can eek out an extra two minutes of sleep before feeding and changing.  You don't need money to have a baby, but it sure makes it a lot easier and less stressful.  And, perhaps most of all, when you wait until you're with someone else, you'll be able to give your child a family.  Having children isn't something you should go into alone. 

Babies are great!  But, you owe it to that wonderful little human to be ready for them.  You owe it to them to give them the best you have to give and, at fifteen or sixteen, you hardly know who YOU are, let alone what your best you is.  These girls are, to be quite frank, stupid and selfish.  I wish I could've said everything above to them before they made their "pregnancy pact". 

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