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timec - > Racism in America! -> Mr. Jagels... Where are the Mexican and White gang members?
Mr. Jagels... Where are the Mexican and White gang members?

There are many other gang members in Bakersfield. Why are we only targeting black gang members? I am sick of Kern's selective justice.  Get rid of all gangs not just the black ones.

KERN COUNTY IS FULL OF RACIST! THIS COUNTY IS RACIST AGAINST ANYONE THAT IS NOT A GOOD OLE BOY....

BLACK PEOPLE BEWARE OF KERN COUNTY.....

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posted by timec on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 at 09:18 AM
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posted by dinbri on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:30 AM

You know I thought the same thing last night too when I saw the newscast showing the black offenders.  What's the deal?  Gang members aren't just black.  That would be called a STEREOTYPE...

posted by FrankieV2 on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:38 AM

I agree.  They should be going after those damn Khazak gang members.

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41 AM

Blacks are documented ,most mexicans are not, there are no white gangs..documentation leads to arrest and convictions and therefor more money in the budget for next year,, it`s all profit and  keeping the jobs..sorry, more blacks should be born undocumented...and remember there are no white criminals in Kern County.....you have to get a grip on reality 

posted by CatherineBaker on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:48 AM

I was wondering the same thing, Timec.  I wonder if The Californian could ask Jagels that question. 

I hear about a lot of bad gang activity coming out of Delano, with the Norte Serreno, or whatever they're called.  Why no investigation about them?

posted by antiextremism on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:49 AM

What we need is a new lawman in town!

 

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:50 AM

good one Anti...perfect

posted by dinbri on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:50 AM

From Wiki:  "There were at least 30,000 gangs and 800,000 gang members active across the USA in 2007, up from 731,500 in 2002 and 750,000 in 2004. By 1999, Hispanics accounted for 47% of all gang members, Blacks 31%, Whites 13%, and Asians 6%".

 

posted by johnburnssucks on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:51 AM

There's that white guy with the tattoos who hit the guy from behind at that Beerfest thing and killed him. 

Chad Vegas is a criminal. He's in violation of the laws of nature.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:52 AM

maggiepoo

There are documented Mexican gang members. I see them on a daily basis on the streets and on the news. Mexican gangs have taken over  Delano and  MC Farland. There is a parole system full of black, white, and mexican gangs. There are many white gangs and white gang members. White gang members are not targeted because they are white. ...What am I thinking...I must be dreaming thinking  Klan Kounty is going to arrest a white person for gang banging.....Gang banging is similar to a lynch mob and that was ok with whites then and it is okay with them now.

 Silly me.....

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:54 AM

Dinbri...repeat there are no white gang members or criminals in Kern County or even Oildale...

posted by dinbri on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:56 AM

mPOO, you need to read what timec just said....oKKK?

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM

you need to have a sense of humor..I`m standing along side Timec...repeat after me ..there are no white gangs or criminals in Kern County or Oildale, only victims....geez

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Blacks make up about 15% of America. If they do this type of sweep in all major cities...blacks will be like Yugo's ...gone gone gone.

I know that Ed Jagels is a great attorney but he better have the argument of a life time when he steps in front of the man up above.

 

posted by dinbri on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:06 AM

Are there any Nazi Low Riders (white gang) here?  Or skinheads in Kern County?

posted by anglo1 on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM

I don't live in Kern County now but just how many whites gangster have done drive by murders this year?  I ask because I haven't heard of one.  dinbris' stats say a lot blacks are about15% of the population but account for 31% of the gangs, maybe that is one reason why they are targeted, easier pickins.

posted by antiextremism on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM

I think the sarcasm is lost on 'em Maggie.

Not that I don't agree with ya Timec, but racism can be used by more than whites.

Take Compton California. There are about 20% more legal hispanics than blacks, yet no hispanics in top government positions.

 

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Remember this.... Interesting to see how much time these characters received...... and yes they are white....

 

 On Saturday Jan 5 2008 members of the Kern River Valley Sheriff's Station and the Kern County Sheriff's Gang Unit contacted several members the Vagos outlaw motorcycle gang at the Happy Haven Trailer Park on Lake Isabella Blvd. The Sheriff's Office was investigating the possibility that the Vagos were looking at the Kern River Valley to start a club. Following the investigation Michael Bryan Dunn 36, Kevin Earl
Corly 44, Christopher Peterson, 19 of the Lake Isabella area and Clarence Hoffman 52, Shane Nursery 34, and Roy Virgin 51 of Goshen Ca. The subjects were arrested on possession of dangerous weapon, narcotic and gang member charges. They were booked into the Kern County Sheriff's Central Receiving Facility.

During this investigation Dunn and Corley were also charged with assault with a deadly weapon, robbery, kidnapping, dissuading a witness, conspiracy and gang charges those charges stemmed from an investigation that occurred several weeks ago. That investigation is on going with more arrests pending.

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:15 AM

Yes they are here but they are the law abiding ones... sorta fits ..huh !....

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Anti

I agree. Racism comes in all forms. Blacks are also racist but whites have the power.............

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Did they drop the charges against these dudes....it must be nice to be white......I will be back I'm going to go buy a sprayer and some paint.....

posted by antiextremism on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:30 AM

True that. But the demographics are changing daily. The white man will be a minority in this county in only a few more years. Hispanics are having babies at at least a 3 to 2 rate over whites, while blacks are remaining static at about 5% of all live births. The future of this county will have a Latin flavor.

posted by elguapo on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:34 AM

From what I could gather,  Hispanic gangs have a sort of moratorium on drive by shootings and black gangs do not.  In essence the black gangs put themselves in the media more because of their drive by shooting styles that the majority of the time end up killing innocent children and adults instead of the intended target.  So common sense tells me that if I were the DA I would pursue these types of criminals and get them off the street.  I am not saying that other gangs with different ethnicities should not be targeted but black gang members do not really have a street code when it comes to this type of violence.  I just hope we do not start to offer affirmitve action to killers and gang bangers,  that would be sooo liberal California of us. 

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

"The future of this county will have a Latin flavor." sort of like the original California did...funny

posted by randomfactor on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Glad I took Latin in high school, then.  Semper Ubi Sub Ubi.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM

So basically what you are saying is that this going to be Mexico #2.....I can believe that.

el- Drive by, stabbing, walk by...who cares? Murder is murder...arrest all of them not just the black ones.

posted by CatherineBaker on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM

Yeah, but that latin flavor will be Taco Bell.

posted by OldBlue56 on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM

Yes timec, it is VERY NICE to be white....

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Anti

So when I drive by the fields will I see whites picking grapes......or when I get my car washed will I be able to actually talk to the person and tell them they missed a spot.......I can't wait.

Whites like the sun so you guys should switch roles......

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM

I bet it is......

I think at lunch I will empty out my purse and go walk around Macy's ......I love being followed it is such fun. Maybe one day they will actually tackle me($$$$)......

posted by dinbri on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Time to move to Australia?

posted by CatherineBaker on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:59 AM

LOL Timec!  Don't waste your time at Macy's though.  You'd have a better shot of getting tackled at the Gottschalks at the East Hills Mall. 

posted by WESLEYSMOMMY on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:00 AM

timec - Maybe one day they will actually tackle me($$$$)......

Way to reinforce the steroetypes against black people!

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Catherine

Thanks for the tip.....lol

posted by Maggiepoo on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM

random..sharp as a tack!!!!

posted by OldBlue56 on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Oh timec, I was only pulling your chain....

But seriously, I think Mr. Jagels is wasting his time and the taxpayers money. I think the tactic of the BPD driving around, spotting a shot caller standing on the corner, getting a plan together, then going back when it's dark and killing his ass is a lot more effective!

Plus, it makes for better blogging....

posted by antiextremism on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM

I did my time in the fields timec. Twelve hours a day, 6 days a week and Saturday's off because the boss was Seventh Day Adventist. I took home about 124 bucks a week, and my Irish ars, (well, maybe not my ars) got fried by the sun!  My mom reminded me that she did the same thing at 9 years old, while I only did it for a few summers.

I don't care what anyone says, you have to have some special fortitude to work in the fields your whole life.

posted by antiextremism on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Which reminds me of another Blazing Saddles reference....

"Okay, we'll take the ni$$erz and the chinx, but we don't want the Irish!"

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:32 AM

haha

OB you are too much...but ...funny as hell. 

You are not joking about that.... you know that is what they did to that man...Sad..but true. This time they need to get their gun/bullet story straight..Mario was slippin.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM

I can not work in the fields...black attracts heat so I will be burnt to a crisp. I am not made for any type of labor...I am lucky I wasn't born in the slavery days because I would have been a house ni**a and had a bunch of Oreo's....gotta do watch you gotta do....

 

posted by FrankieV2 on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM

timec....damn.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM

What's up Frankie are you new to TBC....

posted by FrankieV2 on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:03 PM

been registered for a while, just started posting though.

posted by bigjpop on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Read, "A Framework for Understanding Poverty"  by Ruby Payne.  Gangs appear in all colors and they all have one thing in common.  They live in culture of poverty.  In the absence of family the gang becomes your family.  Unfortunately the culture of poverty in America suffers from a lack of strong families, especially Strong Fathers.  In fact  having a strong, loving, and nurturing father is probably one of the biggest deterrents to all negative behavior--especially in young men.

In response to the irrational comment that Bakersfield is Racist.  If you look at most of the poverty in Bakersfield its centered in 3 parts of town.  East Bakersfield, Central Bakersfield (cottonwood), and Oildale.  The largest gang activity is also in these neighborhoods.  The Bakers (Hispanic gangs in the east and Southeast), Crypts (Black gang:Cottonwood, Union Ave.), and the Oildale Peckerwoods aka Nazi Low riders( White gang, in Oildale and parts of Central Bako).  The DA targets all of these gangs--it is ridiculously and ignorant to say the DA stereotypes. 

That comment is very common in the culture of poverty.  To be anti-law enforcement.  People who are involved in criminal activity themselves no matter how small usually have an anti-law enforcement attitude.  Unless you have solid evidence in your claim then you should watch what you say--because it makes you look like a fool

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Cool,

 Nice chatting with you....

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM

I am not poor Jpop I am a realist.

I have solid evidence. Kern County will hang you if you are black.....you know it and I know it. I have been in court and witnessed it with my own eyes.  I have had many family members that have experienced Kern Justice. Stevie Wonder can see that Kern County is racist. This justice system here is unfair. I will ask you this why in the hell did the white motorcycle gang walk on all charges? You tell me one black that walked on all charges after it was all over the news. I spoke with a criminal attorney here in Kern County and he told me blacks need to be careful in this court system. Kern county specializes in scaring innocent people into pleading guilty to crimes they did not commit.

Thank you for naming all of the gangs but tell me why the black gangs are the only ones on Kern's hit list?

posted by grandolephil on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:16 PM

I believe that gangbanger wannabe scum should be shot dead on the street by armed, God-fearing citizens of the United States and our entrusted Law Enforcement officers. No compromise.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:39 PM

PRO

FIRST OFF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME. IF I SOUND RACIST TO YOU GOOD...I COULD CARELESS. I AM GLAD IS PISSES YOU OFF WHEN I SAY OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM TARGETS ONE GROUP.......MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME IT IS BETTER TO PISSED OFF THEN PISSED ON. YES THE WHITE GANG MEMBERS DID GET OFF....ALL CHARGES WERE DROPPED. I AM NOT UNHAPPY WITH ANYTHING. I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY AND A VERY GOOD JOB. I HAVE A GREAT HUSBAND AND WE HAVE WORKED FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE. WHEN I WAS TALKING TO ANOTHER BLOGGER I WAS BEING SARCASTIC ABOUT THE GRAPE FIELDS STATEMENT. IF YOU WANT TO WORK IN THE FIELD THEY WILL LET YOU...YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEXICAN TO WORK IN THE FIELDS...YOU JUST HAVE TO DO YOUR PART.  THAT IS FUNNY HOW YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED THAT I DON'T WORK AND I DON'T LIKE THE CARDS LIFE HAS DEALT ME.....ONLY IF YOU KNEW THE HALF.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF BIG BANK TAKES LITTLE BANK...LET'S PLAY.....

KERN COUNTY SUCKS!

posted by NancyII on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43 PM

Oh dear....timec is angry..she's yelling again.

posted by timec on Jun 10, 2008 at 02:11 PM

PRO

Did you see this in your search........

 

A 2005 study by the Justice Department found that while Hispanic, black and white drivers were stopped by the police about as often, Hispanic drivers or their vehicles were searched 11.4 percent of the time and blacks 10.2 percent of the time, compared with 3.5 percent for white drivers. Data collected from state courts by the Justice Department also shows that a higher percentage of black felons than white felons receive prison sentences for nearly all offenses, and also that blacks receive longer maximum sentences for most offenses

 

posted by gube on Jun 10, 2008 at 02:32 PM

I got into a high speed chase with the cops about 22 years ago and I have a story to tell.............. the chase lasted about 10 minuets before I crash and I remember looking up and there was a bako cop at my window with his gun pointing at my head  and he yelled ''GET THE F--K OUT OF THE CAR OR I'LL SHOOT YOU''  well not being to smart I started the car and took off.....Being I had two flat tires I didn't get to far so I stopped and was instantly rammed by a police car, I was dragged out of the car and thrown onto the ground and I could feel several guns on my back as they were telling me to ''MAKE A MOVE MOTHER  F--KER''  ...................You can bet I didn't move.....Anyway here's the good part......The cop that originally told me to get out of the car or he would shoot me was the cop that transported me to jail.......About half way to the jail the cop looked back at me and said ''do you know why I didn't shoot you back there''...no I said......Now here's the good part .....He said that he didn't shoot me because I was white.................. Its good to be white !

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