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Republican Rep. Bob Allen was arrested for soliciting a male undercover police
Republican Rep. Bob Allen of Merritt Island, whose district includes a large swath of east Orange County, was arrested for soliciting a male undercover police officer for sex in a Titusville park restroom. Allen was considered to be acting suspicious by police as he entered and exited the men's room three times, according to a Titusville Police report. Moments later, he approached the plainclothes officer and offered to perform oral sex for $20, police said. Allen faces second degree misdemeanor charges. A seven-year House veteran, the term-limited Allen had been considered a likely Senate candidate next year. He also had been named a co-chairman last spring of Arizona Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign team in Florida. Police said they realized Allen was a public figure after the arrest. 100 comments from 22 users
posted by
tkozy
on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:13 PM
HIS EXCUSE?
HE TOLD COPS THE PARK WAS FULL OF BIG BLACK GUYS, AND WAS AFRAID FOR HIS LIFE.
Allen has sponsored many indecency laws. In addition to being a hypocrite. It appears he is also a racist bigot. posted by
antiextremism
on Aug 7, 2007 at 08:43 PM
To quote Random .....
Aren't there *ANY* straight, non-deviant Republican leaders? posted by
anglo1
on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:29 PM
posted by
sagefever
on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:35 PM
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 7, 2007 at 09:58 PM
Are you suggesting that we should strike down laws in which it is illegal to perform oral sex in a public place?? posted by
anglo1
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Too vague for me Sage, I'm saying he is innocent, now, the left by their own waling's should come to his defense if he is charged with these crimes. And, cops can do politically swayed reporting and arresting in the line of duty. The left wing wackos was for fun, in response to the common right wing nut job. I apologize. If that was the offense. posted by
NancyII
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:20 PM
If he had said 4 BIG white guys would you have said bigoted? Since when did descriptive become bigotry? posted by
NancyII
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:24 PM
posted by
anglo1
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:25 PM
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Thanks for posting the link to the story Tkozy. I think the guy should resign, just like any other elected official who offers or demands oral sex from someone in a public place, whether it be a restroom, or perhaps a federal office with no corners..... http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/... But it was interesting reading the report. It said the police were investigating a burglary of a condo. They saw a saw a "disheveled, unshaven man enter and leave the park restroom three times" and became suspicious. Suspicous of what?? That this may be the burgler and he was stealing toilet paper?? That perhaps the Flomax finally kicked in and maybe Allen needed some assistance with his nozzle?? So they send in a big black plain clothed police officer, Kavanaugh. But not to go in and find out if Allen perhaps has any information on the burglary. They send him in to drop the kids off at the pool. For some reason, apparently the cop has to dry his hands in the stall. Not quite sure what Kavanaugh was doing in the stall that he needed to dry his hands, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was working hard on finding the burgler. I don't know about you, but if I am looking for a burgler, I don't go to public restroom where a strange guy is hanging out and pretend to give birth to another Democrat on the porcelin throne. Allen peeks over the stall not once, but twice, then joins Kavanaugh in the stall. At any point did Kavanaugh ever ask Allen if he knew anything about a burglary? I mean, that is what he was in their for right, to solve the burglery caper?? After all, we know darn well that most burglary suspects are disheveled men with large prostates that have to go to the bathroom often. I wonder, was there a description of the burglar from which to focus the police search? Or did they just assume that a disheveled man who kept going to the bathroom was a likely suspect? Also, since when was it standard practice to investigate a burlary by sending in a plain clothes officers to a public bathroom?? If you thought a guy was a suspect in a burglary, wouldn't you want to go in their with your weapon drawn, just in case the burglar was armed?? I wonder if they ever caught the burgler.? Too bad Allen isn't black and the officer white. He would be looking at a multi million dollar lawsuit paid for by the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus. posted by
anglo1
on Aug 7, 2007 at 10:54 PM
posted by
sagefever
on Aug 7, 2007 at 11:15 PM
posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:42 AM
I don't think Allen is innocent. I think he's full of it. posted by
sfinboston52
on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:49 AM
Allen=Duh What a freaking idiot Allen is...he was fearing the big ole African American man, after he, Allen walk in/out of the restroom 3 times in a row..then offers $20 to the big ole mean African American so he can blow the big ole mean African American...just does not add up. Allen has always talked about family values and has been so anit-gay...must be self hate! posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:50 AM
I don't think Allen is innocent, never said that. I also don't think the police are telling the truth. Like I said, If Allen were black and the cop white, he would be looking at a couple million dollars. He was simply a target of opportunity for the police. If I'm looking for a burglery suspect, I don't go to a bathroom stall and "dry my hands"... I wonder how that burglery investigation is going. posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:54 AM
posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 8, 2007 at 06:57 AM
posted by
ILUVUSA
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:01 AM
I guess I am on the other side. It just amazes me how people on this blog automatically go to the defense on simeone arrested. It also amazes me that so many people are agaist police and law enforcement however if someone is breaking into your house at 3:00 am or your mother or sister has been raped and beaten or your child molested at his/her school who is the first person you call? POLICE!!!!!! If he were arrested for molesting a child in that restroom and that child was yours would you still feel he's innocent and that the POLICE were acting wrong? I don't think so. Sounds like the guy is a scum bag and finally got caught. And yes is I were looking for a burglary suspect and the area contained a park sometime you "watch" areas as people move through them. If you were a burglar would you run from the scene and keep running? NO you would leave, maybe hide and see if the police showed up. Then WALK as not to draw attention to your self.....
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:06 AM
The officer went into the bathroom to look for a pervert, not a burglary suspect. He found what he was looking for. Titusville police told the Sentinel that they were investigating a nearby condo burglary when they saw a disheveled, unshaven man enter and leave the park restroom three times. They decided to send in Officer Danny Kavanaugh. In a statement, Kavanaugh said he was drying his hands in a stall when Allen peered -- twice -- over the stall door, then joined Kavanaugh inside. "This is kind of a public place," isn't it?" the Sentinel quoted Allen as saying; he then suggested "going across the bridge; it's quieter over there." Like I said earlier. A target of opportunity. I have no problem with police arresting gay guys trying to get some in public. But at least make up a better story than that...posted by
sfinboston52
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:09 AM
it really is a victimless crime, is it sleazy oh yes!!!! Should it be a crime? who knows...but the matter of fact is the Allen held himself up as a "family values" type man and has a strong record of attacking the civil rights of americans who are gay. Allen is a hypocrit and a scum bag. posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:09 AM
posted by
sfinboston52
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:11 AM
I have no problem with police arresting gay guys trying to get some in public. But at least make up a better story than that... what about st8 people who are tying to get it in public...it must held up equally. posted by
TSM
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:23 AM
Glenn Murphy, Jr., the recently elected chairman of the Young Republican National Federation (also the RNC Chair for Clark County, Indiana and formerly the YRNF Secretary) has been accused of sexually assaulting a sleeping man. Immediately following the accusation, he came up with an unrelated reason to resign, and the YRNF cleansed their website of his name. Taking Down Words, an Indiana blog, has been following this guy for some time. And guess what? Apparently this isn't the first time his mouth has ended up on someone's privates while they were asleep. Glenn Murphy has a prior arrest for sexual battery. Here's the 1998 Clark County police report. A snippet, for your entertainment.
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:24 AM
I have no problem with the vice squad doing their job, against straight and gay.. I kinda get a little uneasy when burglary detectives start taking out targets of opportunity.. If Allens constituency is made up of family values folk, then he damn well better be pushing the family values agenda in his work life. What he does in his private life is up to him, unless it becomes and issue with his constitutents.. That doesn't make him a hypocrite, unless of course you think it is hypocritical for a gay legislator to represent a straight consitutuency... Maybe Allen was turning tricks for Barney Frank. Hey, maybe the police should check Barney Franks condo. Maybe that is where the burglar is... posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:25 AM
RonM, he wasn't demanding oral sex, he was offering it--and offering to pay for delivering it to boot. . I think the guy seriously needs a boyfriend. And a marriage license. That kind of thing tends to put a limit on your sexual activity. . Oh, and a better alibi. At least the head of the national Young Republicans had a cover story ready as to why *HE* had to resign after "allegedly" sexually assaulting one of his comrades. posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:28 AM
Oh, and please note: "non-consensual." That's the key in the YR case. The Young Republicans male-only, invitation-only sex orgies are fine with me. . I suspect Allen's personal life and his private one are about to collide violently, RonM. . And I think it is hypocritical for a gay man to represent a straight constituency, pretending to oppose such behavior while indulging therin.
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:31 AM
I think the guy seriously needs a boyfriend. And a marriage license. That kind of thing tends to put a limit on your sexual activity.
Maybe he could work for Barney Frank, Democratic Congressman, as a "special" advisor. I hear Barney has some spare space in his Washington condo. And the pay seems to be much better than the going rate in a public bathroom in Florida.. posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:34 AM
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:41 AM
You mean the Barney Frank that is a Democrat hypocrite who runs a gay whore house out of his goverment paid for condo on the side? Or ar you talking about some other Democrat? ...I think Allen might be able to look past that bit of hypocrisy and possibly get a job with Frank. Dems are always preaching diversity, ya know. Frank could add a Republcan to his stable of highly paid c*cks*ck@r$... posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:44 AM
Did Barney Frank rise to power by campaigning *AGAINST* homosexuality, RonM? *THAT* would be hypocrisy. You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it means. . And once again, I don't think Frank (or Bill Clinton, since you inevitably had to involve the Clenis in this thread) has to pay for it. Unlike Allen. How *BAD* do you have to be at sex that you have to *PAY* people to accept your "favors"? posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:48 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:53 AM
Yes, I do, RonM, at least in the case of Clinton. . The Starr witchhunt spent $50 million in tax money to ultimately clear Bill Clinton. Let's spend the same amount and give the same treatment to Shrub, shall we? posted by
TSM
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:53 AM
Maybe Allen was turning tricks for Barney Frank. Hey, maybe the police should check Barney Franks condo. Maybe that is where the burglar is... Please explain what this has to do with Allen's case. How often have we seen this? A conservative will start to lose a debate and resort to bringing up something completely unrelated and 20 to 30 years in the past.
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:55 AM
posted by
TSM
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:56 AM
You mean the Barney Frank that is a Democrat hypocrite who runs a gay whore house out of his goverment paid for condo on the side? This is a lie. All the parties involved admitted Frank had no knowledge of the activity. It took place when Frank was not in Washington or anywhere near the condo. Just what are you trying to accomplish here? Bringing up Frank is not helping you defend Allen in any way. In fact, it's doing just the opposite, along with making you look extremely desperate.
posted by
TSM
on Aug 8, 2007 at 07:58 AM
Might want to read your post from 7:28 Umm... My post is relevant because it's about another conservative hypocrite like Allen. I'm still waiting on you to tell us what an openly gay man (Frank) has to do with Allen, a hypocritical gay man.
posted by
ceeceehowell
on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:00 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:01 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:02 AM
posted by
ceeceehowell
on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:08 AM
posted by
Katatak
on Aug 8, 2007 at 08:08 AM
Republicans have a long criminal rap sheet for pedophiles and other deviants. Sunday, July 29, 2007
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