I'm looking for the original footage ... it seems many sites have edited out the crowing ego.

Owe has an agenda and its not the american people..he has alot of americans fooled into believing he cares but his actions since day one when he first apologized to the world for things our forefathers were involved with on down to todays horrific act...the world is laughing at us because of him and his antics...it wouldnt surprize me a bit if he was aware of and condones more terrorist plans on our continent in the near future..

Good luck finding it Vanity, I'm sure his supporters will try to see it never surfaces.

And Bush was criticized for reading to CHILDREN...not patting himself on the back.  Wonder where obama would be in a REAL crisis.

Ah yes, it's drinkin gliberally tonight.  That would account for the "absence of malice" on the blog...so far anyway.

Watch out now don't talk about Obama, he's changing things. ~winks~

   "That would account for the "absence of malice" on the blog...so far anyway."

 Nancy, you and Vanityfare are out and about ...

--virgil

See Nancy................you MISspoke!!!!!  too soon!!!

virgil: go read this one and weep!!!!!  http://people.bakersfield.c...>http://people.bakersfield.c...>http://people.bakersfield.c... style="color: windowtext;">http://people.bakersfield.c...

Vanity, your title of this blog say's it all about this president.

There was an audible gasp in the crowd when the president mentioned the shooting, indicating that attendees of the conference had not yet heard about it.  

Presidential? A competent leader? A person with an ounce of compassion or reason?

No.

The media won't cover this as it should. 

Couldn't find a thing on his "response" or lack thereof.

Witters, I heard it live on the radio today. I can't find it in any archives. 

Vanity, would the video footage provided by Fox News suffice? Of course, we can always count on good ol' Foxy to do what the state-run media doesn't even give the pretense to do: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Allah in a day's work, I guess.

Thank you pax! Excellent youtube clip.

Yes, everyone needs to see that arrogance from our CIC. 

All I have to say on this issue is NO ONE ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH  ;could have stepped into the presidential office and turned around the situation this world has already been in. All president's have their faults. It was either Obama or McCain that graduated somewhere around third from the bottom of his class. Who would you choose the honor student or the student who could pay attention in class. He was really the only logical choice. Bush watched thousands suffer in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Just think the government couldn't even provide water to those people in a reasonable amount of time. All in All we are all screwed no matter who is in office. Get Over IT

Sorry....I meant to write "who would you choose the honor student or the student whom could not pay attention in class."

Obama ain't doing no better, what about all of the soldiers that are fighting in Afghanistan, do you think he cares about all of the life's that have been destroyed over there. No, instead you see him always giving meaningless speeches or playing golf all of the time. He's all talk!

my son just told me this weekend he heard he will be going back over this time to Afghanistan....Obama *IS* all talk..he lied his way into office and these poor suckers dont even realize it or their so embarrassed they continue to back him for their own *PRIDES* (or lack there of) sake...

and PLEASE dont tell me well look at what Bush accomplished...I havent met a conservative on here yet that agreed with what he did during his term except around the time of 911..even democrats were behind him then..if you didnt then you were "UNAMERICAN* and are *FREE* to place the lips where the sun don't shine...

You who place such reverence for school class position would do well to remember that some of the greatest leaders of our time did not walk the hallowed halls of Harvard or Princeton.   This one upsmanship sounds more like kids bragging than an actual analysis of a persons ability to lead.

Nancy, the smartest people are not high school dropouts who through blind luck or circumstance find a widget they can sell and make millions of dollars. Comments like your above one on the value of education just sounds like sour grapes. I would point out to you that most of the Presidents we have elected over the past 75 years have graduated from prestigious private schools or from a military academy. FDR was from Harvard, as was JFK . Bill Clinton graduated from Georgetown University and then graduate school from Yale. Both Bush Presidents graduated from Yale. Dwight Eisenhower was a West Point graduate. Jimmy Carter graduated from Annapolis. Nixon was accepted to both Yale and Harvard but due to financial constraints had to attend Whittier College, but then earned his law degree at the still prestigious Duke University. Gerald Ford graduated from the University of Michigan. Ronald Reagan and Lyndon Johnson both graduated from small colleges. Harry Truman is the only President in more than a century not to have graduated from college, and Truman was denied entrance to the military academies solely due to his poor eyesight.

Your attempt to deride higher education, and President Obama's leadership skills, only serves to demonstrate your adeptness at denial. 

Shamless?

That's what this blog is for blaming President Obama for not reacting in the way you deem proper.   Honest to God the man can't breathe without someone's critisicing him for it. 

This is called SMALL POTATOES.  Totally unlike an attack on the World Trade Center or something. 

ON another note, Obama did not lie his way into office.  He didn't need to.  Nor did he need to steal the election.  Unlike Bush during his first campaign.  Remember he was appointed president by an biased judge from the state in which his brother was governor.

I just watched the clip, and I honestly don't see what the big stink is about.  I think it was completely appropriate for the President to begin his speech as planned, and I don't see him tooting his own horn, as some of you do - I see him explaining a plan of action.  

As it pertains to "insensitivity" - what more do you want the man to do - cry on camera?  He specifically called it a "horrific outburst of violence" and stated that his thoughts and prayers were with those wounded and for the families involved.  I'd say mission accomplished.

Adam - it's very sad that some people on these blogs have such animosity towards those who were fortunate enough to get a higher education.

Good job VF; keep up the good work no matter what.

On this Vanity you and I disgree.

Nancy, I go to Drink liberal on thursday and we are not malice people.

Nancy, I go to Drink liberal on thursday and we are not malice people.

Well, not after a few beers, no...

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You who place such reverence for school class position would do well to remember that some of the greatest leaders of our time did not walk the hallowed halls of Harvard or Princeton.  

Surely you're not talking about C-Minus Augustus (who did go to Yale, and ought to go to jail).  Or his proposed successor who barely avoided flunking out of a trade school.  Can you name one?

" Comments like your above one on the value of education just sounds like sour grapes."  

Wrong.  I'm one of the last people on earth to devalue education but no matter what I say, you and your ilk are quick to decide that's what I'm saying.   It sounds to me like YOU are devaluing higher EDU more than I am.  I SAID that the one upsmanship is kids stuff.  To graduate from ANY institute of higher EDU is a feat in itself and yet because Bush didn' t place as high in his class as Obama did you seems to think that qualifies him to be a world leader.

You're talking about presidents when you say they all graduated from an Ivy league university and you said yourself that Eisenhower graduated from West Point.  That is an education geared to teach leadership and yet you can't even see the difference.  I have no clue what you're talking about when you say I talking sour grapes over education.  All I'm saying and have ever said is that graduating highest in your class at Harvard does NOT necessarily qualify anyone to be a leader, much less a world leader.

To graduate from ANY institute of higher EDU is a feat in itself and yet because Bush didn' t place as high in his class as Obama did you seems to think that qualifies him to be a world leader.

I'll agree with you on this, Nancy - graduating from any institution of higher learning is commendable.  I also agree that comparing undergrad GPA's is rather stupid.

However, Obama does have more education overall than Bush did - that is one fact that no one can deny. 

 Jesus ...  

"Good job VF; keep up the good work no matter what."

Yeah, if it were not for the sins of our founding fathers, we would'nt be putting up with a Negro as the president of the United States right now.

--virgil

"Obama does have more education overall than Bush did - that is one fact that no one can deny."    edited..(at that level I mean)

 And that matters how FSG?

Thank you for understanding my point though, I do appreciate that.

 Negros are not supposed to be smart; and, if they are, you can't trust them.

--virgil

Nancy

You should attend one of the DL sessions.  Everyone has been invited. 

  Most of the people who attend are non bloggers and  are not, therefore,   interested in anything that happens on this blog.  It's bad form to bring things up which most of the group are not familiar with. 

I didn't realize that DL causes such paranoia for some of you.  

Ike also attended the Army War College separately from West Point (which was his second choice; he wanted Annapolis.)

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All I'm saying and have ever said is that graduating highest in your class at Harvard does NOT necessarily qualify anyone to be a leader, much less a world leader.

The problem is that the anti-intellectualism inculcated in the Republican party seems to see that as a *DISQUALIFICATION*.  Either way, Obama's doing a pretty good job so far.  Given my druthers, I'd rather have someone at the top of the class in Harvard as president than someone at the bottom of the class at Annapolis.

And, thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I *DID* get my druthers.

However, Obama does have more education overall than Bush did - that is one fact that no one can deny. 

obviously not enough to pull his head out of his ASS, quit giving away taxpayer money, only to be frittered away on exec bonuses, and to quit hanging around extremists like J Wright and W Ayers....along with some of his CZARS.

he's not that bright

BTW... those that were able to graduate from an institution of higher learning WITHOUT  coming away with a liberal slant need to be  applauded...i couldnt believe the CRAP i had to sit through just to get good grades that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the class, and EVERYTHING to do with the professor's personal politics.....

how in the hell does personal liberal politics play into biology classes?  i can see history, sociology and poli sci...but FREEKIN biology??  gimm a break CSUBig stinkin liberals

 And that matters how FSG?

Considering Obama was a Professor of Law, I'd say it matters quite a bit as it pertains to being POTUS.  Bush might have had governing experience, but there's no way he was as comprehensive on Federal law as Obama is. 

In the end, though, no one is truly prepared to be President.  It is a unique job that virtually every man who's held it has had to take time to fill in to, even when there wasn't much time available.  I think most Presidents have had strengths and weaknesses.  There were certain qualities of Bush, for example, that I actually liked.  I might not have agreed with the man on everything, but I had to admire his attitude of sticking to his guns (more figurativily), as an example.  Each person brings something different to the table - some have more education than others.  Some have military experience.  Some have wealth.

Unfortunately, gone are the days when we are willing to lay down the sword of battle and try to show support for someone who has a heavy burden.  I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I gave Bush a couple of years to prove himself.  I really wish those who oppose Obama would do the same.  It's really sickening how nitpicky some are so early on in his Presidency.

Learnem, education obviously did more for Obama than it did for you.  Perhaps you should stop judging the man for not having *YOUR* failings?  

A better man than you would have paid attention in biology class.  And I'm quite certain Obama *DID*.

learnem - are you sure that you didn't have preconceived notions going into college? 

I went all 4 years without once being lectured by a professor on politics, unless the course itself had the subject matter within it's realms of discussion (international relations, comparative politics, war & the nation state, modern political thought, etc..).

I know plenty of conservatives who agree with me on this one.

I guess the title of this blog says it all; also the first few comments were from the faithful entering into another mutual hate fest for the un-educated. It is sad really, that a few woefully un-informed people can be so bitter about not getting their way in an election. 

All that is missing is some poor soul crying "I want my country back".

Get over it.

FSG, you obviously never attended Santa Cruz.  Grandson (conservative) said he though he would get lynched befor transferring out.

(actually partly the reason for transferred was because of the drizzle and cold.)

Nancy, hard to judge a school by one student. My youngest daughter graduated with honors from Santa Cruz and is still a very proud Banana Slug. Oldest grandaughter couldn't stand being away from hot, dusty Bako (and mommy) and dropped out. So, maybe it is the student not the school.

I never meant to imply there was anything wrong with the school.  But it IS a liberal university.  FSG was saying he was never lectured about politics.  That wasn't grandsons experience at Santa Cruz. 

It truly is one of the most beautiful campuses though.  Trouble is grandson was, like your granddaughter, he liked the weather here better.  One thing he did like was that a troupe of female bicylists would ride through their dorm area topless.  They were pretty liberal that way too.

I never meant to imply there was anything wrong with the school.  But it IS a liberal university.

All education is liberal, Nancy, because it deals in facts.

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earnem, education obviously did more for Obama than it did for you.  Perhaps you should stop judging the man for not having *YOUR* failings?  

A better man than you would have paid attention in biology class.  And I'm quite certain Obama *DID*.

and yet another personal attack...you know...the ones you DONT commit...blinded snow crap? 

Obama probably got through college by pulling the minority card, in color and religion....It sure doesnt look like he's very well educated with the calls he's made and the friends he's chosen.

but we will never know will we? as he refuses to release his transcripts, as well as college applications....for fear of what i have no idea. (sarcasm)

Nancy - my point is that too often, people will judge an entire system off of one example.  Are there Universities who have a reputation for having students and faculty that lean in one political direction or another? Sure.  In fact, go to some of the Private colleges, and I'll show you where there just might be a conservative slant.  The point is that getting a University education doesn't always mean that someone will be subjected to a specific political slant.  In reality, the vast majority of Universities are full of instructors who care more about their research than touting some political message. 

It's merely an observation, learnem.  Obama became President of the United States largely because he paid attention in his classes.

You became what you are because you didn't.  You also chose your friends and allies on that basis.  He is much the better man for his choices...obviously.

For what it's worth, I *ALSO* paid attention in my classes.

It's merely an observation, learnem.  Obama became President of the United States largely because he paid attention in his classes.

You became what you are because you didn't.  You also chose your friends and allies on that basis.  He is much the better man for his choices...obviously.

For what it's worth, I *ALSO* paid attention in my classes.

y oure just full of personal attacks today arent you?  from NEVER to just full of them.....it works really well when you believe your own lies about "observations" doesnt it?

Im glad you paid attention...but with all your previous lies...i cannot take anything you type as honest coming from you.

we'll just call it entertainment

 nothing wrong with banana slugs !

--virgil

Learnem, I stay within the bounds of the TOS on this board.  Did *YOU* just recently get edited over something *YOU* posted?  Last time that happened to *ME* was almost a year ago.

You're quite entertaining too, albeit in the sense of "gee, that guy who just fell into the sewer looked funny when he did it." 

Nancy, I told my daughter the first time we saw the Santa Cruz campus on a visit, "If you don't go here, I will." It is truly beautiful. And yes, it is very, very liberal. I would imagine someone with strong conservative views would feel intimidated. 

Drat, I missed the female bikers, I need to start working on another degree.

FSG..read Ogos comment about Santa Cruz.

Pogo, he wasn't intimadated at all, hence the comment that he thought he might get lynched..lol.

Nancy - reread my comment.. I stated that there are indeed Universities known for a specific political slant, but that doesn't mean that every University acts in such a manner.

Funny.. most of the places that are considered liberal also happen to probably cost more money, and might also be more selective in who they allow in - if a conservative has the finances and the aptitude to get in to these schools, why couldn't they just apply to a similar institution that doesn't have the political issues?

I know for a fact that I definitely avoided a few Colleges/Universities for the sheer fact that I wasn't in the mood to be surrounded by rich snobs.

Drat, I missed the female bikers,

We all just missed it:  it's in June

 http://www.worldnakedbikeri...  (Not especially safe for work.)

Plan ahead for next year.