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May 11, 2008 at 06:05 PM : "America is...

"America is unfair! " ~Michelle Obama

Who's pay went from $121,000 per year to $316,000 per year as soon as her husband was elected in Illinois.............

(pictured above -- typical white person.........)

May 11, 2008 at 07:05 PM : Chico, Sad but...

Chico,

Sad but true..............................sad but true................

May 11, 2008 at 08:05 PM : Thank you Chico - so...

Thank you Chico - so much to be said for "old" people. As opposed to the other blog that has "kids" yammering and whining. they are idiots.

May 11, 2008 at 08:05 PM : Trouble is witter,...

Trouble is witter, they think they have all the answers.

Someday they may realize they didn't.

I say "may" because they aren't nearly as smart as they think. Some are so dumb they will never learn!

May 11, 2008 at 08:05 PM : I know rocks smarter...

I know rocks smarter then those idiots! Even a tetsi fly has a bigger brain! I'd love to be a fly on the wall when one of them gets "old" and has to have assistance peeing!!!

May 11, 2008 at 09:05 PM : wheres the blog..nahh...

wheres the blog..nahh never mind ..Im an old person too ..and my blood pressure probably couldnt take it..

May 12, 2008 at 06:05 AM : Thanks Chico, for...

Thanks Chico, for those of us who remember hearing Kate Smith sing "God Bless America" the first time on radio. I don't see that happening again for this generation.

May 12, 2008 at 06:05 AM : No Sam, for this...

No Sam, for this generation it'll be someone "kewl" like Jayzee BigDaddy Mac10 Def Jam Bustacapon Yoazzz with his rap rendition of Michelle Obama's new rap song: "I hate America and If you don't like me -- You're a Bigot!"

Published by CopKilla Records in conjunction wif Ice Tea Bag - No Hag Productions.........

Get wif it or GTFO!!!!

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : That picture looks...

That picture looks really old (probably from the 70s or early 80s). There are young people who stand for the National Anthem but some just don't know the protocol. It's not purely out of disrespect. We're in a different generation and they have to learn it from somewhere (i.e. prior generations).

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : I think they ...

I think they "learned" it from their Gen X Momma's and Daddy's jf.

Not sure the time frame of pic is operative however. I think today it would be the same.

BTW, since we are picking at pic, did you notice they are all white? ;=)

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : I think you might be...

I think you might be right about the Gen. X "learning", Chico. What does the white comment mean? Are you saying non-white people don't attend such events or that whites can fall under all ends of the patriotic-nonpatriotic spectrum?

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : I would suspect the...

I would suspect the former, jfrancais, since the fairy-tale being spun this year against Obama is that he's not white enough to be President.

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : that&nbs...

that whites can fall under all ends of the patriotic-nonpatriotic spectrum?

That one. You don't know me very well.................

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : Of course RF will spin...

Of course RF will spin EVERYTHING to his party's advantage.

Perceived or puerile.

May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM : BTW Chico..looks like...

BTW Chico..looks like a black man is hoistin old glory 8-)

Please dont become a rascist cause I really enjoy ur posts...prejudice SUX no matter what part of a cow you got on the grill.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : you didn't read...

you didn't read my posts, at least hereon (or elsewhere for that matter Sioux) very well

Racism exists at all ends of the spectrum

Some doth protesteth far too much

A wndow to their true feelings perhaps?

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Chico ..a...

Chico ..a racist? Surely you jest. He's one of the least racist here in my thinking. Once again, people are so reactionary when White, Black, or Mexican is used in a sentence.

Oh..I think I brought that up on a previous blog. It's ok to say "white group" or "Mexican group" or "______ group. Really it is. It doesn't make you a racist.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Speaking of SUCKING...

Speaking of SUCKING theres that Obama word...

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : GOOD I got the...

GOOD I got the response I was looking for. I can now go eat my breakfast with complete faith restored in one of my blog heros.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Or try to apply...

Or try to apply reverse spin to *YOUR* spin, Chico. The Republicans clearly wanted to run against Clinton this time; but they'll whisper about Obama just the same.

"Axe" Michelle Obama? I'll wager her diction is better than yours...

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Obama is not...

Obama is not EXPERIENCED enough to be president.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : When Obama is elected,...

When Obama is elected, will the issue of race come up every time one of his actions is questioned by the press or the opposing party?

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : If you havent seen...

If you havent seen this take the time to review it ..real eye opener

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : That's the...

That's the million dollar question Audrey. And a very good one. It's actually one of the reasons I don't think he'll get elected. That question is going to be a major part of the election.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Exactly. ...

Exactly. Between now and November, the Republicans are going to ask in a thousand subtle ways, "Is Obama white enough to be President?"

The answer America gives may surprise them...

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : http://www.eyeblast.tv...

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
again i say... go view this and you will see how white YOBAMA isn't

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : And Siouxcity takes up...

And Siouxcity takes up the cry: "Is Obama white enough to be a *REAL* American?"

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : EXACTLY hes a chump...

EXACTLY hes a chump and a bigot..so Im not surprised your impressed with him.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : The question is not...

The question is not whether Obama is white enough to be president. It's whether America is confident enough to question a black presidents's capabilities without fear of the black community calling it racist.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : No, Audrey, the...

No, Audrey, the question is whether about half the old-time Democratic voters will get past the fact that their candidate came in second in the race, and vote for the better of the two remaining choices come November. Because if they don't, I assure you that the second-place candidate will not be in the running come 2012.

And I made that statement without reference to color or gender. Rest assured that the Republicans won't.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Stirring the pot!

Stirring the pot!

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Yes it is, Audrey. A...

Yes it is, Audrey. A lot of those "fears" were vanquished forever after seeing the black reaction to the O.J. verdict. People have been telling it like it is much more overtly since that day in 1995.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : actually the...

actually the Republicans have been pretty low key..its the democrats that have been doing all the mud slinging..Have you readup on McCains wife as compared to Yobamas ding aling..NO COMPARISON...and Clintons spouse??..well I think they have made enough EASY money off the united states to last them and their homely offspring into the next mellenium.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : Random In case...

Random

In case you're thinking that I'm alone in my despair, let me assure you that since my little rant appeared in the paper I've had a half dozen people call and thank me for expressing what they've been feeling.

They're the part of the berg below the water line.

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : ...which is what may...

...which is what may just sink the nation. It may or may not be up to you. We'll see in November.

Siouxcity, what article on McCain's wife? The one about her stealing drugs from a charity and McShrub pulling strings to get her out of the jam?

May 12, 2008 at 08:05 AM : RF I honestly...

RF I honestly don't believe the Republicans wll be the only ones who will ask if racism will be blamed when criticisms about decisions are made.

This election will be unprecedented and I don't believe that people are that sure of their feelings in this matter. I also don't believe anyone can predict with any accuracy what the reactions will be. We've never had to cross this bridge before any more than we would have had to cross the gender bridge.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : We're a nation of...

We're a nation of bridge-crossers, Nancy. I have quite possibly unfounded faith in my fellow voters.

Of course, I said that in 2004 and they screwed it up *AGAIN*...

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : WELL HERES ONE FOR...

WELL HERES ONE FOR START..http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/cindy.asp

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : So Random,it's...

So Random,it's starting already. Are you suggesting that if we don't vote for Obama (cross that bridge) that your faith in a color blind nation will be unfounded.

Maybe some folks just don't like his policies!

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Ok MY BAD??...

Ok MY BAD?? I just read the whole thing..guess we are DOOMED..How cold does it really get in Canada

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : It just shows that...

It just shows that Democrats are still too idealistic, too demanding of perfection, to be able to get along even with one another. They are their own election spoilers, their own worst enemies.

We Republicans have our own idealistic, perfection-demanding wing, but they have not yet busted our party into incompatible halves. But that may be coming.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : True that RF..we ARE a...

True that RF..we ARE a nation of bridge crossers but my point is that we haven't had to cross THAT bridge yet and only time will tell if we're ready or not. I think the last serious bridge we had to cross was with JFK and the fear that the Pope would govern the USA through the Kennedy's.

I'll repeat as often as necessary that I don't care what color the candidate is I'll vote for the one whose beliefs most closely reflect my own.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Thank You Chico...a...

Thank You Chico...a picture is worth a thousand words--and then some....I also noticed the color guard--( pardon the pun )..and it wasn't intended that way....

The future, as we we're lead to believe when WE we're growing up, was to be a better life for ALL....but alot of our young today has not a clue what WE are talking about...because they were never taught this..and I don't mean in a classroom, but in the home....

Semper Fi ' old dude ' in the wheel chair.......and I still STAND for a lady when approached......

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : You'd better...

You'd better watch thy mouth thyself or I'll go back to the bosom of my party and vote Obama.

It's like family. Other relatives can say mean things about family members, but outsiders can't.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Except in this family...

Except in this family feud, the world gets to watch.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : If the Clinton...

If the Clinton supporters ask for a divorce who will get custody of Michael Moore?

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : You tell 'em,...

You tell 'em, Audrey. I happen to think Senator Clinton would make a hell of a lot better Majority Leader than Reid anyway.

It's six months to the election. The world will look different on that side of the bridge.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Every generation (Baby...

Every generation (Baby boomers included) has its flaws. The current young generation is no different than their predecessors.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Custody of Michael...

Custody of Michael Moore? If you know what's good for you, the orphanage. (smile)

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Some of US baby...

Some of US baby boomers did our bit for God and country....some took off across the border because their grades made them eligible...and today they are among us in nice chussy J.O.B.S. wanting people to believe that they are holier than thou.....I'm sorry, I've had enough smoke blown my way....

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : It's interesting...

It's interesting that you mention how your generation wanted a better future for all. I think that exist today but some consider that to be the American taboo: socialist. I guess we all want the same things we just see flaws in other generations and have different ideas of getting to the same goal of making the world a better place.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : I think Moore will do...

I think Moore will do just fine on his own.

Ling, many of the guys who "took off" are now running the Executive branch of the government.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Do they fall under the...

Do they fall under the patriotic or unpatriotic part of the spectrum?

spam code: cplan (commie plan?/Capitalist plan?)

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : If it wasn't for...

If it wasn't for OUR fathers and Our fathers-fathers--(mothers too)...we would be spending the duech mark and yen, rather than the dollar.....that generation SAVED the world so that we can do what we do today...God Bless them ALL....

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : I watched a two hour...

I watched a two hour speical last night about the Hippies of the late 60's and early 70's. I'd forgotten how depressing that time was.

I was on the fringes of that culture, too scared (smart) to take drugs or do anything that would permanently alter my life. I had good friends in that culture though; some of them died living that culture.

From my perspective Hippies were the dumbest posers who ever trod the earth (except for 17th Frenchmen) Their only saving grace is that they grew too old to continue being completely self absorbed.

I hated that era. I hope it never returns.

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : But you are right in...

But you are right in many ways...it is time for a fresh way of thinking---and today we must think outside of the box....the good ol boy way of government gotta go.....and we don't have much time to try to put out the fires...America is rapidlly becoming a third-world country....

Heck, we spend more taking care of other nations that could care less about us...time to take care of ourselves....

May 12, 2008 at 09:05 AM : Depends on who's...

Depends on who's making the spectrum, jfrancais. I suspect they think their lapel pins will get them into heaven.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Audrey, I suspect...

Audrey, I suspect those hippies had a better effect on the country than you knew.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Promiscuity, drugs,...

Promiscuity, drugs, lack of commitment, granny glasses and dumb hair styles. I don't think so.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Peace Corps, antiwar...

Peace Corps, antiwar movement, civil-rights movement and tie-dye.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Peace Corps (1961) and...

Peace Corps (1961) and Civil Rights ( Kennedy's foundation Johnson's administration) predate the hippies.

Hippies did riot and cause the war to come to an abrupt end. The free for all withdrawal from Saigon can be viewed as good or bad depending on whether you were a loyal South Viet Namese.

The explosion of pornography, expecting something for nothing, poor parenting, ugly Volkswagen's - all attributable to Hippies

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Plus, a...

Plus, a sympathetic press is to blame for Spiro Agnew saying "nattering nabobs of negativity". Unforgivable!

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : What happened to...

What happened to Spiro? What happened to his boss? What happened to the Vietnam War?

All three ended, because the political climate changed. Hippies didn't start the Peace Corps but they flocked to it. Same with the Civil Rights movement.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : I don't care if...

I don't care if Oscama is black, white or green. His socialist policies and his voting record is what matters. It all depends on what road America should follow and his road leads to destruction.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : You care about one of...

You care about one of those colors. But Obama is less of a socialist than Shrub is.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : The road of supposed...

The road of supposed free markets and unquestioned faith in the private industry to cure social ills can lead to destruction, too.

May 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM : Agnew was charged and...

Agnew was charged and convicted of racketeering by the same system the Hippies hated.

Hippies had nothing to do with his conviction, except to take credit. It predated his term as VP.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Is that what...

Is that what the concern of him winning the election is all about? Reparations? Where did that come from? I don't think I've heard that mentioned once in any debate, stump speach, or campaign by any candidate explicitly or implicitly.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Assuming you mean...

Assuming you mean "reparations to blacks," No.

Flat no.

[Expanding here] Not that someone might not introduce it symbolically. But it won't get out of committee.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : I was one of those...

I was one of those ' hippies ' when I enlisted into the Marine Corps.....did my bit--6 yrs.--gotta a whole new outlook on life...

My Dr. at the V.A. clinic here in Bakersfield is the son of one of the S.Vietnamese that was evacuated during the fall of Viet Nam....to this day,he thanks the Marines for going in to the city and getting his parents out....that does my heart good,considering the flack we endured when we came home to our own people during that time...........

Of course,thats just my opinion

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Na. Ga. ...

Na. Ga. Ha. Pen.

They can also introduce the subject of breathing underwater, but that's na-ga-ha-pen either.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : I'm not being...

I'm not being dismissive. I'm actually surprised that it has been brought up. I had never heard of that (I'll have to watch CSPAN) . Is it a concern of yours? I guess it's valid to introduce it so that it can be properly addressed (and dismissed). There are much more important issues in this election that a token gesture like reparations.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Brother Ling -- I...

Brother Ling -- I actually voted for McGovern. God it hurts to admit that. Of course, as I have said before, I hung out with brother crusty vets and sister "hippies" and kinda got "sucked in to it!"

My girl friend at the time was a big anti-war advocate and we both had our ulterior motives I guess -- she using me as an anti-war vet and me using her as a ......... well, good lookin hippy chick ;=) ........ OK.... I am weak.......

I rode my dirt bike a lot, let my hair grow, even went to a Jane Fonda rally once (down at BC actually)....... when she started spouting crap that I knew to be just that (about the war and certain tactics) I just couldn't take it anymore. Started reading, got a new girl friend and became increasingly conservative........

We all change.........

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Is there anything in...

Is there anything in BO's past where he even remotely suggest such an idea or we're still in crucifixion by proxy mode? I'm interested in what BO has to say when he eventually addresses this.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : $777 trillion dollars...

$777 trillion dollars is not a token gesture but nor does it ameliorate the past or the institutions of injustice and inequality. Even if it had political teeth who would sign off on such an astronomical figure? I can't see BO or congress doing such a thing. This whole issue just plays on the fears of folks in the anti-BO camp.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : He said the other day...

He said the other day he has campaigned in all 57 states. I still haven't found out which ones he actually meant. Hamas may run a couple.

If McCain had made a statement like that he'd have already been force-relegated to Flaccid Phallus Manor by the press (and RF) by now.

BTW, some of my favorites for POTUS from Rep side (McCain wasn't even in top 5) are black. Not that that means anything but I've always liked Michael Steele and JC Watts.......... lots.

There's nothing harder in this country today than to be black and conservative. You can put that on demand deposit with Wells.............

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : The very idea that...

The very idea that reparations are owed to Blacks of today for what Whites did in Slave days is ludicrous at best. If someone wanted to give me money for some wrong done my family 100-200 years ago I'd say wahooo I'm headed to Walmart... but all the while I'd know it was not "owed" to me.

Audrey, some don't realize you can play devils advocate without the comment necessarily being your stance. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a question is just a question.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Black and...

Black and conservative...talk about minority. The bits I know of JC Watts (a conservative, played college football, from OK, to name a few) makes him an interesting figure to me.

I prefer to leave McCain's age (and BO's race) out of it. Sometimes such things are an issue with people. I would like to believe that the eventual president will win on his (what the heck...or hers) own merits. I'm optimistic (for the first time in my life) this election.

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : Chico...he just...

Chico...he just "misspoke." :-)

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : I saw a movie back...

I saw a movie back then (at little REMF place called Phu Hiep) called "Little Faus and Big Halsey" with Robert Redford......

I'm sure it was really stupid (never even heard of it since) but I just had to get me this little Husquavarna dirt bike with a chrome gas tank when I got back to the world.

I dreamed about letting my hair grow, sipping ice cold Oly and Coors (we used to get Carling Black Label at firebases for some reason), getting a girl friend, attending college........... that was the stuff of dreams.

I never realized that the expectation is always greater than the reality. But it got me through..............

I wonder what McCain dreamed of in Hanoi Hilton?

May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM : I guess some people...

I guess some people don't realize that a response to a question by the devil's advocate is a question to the larger blogosphere (i.e. are people *really* concerned about reparations with bigger issues on the political table?).

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Chico...he just...

Chico...he just "misspoke." :-)

I wondered if it was in reference to Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.

or possibly

Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Libya (trip with LF and Rev Wrong), etc.......

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Jf ...sorry if it...

Jf ...sorry if it seemed I was targeting your comment. I was actually just commenting on Audreys comment that she was playing devils advocate.

Someone once told me on here that his comment wasn't meant for me but if I got in the line of fire, that's just the way it was. No offense meant.

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Racism in its truest...

Racism in its truest form doesn't have a (D) or (R) behind it.

Just as it goes by no particular color or other outward appearance grouping -- ethnic, geographical, other......

This will be made crystal clear in the upcoming months..................

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : BTW...

BTW They're asking for $777 trillion dollars.

And a pony. Na. Ga. Ha. Pen.

That would be almost as much money as the national debt after the first McShrub term.

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Racism in its truest...

Racism in its truest form begins "I'm not a racist, but..."

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Back in the day,I...

Back in the day,I really didn't care WHO our Commander in Chief was....I signed a contract AND swore an oath..I rather like to think that was my hand shake and word.....

Black/White....man or woman...whom-ever wins the election is going to need the support of ALL AMERICANS...we better think about this very carefully....We have had enough smoke blown up our rears to float us all like balloons by ALL of our politicians....enough talk..it's time for action...time to get us out of our paranoid state of mind and take care of our own....

Some people say that running a country is like running a major corporation...don't corporations FIRE those who do a crappy job---my bad....they reward them with hundreds of millions of dollars and the golden parachute--(Home Depot).....

My vote would be either the CEO of G.E.--(Aerospace Warheads and a bitichin refrigerator) and Kaiser--(Proctalogy)...he/she would know how to give it to the American people.....

We got to think outside the box on this election......Pat Paulson or Charles Manson

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : I really like...

I really like Obama....but I see he doesn't have a chance with White America......

I really hope he can bring us together......someone needs to because this is starting to be ridiculous..

Audrey you are racist sweety. You are not playing devils advocate....that is your true self.

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Wright never spoke for...

Wright never spoke for Obama. Obama speaks for Obama. And he apparently spoke against reparations when he trounced the lunatic Alan Keyes for his current Senate seat.

He's talked about the concept of reparations as being things like more investment in poorer schools.

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : Racism in...

Racism in its truest form begins "I'm not a racist, but..."

No RF, in its truest form it usually commences with: "I'm big Govt (read Liberal Democrat politician) and I'm here to help you.........."

May 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM : I don't watch...

I don't watch MSNBC at all (but I watch CNN on primary nights). Most of the media I pay attention to is through the the online Yahoo! networks and NPR. I've also followed the Obama campaign more than the other candidates (surprise). Again, I've never even heard the word "reparations" from BO since he's been on the campaign trail. Do you have a link or source as to where he has alluded (or made vague references) to the issue?

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : Now a new lapel pin is...

Now a new lapel pin is even proffered:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/new-patriotic-o.html

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : Audrey: Fair enough....

Audrey: Fair enough. The sooner it's addressed, the better.

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : I'm...

I'm sure Obabma realizes these guys are out there and they are serious.

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/02/war-on-terror-going-after-people-that.html

It could be an action packed term if he's elected, and hows he going to handle the rest of the world's problems when hes having to deal with this at home. Is he going to drive around in a bullet proof HUMVEE with a machine gun ontop like the one my boy has been in the past 8 months. Difference might be he will have air conditioning in it where our soldiers aren't afforded that luxury. Sometimes it reaches 150 degrees inside dressed in full gear and occassionally some one will loose conciousness from heat exposure. Sorry going off topic

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : If I sound like a...

If I sound like a bigot to you I am okay with that? I can handle the truth ...can you? Audrey I know you are not very hip but you need to "Keep it real" unlike your preferred candidate. ......if you are a little prejudice it is okay. I am pretty sure Obama will be okay without your vote.....

No, that was not clear enough for me....Audrey you need to read all of your black and white blogs......you sound just like me.....

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : I want to know how...

I want to know how Obama would react to a Martian invasion.

That's a more real prospect than $777 trillion in reparations.

May 12, 2008 at 01:05 PM : Why not make it $666...

Why not make it $666 trillion to label Obama the second coming of Satan?

Spam code:slkgd (slick God?)

May 12, 2008 at 02:05 PM : That's...

That's the figure McCain's pastor John Hagee is using.

May 12, 2008 at 02:05 PM : My apologies to all...

My apologies to all for attempting to ask a legitimate question.

May 12, 2008 at 02:05 PM : I gave a...

I gave a legitimate answer, Audrey.

Spam code PTL FU--my answer to Jim Bakker.

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : so your trying to piss...

so your trying to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining Hillary Filly Clinton and Flap o Bamma are all the Dem's have

Ron= Allred

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : That's OK Random,...

That's OK Random, I've proved my own point.

When anything controversial comes up, will Obama's supporters always hide behind charges of racism?

Reparations was a red herring! I knew it would generate some heat but never thought I would be called racist for raising the question.

This convinces me that nobody really wants an open discussion about Obama's religious, philosophical, or political leanings. No one wants to penetrate deeper than his vague dreams and a few borrowed "words" from MLK, Churchill and Roosevelt.

How else do you get to know a candidate unless you can also ask the politically incorrect questions? Reparations has managed to be discussed on Washington Today several times without anyone getting hysterical and calling someone else racist. That wasn't true on this blog.

If the subject can't even be raised when Obama's a candidate is there hope for discussion in the press and congress if Obama makes a misstep in office?

For four months I saw Hillary dragged over the coals while Obama was held up as the second coming of Christ. For the sake of America I hope he can quit dreaming and start dealing with the ugly reality of day to day life. Otherwise I think the next four years will make the last eight seem like a vacation.

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : I apologize, Aubrey....

I apologize, Aubrey. My last comment was said in jest (not to belittle you).

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : Audrey, timec...

Audrey, timec didn't waste any time proving that point did she?

And so it goes. And will go.

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : That's OK...

That's OK jfrancais

Tempers flew.

I want to support Obama, I really do. But he's too much of a mystery for me.

I want more meat and potatoes and less "I have a dream".

May 12, 2008 at 03:05 PM : Audrey, that's...

Audrey, that's all than McCain's offering.

There is no "there" there.

And the "racism" accusation didn't come from me. Just sayin'.

If you remember the classic book "Games People Play," the Republicans always love playing "let's you and him fight," because it's the only way they get a chance to raid the treasury. And boy, did they pull a raid over the past seven years. I want to invite you to play "let's you and I kick the hell out of *THEM*" for a change.

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : I...

I won't attempt to shed light on Obama's campaign anymore (even though the issue of him being untouchable because of his race still bothers me.) I'm not going to embrace McCain either.

At this point I'm undecided.

Obama - inexperienced, an unknown quantity, wear's a teflon suit by grace of his being black, not enough meat and potatoes in his speeches, has a wife with a big mouth, who knows what the hell he really stands for

McCain - republican who supports Bush's war, will appoint conservative judges, has a barbie doll wife, will side with big oil and big business over the good of the people, with continue to trash the environment, is old and may become senile in office

I think I'll just stay home on election night.

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : Random if all your...

Random if all your after is revenge O Bammeeeeee might sneak up behind you and lay a right hook on your temple Buddy

I have come to the conculsion Why not vote for Bammmmeeeee

He will help us get to the final END This Country and Time will cease

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : Mom, I guess the...

Mom,

I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I totally agree with you about Obama. AND McCain. I'll be staying home, too. Like I said, Obama's campaign song should be "The Candyman." "Who can take the sunshine, sprinkle it with dew? The Candyman! The Candyman can 'cause he mixes it with love and makes the world feel good."

But can he balance the budget? The trade deficit? Sort out Iraq?

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : I still have to say...

I still have to say McCain is by far the lesser of the evils

And for those purists who don't believe in the lesser of evils construct,

I hope you never get cancer.

Chemo & Rad are damn sure evils, but a dman site bettern' the alternative!

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : McCain's the one...

McCain's the one with the violent temper, Ron.

What I want is justice. I want the people who are trying to destroy this country for their private gain, to be brought to trial.

If McCain's buddy John Hagee and his religious nutcases succeed in pushing this country into a wider war in the Middle East, *AND* (as is certain) there's no Rapture and no Second Coming, only unnecessary blood and death, I want them marched onto the front lines to explain themselves.

Not much to ask, is it?

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : Violent temper...

Violent temper indeed! RF, if you had been through one millionth of what McCain has, you'd be a raving lunatic.................

Oh..........wait a minute .................

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : Might I suggest that...

Might I suggest that someone like McCain who's let his life experiences create a violent temper is someone who should be kept about 2000 miles away from the "football"?

May 12, 2008 at 04:05 PM : why the football ref?...

why the football ref?

are you being NFList again?

bigot!