http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384 I know everyone is absolutely stunned at the passing (?) of the only fat mortal to denigrate the Tink of Wink...better know as TinkyWink. Sad times surely lie ahead for us all...being the degenerates that we are...or perhaps just me. I did not hear of Jerry's passing (?) with anything resembling melancholy...no sir...not me. I rejoiced in it...reveled in fact that at last a terrible discordant voice had at last been stilled. How does one describe a man of the so called cloth that held the amount of bigotry in that empty black heart...a man of the Lord? One doesn't...because he held secrets...dark secrets in his breast that he cloaked in religion...and the Lord's work that he was compelled to perform. If there really is a God...s/he should really look into the people that claim to represent his/her Godness...because so many of them make a mockery of the very diety they claim to represent. I'm sure on one hand he presented his God as a merciful and loving God...one that loves all people and creatures of the earth...after all...s/he created them...right? That sounds rather like the intent to treat people and creatures equally to me. Oh...I know man has the dominion over the animals and the fishes of the sea...I know the drill. But if man were created in the Divine one's image...(love, faith, intelligence and mercy...or something like that...it's been a long time for me)...then why would a professed religious leader have such hate in his heart for others that God would automatically love equally? That brings us to Jerry's selection of his choices for evil doers. Gays, Lesbians, anyone not white and a fundamentalist, democrats, same sex marriage, abortion...and a little something called free speech. He took it into his mind that free speech guaranteed by the Constitution...and written by some of the best minds in generations before and to come...that free speech wasn't such a good thing. Of course...he was completely free to say whatever he chose about others. He called Desmond TuTu a phony. That one really sticks in my throat. But one day he thought he'd tangle with Larry Flynt of Hustler fame and found that being the God Guy didn't seem to work for him this time. Jerry tried to sue Larry for printing an advertisement for Campari (an apertif) that talked about a person's first time. It was a light hearted attempt with celebrities in mind. It lead people down the path that ol' Jerry had done IT with his mother-in-law in an outhouse. It was a parody. Well Larry got a fine...and then took it to the Supreme Court...that's right... Flynt appealed to the Supreme Court, which ruled UNANIMOUSLY for him in Hustler Magazine v. Falwell. The opinion, written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, found that creators of parodies of public figures are protected against civil liability by the First Amendment, unless the parody includes false statements of fact made in knowing or reckless disregard for the truth. No one could believe that Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, William Rehnquist and others would side with what was considered a pornographer vs. a preacher. The rule of the day was for free speech. It wasn't that Larry won that day...it was that the 1st Amendment won that day in all its glory...free speech stood alone in that moment in time...and ruled the day. Falwell was the detritus left at the side of the road of truth and right. You and I won that day of days...I'll never forget it. The Justices saw what was really at stake...and did the right thing. That must have clogged at least one of Jerry's arteries that very day from disappointment...and his lack of understanding how a righteous Dude like himself could possibly lose...but lose he did...and it was a marvelous thing to behold. So we still had years to go listening to his judgments and pronouncements on people and their lives and what abject sinners they were. Being a bigot, homophobe, hate monger, glutton, man of avarice about town, I'll throw in liar, certainly greed (because we all know the preachers always need money for God)...not sure about lust...but he sure did talk about it a lot...so I'm suspicious I admit. Now by his girth alone I think he may have had a Henry the Vlll complex or something. Let's face it...the guy was a tub of lard! I think he enjoyed a little too much steak and lobster and maybe throw in a lot of alfredo sauce...some wine...and you have a major heart attack in the making. Now I figure that he spent most of his religious life helping to fill people's heart with hate for others not involved in their fundamentalist views...even to the point of putting down Martin Luther King Jr. So for preaching hate to his followers and intolerance of others (in soooo many ways)...I nominate Jerry for a turn with the worms of eternity. May he not rest in peace...with the kind of body fat he carried around I'd say that he'll keep the creatures of the underworld gnawing happy for some time to come. And during that time...he might reflect on his mistakes to his fellow man...equal in the sight of his God mind you...and suffer the pangs of the damned as according to his bible...he should be tormented for not following in the footsteps of his Christ who led a simple and pure life...and looked upon all men as worthy of love and kindness...something our Jerry was not capable of...ever. Was there not a commandment of the 10...that said love thy neighbor as thyself? He must not have liked himself. People look to denigrate others in order to make themselves look good...what a very sad day for religion that is indeed. I know everyone is absolutely stunned at the passing (?) of the only fat mortal to denigrate the Tink of Wink...better know as TinkyWink. Sad times surely lie ahead for us all...being the degenerates that we are...or perhaps just me. I did not hear of Jerry's passing (?) with anything resembling melancholy...no sir...not me. I rejoiced in it...reveled in fact that at last a terrible discordant voice had at last been stilled. How does one describe a man of the so called cloth that held the amount of bigotry in that empty black heart...a man of the Lord? One doesn't...because he held secrets...dark secrets in his breast that he cloaked in religion...and the Lord's work that he was compelled to perform. If there really is a God...s/he should really look into the people that claim to represent his/her Godness...because so many of them make a mockery of the very diety they claim to represent. I'm sure on one hand he presented his God as a merciful and loving God...one that loves all people and creatures of the earth...after all...s/he created them...right? That sounds rather like the intent to treat people and creatures equally to me. Oh...I know man has the dominion over the animals and the fishes of the sea...I know the drill. But if man were created in the Divine one's image...(love, faith, intelligence and mercy...or something like that...it's been a long time for me)...then why would a professed religious leader have such hate in his heart for others that God would automatically love equally? That brings us to Jerry's selection of his choices for evil doers. Gays, Lesbians, anyone not white and a fundamentalist, democrats, same sex marriage, abortion...and a little something called free speech. He took it into his mind that free speech guaranteed by the Constitution...and written by some of the best minds in generations before and to come...that free speech wasn't such a good thing. Of course...he was completely free to say whatever he chose about others. He called Desmond TuTu a phony. That one really sticks in my throat. But one day he thought he'd tangle with Larry Flynt of Hustler fame and found that being the God Guy didn't seem to work for him this time. Jerry tried to sue Larry for printing an advertisement for Campari (an apertif) that talked about a person's first time. It was a light hearted attempt with celebrities in mind. It lead people down the path that ol' Jerry had done IT with his mother-in-law in an outhouse. It was a parody. Well Larry got a fine...and then took it to the Supreme Court...that's right... Flynt appealed to the Supreme Court, which ruled UNANIMOUSLY for him in Hustler Magazine v. Falwell. The opinion, written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, found that creators of parodies of public figures are protected against civil liability by the First Amendment, unless the parody includes false statements of fact made in knowing or reckless disregard for the truth. No one could believe that Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, William Rehnquist and others would side with what was considered a pornographer vs. a preacher. The rule of the day was for free speech. It wasn't that Larry won that day...it was that the 1st Amendment won that day in all its glory...free speech stood alone in that moment in time...and ruled the day. Falwell was the detritus left at the side of the road of truth and right. You and I won that day of days...I'll never forget it. The Justices saw what was really at stake...and did the right thing. That must have clogged at least one of Jerry's arteries that very day from disappointment...and his lack of understanding how a righteous Dude like himself could possibly lose...but lose he did...and it was a marvelous thing to behold. So we still had years to go listening to his judgments and pronouncements on people and their lives and what abject sinners they were. Being a bigot, homophobe, hate monger, glutton, man of avarice about town, I'll throw in liar, certainly greed (because we all know the preachers always need money for God)...not sure about lust...but he sure did talk about it a lot...so I'm suspicious I admit. Now by his girth alone I think he may have had a Henry the Vlll complex or something. Let's face it...the guy was a tub of lard! I think he enjoyed a little too much steak and lobster and maybe throw in a lot of alfredo sauce...some wine...and you have a major heart attack in the making. Now I figure that he spent most of his religious life helping to fill people's heart with hate for others not involved in their fundamentalist views...even to the point of putting down Martin Luther King Jr. So for preaching hate to his followers and intolerance of others (in soooo many ways)...I nominate Jerry for a turn with the worms of eternity. May he not rest in peace...with the kind of body fat he carried around I'd say that he'll keep the creatures of the underworld gnawing happy for some time to come. And during that time...he might reflect on his mistakes to his fellow man...equal in the sight of his God mind you...and suffer the pangs of the damned as according to his bible...he should be tormented for not following in the footsteps of his Christ who led a simple and pure life...and looked upon all men as worthy of love and kindness...something our Jerry was not capable of...ever. Was there not a commandment of the 10...that said love thy neighbor as thyself? He must not have liked himself. People look to denigrate others in order to make themselves look good...what a very sad day for religion that is indeed. en-us All his hatred for people different than himself, overshadowed any possible good this man ever did during his lifetime. To build an entire career on hating others and using the Lord's name to do it..is disgusting and immoral. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91455 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91455 All his hatred for people different than himself, overshadowed any possible good this man ever did during his lifetime. To build an entire career on hating others and using the Lord's name to do it..is disgusting and immoral. <p>While it was fun to beat Jerry up about the Tinky Winky episode, if I recall correctly it was just some flunky who put that into one of&nbsp;Falwell's newsletters.</p> <p>.</p> <p>And everyone *KNOWS* the real gay&nbsp;danger is Spongebob Squarepants...and don't get me started on the obviously-circumsized Boobahs.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobah">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobah</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91493 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91493 <p>While it was fun to beat Jerry up about the Tinky Winky episode, if I recall correctly it was just some flunky who put that into one of&nbsp;Falwell's newsletters.</p> <p>.</p> <p>And everyone *KNOWS* the real gay&nbsp;danger is Spongebob Squarepants...and don't get me started on the obviously-circumsized Boobahs.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobah">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobah</a></p> I shall remember him as a divisive, hateful, bigoted blowhard, who scammed his followers out of millions by use of fear and used that to live a high flying gluttony.  And some of his outrageious pronouncements made one wonder about his sanity. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91515 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91515 I shall remember him as a divisive, hateful, bigoted blowhard, who scammed his followers out of millions by use of fear and used that to live a high flying gluttony.  And some of his outrageious pronouncements made one wonder about his sanity. Say what you will about the So Called Christian Right ,but the majority of hate mail in this arena seems to be from those who claim to be liberal,rational,intelligent, compassionate, tolerant, and progressive.&nbsp; The old saying goes,&quot; we will know them by their fruits&quot;&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91525 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91525 Say what you will about the So Called Christian Right ,but the majority of hate mail in this arena seems to be from those who claim to be liberal,rational,intelligent, compassionate, tolerant, and progressive.&nbsp; The old saying goes,&quot; we will know them by their fruits&quot;&nbsp; <p>*ABOUT* someone who was intolerant, bigoted, hateful and narrow-minded.&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>The so-called Christian Right always seems surprised that we don't like tolerating intolerance, something they have no problem with at all.&nbsp; I personally think that Falwell just got a larger share of the contempt that all his ilk deserve--like the &quot;outrageous pronouncements&quot; thing which more than likely includes such things as Nutty Pat Robertson's pronouncements of divinely-sanctioned assassinations--because he was among the first.&nbsp; And also because he was instrumental in the attempted destruction of the United States.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91531 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91531 <p>*ABOUT* someone who was intolerant, bigoted, hateful and narrow-minded.&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>The so-called Christian Right always seems surprised that we don't like tolerating intolerance, something they have no problem with at all.&nbsp; I personally think that Falwell just got a larger share of the contempt that all his ilk deserve--like the &quot;outrageous pronouncements&quot; thing which more than likely includes such things as Nutty Pat Robertson's pronouncements of divinely-sanctioned assassinations--because he was among the first.&nbsp; And also because he was instrumental in the attempted destruction of the United States.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> WOW..didn't take Jason long to yank that offensive post did it RF?&nbsp; Good job Jason. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91536 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91536 WOW..didn't take Jason long to yank that offensive post did it RF?&nbsp; Good job Jason. Someone complained. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91542 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91542 Someone complained. Jason is on the job..YAY! But I missed the offensive comment. Oh well, can't have it both ways :P http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91544 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91544 Jason is on the job..YAY! But I missed the offensive comment. Oh well, can't have it both ways :P <p>At long last, have you people no decency? Piling on a guy when he's down...........way down.</p> <p><img src="http://www.gawker.com/assets/resources/2006/09/hillary%20clinton%20vs%20lucifer.jpg" alt="" /></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91564 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91564 <p>At long last, have you people no decency? Piling on a guy when he's down...........way down.</p> <p><img src="http://www.gawker.com/assets/resources/2006/09/hillary%20clinton%20vs%20lucifer.jpg" alt="" /></p> <p>Farwell Falwell!&nbsp; All's well that ends well!&nbsp; Actually, I've never been a big Falwell fan.&nbsp; He was always a little over the top for me (alot over the top at times), and he was in bad need of a fashion consultant.&nbsp; </p> <p>Maybe he was misunderstood to a certain degree, but his appearance and some of the capriciously foolish, and often self-righteous-sounding&nbsp;statements rendered him an easy person to mock.&nbsp;&nbsp; Still, he did lots of good.&nbsp;&nbsp; That &quot;good&quot; just needed to be done with a bit more moderate, humble&nbsp;tone, a little more empathy towards those who differed from him,&nbsp;and a little more open-mindedness.&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91567 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91567 <p>Farwell Falwell!&nbsp; All's well that ends well!&nbsp; Actually, I've never been a big Falwell fan.&nbsp; He was always a little over the top for me (alot over the top at times), and he was in bad need of a fashion consultant.&nbsp; </p> <p>Maybe he was misunderstood to a certain degree, but his appearance and some of the capriciously foolish, and often self-righteous-sounding&nbsp;statements rendered him an easy person to mock.&nbsp;&nbsp; Still, he did lots of good.&nbsp;&nbsp; That &quot;good&quot; just needed to be done with a bit more moderate, humble&nbsp;tone, a little more empathy towards those who differed from him,&nbsp;and a little more open-mindedness.&nbsp; </p> lol anti..that is where he should go, afterall, he was doing Satan's work when he spew his hatred..it surely wasn't the Lords work. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91569 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91569 lol anti..that is where he should go, afterall, he was doing Satan's work when he spew his hatred..it surely wasn't the Lords work. <font size="4">Buffo you hit the nail right on the head,&nbsp; the bloggers on this and others about Falwell are mean spirited red diaper doper babies form the left.&nbsp; They HATE anyone who disagrees with them.&nbsp; They simply cannot believe they are the Immoral Minority!</font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91571 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91571 <font size="4">Buffo you hit the nail right on the head,&nbsp; the bloggers on this and others about Falwell are mean spirited red diaper doper babies form the left.&nbsp; They HATE anyone who disagrees with them.&nbsp; They simply cannot believe they are the Immoral Minority!</font> I don't *form* the left. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91576 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91576 I don't *form* the left. The always ego-laden Donnie is up and moving around. If voting last Nov was any indication Donnie, you and your ilk are the minority..its a fact you can not dispute. Get a new line you hate-mongering bag of hotair, its not even yours for the love of God, you stole it..not an original thought in that head of yours Donnie? Why am I not surprized. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91586 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91586 The always ego-laden Donnie is up and moving around. If voting last Nov was any indication Donnie, you and your ilk are the minority..its a fact you can not dispute. Get a new line you hate-mongering bag of hotair, its not even yours for the love of God, you stole it..not an original thought in that head of yours Donnie? Why am I not surprized. I'll take this moniker...<font size="4">red diaper doper babies</font>... any day of the week!&nbsp; This is better by far than being in Falwell's skin.&nbsp; While I don't think he'll have to stand before a God to make his pathetic case for his un-christian actions and words...he will undergo his own eternity of body degradation that suits me just fine.&nbsp; All liars and deceiving blowhards&nbsp; should end this way.&nbsp; The worms go in...the worms go out...<br /> <br /> Mr. Tinky Winky...yelling &quot;Freedom!&quot; to all his little followers... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91631 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91631 I'll take this moniker...<font size="4">red diaper doper babies</font>... any day of the week!&nbsp; This is better by far than being in Falwell's skin.&nbsp; While I don't think he'll have to stand before a God to make his pathetic case for his un-christian actions and words...he will undergo his own eternity of body degradation that suits me just fine.&nbsp; All liars and deceiving blowhards&nbsp; should end this way.&nbsp; The worms go in...the worms go out...<br /> <br /> Mr. Tinky Winky...yelling &quot;Freedom!&quot; to all his little followers... There are a couple cuties on this blog that I wouldn't mind seeing in red diapers... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91632 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91632 There are a couple cuties on this blog that I wouldn't mind seeing in red diapers... Heh heh...I hear it is quite the fashion...I for one don't mind at all! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91634 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91634 Heh heh...I hear it is quite the fashion...I for one don't mind at all! Please don't feed the troll, folks. Their black little souls and&nbsp;lizard brains&nbsp;thrive on attention and hate. Logic and rationality only serves to enrage them more. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91637 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91637 Please don't feed the troll, folks. Their black little souls and&nbsp;lizard brains&nbsp;thrive on attention and hate. Logic and rationality only serves to enrage them more. Darn it!&nbsp; It's fun! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91643 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91643 Darn it!&nbsp; It's fun! Some &quot;trolls&quot; thrive on&nbsp;total deprivation, Mattloch.&nbsp; Trolls come in all shapes and sizes. I put the term in&nbsp;quotes because it's often use as a label for the purpose of margainalizing those who go against the grain of the prevailing views expressed on a given site.&nbsp; Of&nbsp;course, I know you would never use&nbsp;it for that purpose Mattloch, but there are those with much more sinister intentions who throw the label around a little too loosely.&nbsp; &nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91646 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91646 Some &quot;trolls&quot; thrive on&nbsp;total deprivation, Mattloch.&nbsp; Trolls come in all shapes and sizes. I put the term in&nbsp;quotes because it's often use as a label for the purpose of margainalizing those who go against the grain of the prevailing views expressed on a given site.&nbsp; Of&nbsp;course, I know you would never use&nbsp;it for that purpose Mattloch, but there are those with much more sinister intentions who throw the label around a little too loosely.&nbsp; &nbsp; I have to say that was very funny BLT! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91650 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91650 I have to say that was very funny BLT! Would you prefer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll">links</a> to the <a href="http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp">term</a> &quot;<a href="http://www.flayme.com/troll/eradication.shtml">troll</a>&quot;, <strong>BLT</strong>? Want me to break down don's post into it's component (trollish) parts? Trust me, I don't toss the term around loosely. I was chided the first time I used the term and had to explain to Jason that it was an actual <em>technical</em> term and not an insult (one of the defenses against slander charges is the truth). When you say &quot;deprivation&quot;, I hope you're not using the &quot;witholding (attention)&quot; definition, but instead the &quot;acting in a debased or sub-human manner&quot; definition. But I guess either one would work...... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91662 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91662 Would you prefer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll">links</a> to the <a href="http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp">term</a> &quot;<a href="http://www.flayme.com/troll/eradication.shtml">troll</a>&quot;, <strong>BLT</strong>? Want me to break down don's post into it's component (trollish) parts? Trust me, I don't toss the term around loosely. I was chided the first time I used the term and had to explain to Jason that it was an actual <em>technical</em> term and not an insult (one of the defenses against slander charges is the truth). When you say &quot;deprivation&quot;, I hope you're not using the &quot;witholding (attention)&quot; definition, but instead the &quot;acting in a debased or sub-human manner&quot; definition. But I guess either one would work...... Woohoo...Mattlock! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91665 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91665 Woohoo...Mattlock! <p class="blogcommentbody"><font color="#ff6600" size="3">Buffo you hit the nail right on the head,  the bloggers on this and others about Falwell are mean spirited red diaper doper babies form the left.  They HATE anyone who disagrees with them.  They simply cannot believe they are the Immoral Minority!</font></p> <font color="#3366ff" size="3"> <div class="blogcommentbody">The always ego-laden Donnie is up and moving around. If voting last Nov was any indication Donnie, you and your ilk are the minority..its a fact you can not dispute. Get a new line you hate-mongering bag of hotair, its not even yours for the love of God, you stole it..not an original thought in that head of yours Donnie? Why am I not surprized.</div> </font> <p class="blogcommentbody"> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91687 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91687 <p class="blogcommentbody"><font color="#ff6600" size="3">Buffo you hit the nail right on the head,  the bloggers on this and others about Falwell are mean spirited red diaper doper babies form the left.  They HATE anyone who disagrees with them.  They simply cannot believe they are the Immoral Minority!</font></p> <font color="#3366ff" size="3"> <div class="blogcommentbody">The always ego-laden Donnie is up and moving around. If voting last Nov was any indication Donnie, you and your ilk are the minority..its a fact you can not dispute. Get a new line you hate-mongering bag of hotair, its not even yours for the love of God, you stole it..not an original thought in that head of yours Donnie? Why am I not surprized.</div> </font> <p class="blogcommentbody"> </p> <p><em>Would you prefer </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" target="_blank"><em>links</em></a><em> to the </em><a href="http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp" target="_blank"><em>term</em></a><em> &quot;</em><a href="http://www.flayme.com/troll/eradication.shtml" target="_blank"><em>troll</em></a><em>&quot;, <strong>BLT</strong>? Want me to break down don's post into it's component (trollish) parts? Trust me, I don't toss the term around loosely.</em></p> <p>&quot;Of&nbsp;course, I know you would never use&nbsp;it for that purpose Mattloch, but there are those with much more sinister intentions who throw the label around a little too loosely.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>It's always a good idea to read the small print, even when all of the print is small.&nbsp; In your defense, Mattloch, I could understand how you may have&nbsp;automatically&nbsp;interpreted my&nbsp;statement as sarcastic and cynical, given that the blogosphere, the United States, and indeed the world, has been poisoned by the cyanide of cynicism.&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91690 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91690 <p><em>Would you prefer </em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" target="_blank"><em>links</em></a><em> to the </em><a href="http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp" target="_blank"><em>term</em></a><em> &quot;</em><a href="http://www.flayme.com/troll/eradication.shtml" target="_blank"><em>troll</em></a><em>&quot;, <strong>BLT</strong>? Want me to break down don's post into it's component (trollish) parts? Trust me, I don't toss the term around loosely.</em></p> <p>&quot;Of&nbsp;course, I know you would never use&nbsp;it for that purpose Mattloch, but there are those with much more sinister intentions who throw the label around a little too loosely.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>It's always a good idea to read the small print, even when all of the print is small.&nbsp; In your defense, Mattloch, I could understand how you may have&nbsp;automatically&nbsp;interpreted my&nbsp;statement as sarcastic and cynical, given that the blogosphere, the United States, and indeed the world, has been poisoned by the cyanide of cynicism.&nbsp; </p> <h2><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/05/16/falwell_tinky/print.html">Tinky Winky says bye-bye to Jerry Falwell</a></h2> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><strong>The former TV star recalls the trauma of being called gay by the conservative preacher.</strong> </font> <p><strong>By King Kaufman</strong></p> <font face="times new roman, times, serif" size="3"> <p><font size="2">May. 16, 2007 | Eight years ago the Rev. </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/jerry_falwell/"><font size="2">Jerry Falwell</font></a><font size="2"> warned parents that BBC children's television star Tinky Winky was a hidden symbol of homosexuality. Falwell died Tuesday at 73, and the world wanted to talk to Tinky Winky. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;They're calling again, again, again,&quot; he said by phone from his home in Islington, in London. A spokesman said the former &quot;Teletubbies&quot; costar got more than 100 calls from reporters in the hour following news of Falwell's death. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;Oh dear, it's easy to say the wrong thing here,&quot; he said. &quot;Tinky Winky sad whenever someone dies, but ...&quot; He left it hanging there. </font></p> <p><font size="2">In a 1999 article in his National Liberty Journal headlined &quot;Tinky Winky Comes Out of the Closet,&quot; Falwell pointed out that Winky could be taken as representing </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/gays/"><font size="2">gays.</font></a><font size="2"> </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;He is purple -- the gay pride color, and his antenna is shaped like a triangle -- the gay pride symbol,&quot; Falwell wrote. &quot;The character, whose voice is that of a boy, has been found carrying a red purse in many episodes and has become a favorite character among gay groups worldwide.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">In the resulting media firestorm, gay-rights activists called for Winky to come out while </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/christian/"><font size="2">Christian</font></a><font size="2"> groups demanded the BBC fire him so that he couldn't, in Falwell's words, &quot;role-model the gay lifestyle.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;It was traumatizing, really,&quot; says Winky, who now owns a holistic healing center and makes occasional appearances on British TV. &quot;I'm a very private Teletubby. I just wanted to get away, go over the hills and far away. But when you're 7 feet tall and purple with an antenna on your head and a TV screen in your belly, where are you going to go?&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky says he tried to contact Falwell after the article came out, but the evangelist wouldn't take his calls. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I wanted to know why he didn't talk to me first,&quot; Winky says. &quot;It's not like I'm hard to reach. Have the pinwheel call me. But really I just wanted to clap him on the head with Tinky Winky bag.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">The star never has clarified his sexual orientation, insisting on his privacy and denying rumors over the years that he had affairs with two of his costars on the 1997-2001 show, the male Dipsy and the female Po. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;We love each other <em>very</em> much,&quot; he says. &quot;Big hug. But it's not like that. It was a kids show, know what I mean? And this Falwell guy and his followers wanted to turn us into something else. We weren't modeling a gay lifestyle and we weren't trying to corrupt anyone's kids. We were just kids ourselves, really. Give us a little Tubby toast or custard and a film of some kids washing clothes or something, that's all we needed. We didn't give a shit about modeling a lifestyle.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Tinky Winky sounds angry. The wounds are still raw. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I'm just practicing my craft, working for the kids, and all at once the tabloids are everywhere on me,&quot; he says. &quot;I couldn't even go out. Was it a gay club? Was I talking to a woman? It was bollocks.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky chuckles. &quot;I must say, though,&quot; he says, &quot;without getting into too many details, we had a girl in the group who ran around this kids show yelling, 'Cooter! Cooter!' And I'm the gay one? Do me a favor.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Through a spokeswoman, Po declined to comment for this article. </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky says the Teletubbies stay in touch, and he remains friends with both Dipsy, who owns a nightclub in West London where Winky is often seen, and Po. Winky says he and Laa-Laa never really got along during the show's run, but, &quot;We're fine now. We've come to appreciate each other.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Asked about Falwell's death, Winky turns serious and chooses his words carefully. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I'm not going to pretend I'm sadder than I am,&quot; he says. &quot;There were late nights during the dark times when I wished to hear news like this. I'd be lying if I denied that. I don't feel that way anymore. I like to think I've grown over the years, gotten past all that pain. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;But at the end of the day, I'm not terribly sad, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Jerry Falwell was a divisive person, a hateful person, and what I've tried to be all about, in the Teletubbies days and since then, has been love. I've got to keep it that way. I don't want anybody feeling good about it when it's my time for Tubby bye-bye.&quot;</font></p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91692 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91692 <h2><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/05/16/falwell_tinky/print.html">Tinky Winky says bye-bye to Jerry Falwell</a></h2> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><strong>The former TV star recalls the trauma of being called gay by the conservative preacher.</strong> </font> <p><strong>By King Kaufman</strong></p> <font face="times new roman, times, serif" size="3"> <p><font size="2">May. 16, 2007 | Eight years ago the Rev. </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/jerry_falwell/"><font size="2">Jerry Falwell</font></a><font size="2"> warned parents that BBC children's television star Tinky Winky was a hidden symbol of homosexuality. Falwell died Tuesday at 73, and the world wanted to talk to Tinky Winky. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;They're calling again, again, again,&quot; he said by phone from his home in Islington, in London. A spokesman said the former &quot;Teletubbies&quot; costar got more than 100 calls from reporters in the hour following news of Falwell's death. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;Oh dear, it's easy to say the wrong thing here,&quot; he said. &quot;Tinky Winky sad whenever someone dies, but ...&quot; He left it hanging there. </font></p> <p><font size="2">In a 1999 article in his National Liberty Journal headlined &quot;Tinky Winky Comes Out of the Closet,&quot; Falwell pointed out that Winky could be taken as representing </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/gays/"><font size="2">gays.</font></a><font size="2"> </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;He is purple -- the gay pride color, and his antenna is shaped like a triangle -- the gay pride symbol,&quot; Falwell wrote. &quot;The character, whose voice is that of a boy, has been found carrying a red purse in many episodes and has become a favorite character among gay groups worldwide.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">In the resulting media firestorm, gay-rights activists called for Winky to come out while </font><a href="http://dir.salon.com/topics/christian/"><font size="2">Christian</font></a><font size="2"> groups demanded the BBC fire him so that he couldn't, in Falwell's words, &quot;role-model the gay lifestyle.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;It was traumatizing, really,&quot; says Winky, who now owns a holistic healing center and makes occasional appearances on British TV. &quot;I'm a very private Teletubby. I just wanted to get away, go over the hills and far away. But when you're 7 feet tall and purple with an antenna on your head and a TV screen in your belly, where are you going to go?&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky says he tried to contact Falwell after the article came out, but the evangelist wouldn't take his calls. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I wanted to know why he didn't talk to me first,&quot; Winky says. &quot;It's not like I'm hard to reach. Have the pinwheel call me. But really I just wanted to clap him on the head with Tinky Winky bag.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">The star never has clarified his sexual orientation, insisting on his privacy and denying rumors over the years that he had affairs with two of his costars on the 1997-2001 show, the male Dipsy and the female Po. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;We love each other <em>very</em> much,&quot; he says. &quot;Big hug. But it's not like that. It was a kids show, know what I mean? And this Falwell guy and his followers wanted to turn us into something else. We weren't modeling a gay lifestyle and we weren't trying to corrupt anyone's kids. We were just kids ourselves, really. Give us a little Tubby toast or custard and a film of some kids washing clothes or something, that's all we needed. We didn't give a shit about modeling a lifestyle.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Tinky Winky sounds angry. The wounds are still raw. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I'm just practicing my craft, working for the kids, and all at once the tabloids are everywhere on me,&quot; he says. &quot;I couldn't even go out. Was it a gay club? Was I talking to a woman? It was bollocks.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky chuckles. &quot;I must say, though,&quot; he says, &quot;without getting into too many details, we had a girl in the group who ran around this kids show yelling, 'Cooter! Cooter!' And I'm the gay one? Do me a favor.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Through a spokeswoman, Po declined to comment for this article. </font></p> <p><font size="2">Winky says the Teletubbies stay in touch, and he remains friends with both Dipsy, who owns a nightclub in West London where Winky is often seen, and Po. Winky says he and Laa-Laa never really got along during the show's run, but, &quot;We're fine now. We've come to appreciate each other.&quot; </font></p> <p><font size="2">Asked about Falwell's death, Winky turns serious and chooses his words carefully. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;I'm not going to pretend I'm sadder than I am,&quot; he says. &quot;There were late nights during the dark times when I wished to hear news like this. I'd be lying if I denied that. I don't feel that way anymore. I like to think I've grown over the years, gotten past all that pain. </font></p> <p><font size="2">&quot;But at the end of the day, I'm not terribly sad, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Jerry Falwell was a divisive person, a hateful person, and what I've tried to be all about, in the Teletubbies days and since then, has been love. I've got to keep it that way. I don't want anybody feeling good about it when it's my time for Tubby bye-bye.&quot;</font></p> </font> <p>*A-GAIN!*</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91696 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91696 <p>*A-GAIN!*</p> There you go again Doc, besmirching cynicism and therefore, it's practitioners. If I wasn't a pessemistic cynic, I'd be depressed all the time!&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91697 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91697 There you go again Doc, besmirching cynicism and therefore, it's practitioners. If I wasn't a pessemistic cynic, I'd be depressed all the time!&nbsp; <p>Well, it looks like we won't have the Comb-licker to kick around soon...</p> <p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSWAT00750820070516?src=051607_1556_TOPSTORY_board_negotiating_wolfowitz_exit">http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSWAT00750820070516?src=051607_1556_TOPSTORY_board_negotiating_wolfowitz_exit</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91699 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91699 <p>Well, it looks like we won't have the Comb-licker to kick around soon...</p> <p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSWAT00750820070516?src=051607_1556_TOPSTORY_board_negotiating_wolfowitz_exit">http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSWAT00750820070516?src=051607_1556_TOPSTORY_board_negotiating_wolfowitz_exit</a></p> He just ran out of people to blame for his &quot;non-issue&quot; <strong>Random</strong>. You know, the one he insisted he had nothing to do with. Then it was the one that he did have something to do with, but that it was ok. Then it was the one that wasn't totally ok, but was only sorta bad. Then it was the one that was the ethic board's fault. Then it was the one that was the girlfriend's fault (because she was such a bee-otch). Now it's the one he'll quit over. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91711 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91711 He just ran out of people to blame for his &quot;non-issue&quot; <strong>Random</strong>. You know, the one he insisted he had nothing to do with. Then it was the one that he did have something to do with, but that it was ok. Then it was the one that wasn't totally ok, but was only sorta bad. Then it was the one that was the ethic board's fault. Then it was the one that was the girlfriend's fault (because she was such a bee-otch). Now it's the one he'll quit over. You know, I've been struggling to find forgiveness for Falwell, since he spent his life trying to harm the Church and America.&nbsp; I won't judge him for it, though I hope he asked for forgiveness before he died.&nbsp; I am sorry that he went before he could publically realize the errors of his ways. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91713 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91713 You know, I've been struggling to find forgiveness for Falwell, since he spent his life trying to harm the Church and America.&nbsp; I won't judge him for it, though I hope he asked for forgiveness before he died.&nbsp; I am sorry that he went before he could publically realize the errors of his ways. <p>On a related issue, has anyone picked this Friday 4 pm EDT for Abu's resignation?&nbsp; I'd like to put a dollar down if not.</p> <p>.</p> <p>By the way, she's actually the Comblicker's&nbsp;&quot;mistress,&quot; &quot;girlfriend&quot; being something of a euphemism in this case.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91714 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91714 <p>On a related issue, has anyone picked this Friday 4 pm EDT for Abu's resignation?&nbsp; I'd like to put a dollar down if not.</p> <p>.</p> <p>By the way, she's actually the Comblicker's&nbsp;&quot;mistress,&quot; &quot;girlfriend&quot; being something of a euphemism in this case.</p> Not that there's anything wrong with that.&nbsp; Lots of people have &quot;arrangements.&quot; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91718 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91718 Not that there's anything wrong with that.&nbsp; Lots of people have &quot;arrangements.&quot; Ah, and now word comes out that Fred Phelps will be picketing the funeral. When will <em>that</em> boil on the ass of humanity finally die? Now there will be a funeral worth going to (or at least a grave worthy of dancing on)! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91725 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91725 Ah, and now word comes out that Fred Phelps will be picketing the funeral. When will <em>that</em> boil on the ass of humanity finally die? Now there will be a funeral worth going to (or at least a grave worthy of dancing on)! Mattloch, this is actually the first time I'm considering not condemning Phelps.&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91728 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91728 Mattloch, this is actually the first time I'm considering not condemning Phelps.&nbsp; OMGoodness!&nbsp; Comb licker...I had to get up off the floor...tears still in eyes to get to the keyboard...still laughing hard...this guy who goes to work with holes in his socks.&nbsp; Not that there is anything wrong with that!&nbsp; Licking ones comb, dentures or socks...nothing wrong with that.&nbsp; But doing it publicly is just soooo wrong...and I'm not a prude either.&nbsp; Somebody with the money to throw around like that wearing socks with holes to the World Bank is just not done.&nbsp; I do believe I've seen video of him picking his nose...ewww!<br /> <br /> This guy with no class needs to retire to the old folks home and he can take his skank with him after all the thievery they've pulled off on the world.&nbsp; He needs a good kick in the nads...if he even has any.&nbsp; I hope his arteries clog and he starts that spiral toward the floor...and as he's going down...his life has to flash before his eyes in slow motion...and he knows his time has come...and OMG! I'm melting...I'm melting!&nbsp; The monkeys flock around him in mock horror...and look to what they believe are the heavens...(whatever!)...and sing in their best monkey sing-song.......&quot;Ding Dong the Wolf is dead...ding dong the wicked Wolf is dead!&quot;<br /> <br /> What an absolutely corrupt government we live under to allow someone of his ilk to stay in office...and then there's Gonzo...but they have to back him...it's gone too far now to back peddle on that.&nbsp; Not enough room to go on with a list here...or time for that matter.&nbsp; As Henry ll said to his immediate guard about Thomas Becket...&quot;Who will rid me of this man?&quot;...or something of that effect without getting out the reference book...it's too hot to think about it. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91729 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91729 OMGoodness!&nbsp; Comb licker...I had to get up off the floor...tears still in eyes to get to the keyboard...still laughing hard...this guy who goes to work with holes in his socks.&nbsp; Not that there is anything wrong with that!&nbsp; Licking ones comb, dentures or socks...nothing wrong with that.&nbsp; But doing it publicly is just soooo wrong...and I'm not a prude either.&nbsp; Somebody with the money to throw around like that wearing socks with holes to the World Bank is just not done.&nbsp; I do believe I've seen video of him picking his nose...ewww!<br /> <br /> This guy with no class needs to retire to the old folks home and he can take his skank with him after all the thievery they've pulled off on the world.&nbsp; He needs a good kick in the nads...if he even has any.&nbsp; I hope his arteries clog and he starts that spiral toward the floor...and as he's going down...his life has to flash before his eyes in slow motion...and he knows his time has come...and OMG! I'm melting...I'm melting!&nbsp; The monkeys flock around him in mock horror...and look to what they believe are the heavens...(whatever!)...and sing in their best monkey sing-song.......&quot;Ding Dong the Wolf is dead...ding dong the wicked Wolf is dead!&quot;<br /> <br /> What an absolutely corrupt government we live under to allow someone of his ilk to stay in office...and then there's Gonzo...but they have to back him...it's gone too far now to back peddle on that.&nbsp; Not enough room to go on with a list here...or time for that matter.&nbsp; As Henry ll said to his immediate guard about Thomas Becket...&quot;Who will rid me of this man?&quot;...or something of that effect without getting out the reference book...it's too hot to think about it. While Falwell wasn't worthy of sympathy, his family is (or at least <em>may</em> be). However when that <a href="http://blank.org/addict/">hate-filled skinbag Phelps</a> dies, there will be <u>nobody</u> to feel sorry for. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91733 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91733 While Falwell wasn't worthy of sympathy, his family is (or at least <em>may</em> be). However when that <a href="http://blank.org/addict/">hate-filled skinbag Phelps</a> dies, there will be <u>nobody</u> to feel sorry for. Anyone with any integrity at all left in the first term.&nbsp;&nbsp;Meddlesome men, all (but many, like Powell, without the apparent&nbsp;integrity of a Becket.) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91734 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91734 Anyone with any integrity at all left in the first term.&nbsp;&nbsp;Meddlesome men, all (but many, like Powell, without the apparent&nbsp;integrity of a Becket.) Even many of his Phelps'&nbsp;family will fail to mourn. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91736 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91736 Even many of his Phelps'&nbsp;family will fail to mourn. Wait a second, are you saying that Ashcroft had <em>integrity</em>? Now <em>I'm</em> the one chuckling. Of course, he comes off as the champion of freedom and liberty compared to Gonzo on this NSA wiretapping story..... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91737 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91737 Wait a second, are you saying that Ashcroft had <em>integrity</em>? Now <em>I'm</em> the one chuckling. Of course, he comes off as the champion of freedom and liberty compared to Gonzo on this NSA wiretapping story..... And do not let us forget Ashcroft penned the famous...&quot;Let the Eagles Soar&quot;...or was that sour...anyway...the guy did some good...heh heh! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91739 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91739 And do not let us forget Ashcroft penned the famous...&quot;Let the Eagles Soar&quot;...or was that sour...anyway...the guy did some good...heh heh! Oh!...and Phelps is a non-entity...no really...seriously...bag of wind nothing!&nbsp; How that bozo gets any press is beyond me.&nbsp; He'd benefit from some clogged arteries too...oh please sir...may I have another bowl of butter sauce with that half of beef? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91741 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91741 Oh!...and Phelps is a non-entity...no really...seriously...bag of wind nothing!&nbsp; How that bozo gets any press is beyond me.&nbsp; He'd benefit from some clogged arteries too...oh please sir...may I have another bowl of butter sauce with that half of beef? <p>Mattloch, I spoke imprecisely.&nbsp; I didn't say only those with integrity left; I said all those with integrity left.&nbsp; We'll see *LOTS* of rats disembarking in coming months.</p> <p>.</p> <p>But true, Ashcroft apparently thinks better under anesthesia than Gonzo does awake...imagine Shrub trying to get someone under treatment in a hospital room to sign legal papers.&nbsp; Who the heck did he think he was, Newt Gingrich?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91746 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91746 <p>Mattloch, I spoke imprecisely.&nbsp; I didn't say only those with integrity left; I said all those with integrity left.&nbsp; We'll see *LOTS* of rats disembarking in coming months.</p> <p>.</p> <p>But true, Ashcroft apparently thinks better under anesthesia than Gonzo does awake...imagine Shrub trying to get someone under treatment in a hospital room to sign legal papers.&nbsp; Who the heck did he think he was, Newt Gingrich?</p> And to take your bet <strong>Random</strong>, I don't think Gonzo will be leaving soon, if ever. He's untouchable unless impeached (which will take time) and is a lightning rod taking attention away from Rove. Besides, who would Bush be able to appoint afterwards? Certainly not another &quot;loyal Bushie&quot;. As long as Gonzo is in place, they&nbsp;can stall or outright prevent so many other things from coming to the forefront. No, I think he's much more valuable to them right where he is. Sure, the Pres loses credibility when he's there, but honestly how much below 25% can he go? The war is hurting him more than Gonzo, so he'll be kept on doing a &quot;heckuva job&quot;. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91751 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91751 And to take your bet <strong>Random</strong>, I don't think Gonzo will be leaving soon, if ever. He's untouchable unless impeached (which will take time) and is a lightning rod taking attention away from Rove. Besides, who would Bush be able to appoint afterwards? Certainly not another &quot;loyal Bushie&quot;. As long as Gonzo is in place, they&nbsp;can stall or outright prevent so many other things from coming to the forefront. No, I think he's much more valuable to them right where he is. Sure, the Pres loses credibility when he's there, but honestly how much below 25% can he go? The war is hurting him more than Gonzo, so he'll be kept on doing a &quot;heckuva job&quot;. <p>The truth about the Rev. Jerry Falwell is that he was a character assassin and hype artist who left little positive impact on the United States&mdash;and little negative impact either, for that matter. Besides founding Liberty University, he won&rsquo;t be remembered as nearly as influential as he&rsquo;s made out to be.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>From the 1980s on, Falwell existed mostly as a media creation, not a real player in national politics. He missed the cable TV revolution, which deprived him of a platform. He took over Jimmy and Tammy Faye Bakker&rsquo;s PTL after it collapsed in scandal, but by then its revenues were a modest $13 million. The related theme park, Heritage USA, went into Chapter 11. His monthly magazine, National Liberty Journal, became a modest success, with an unaudited circulation of 250,000.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack">Falwell&rsquo;s power was hyped not just by him but by a media establishment that needed a consistently conservative voice&mdash;not to mention a &ldquo;guest&rdquo; who could usually be counted on to show up at the studio on time and say something provocative. </p> <p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>The rise of the religious right was an important development in late-20th Century American history. Falwell&rsquo;s name is among those associated with the movement. But just because someone is famous doesn&rsquo;t make him significant. Jerry Falwell wasn&rsquo;t.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack">h<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18686440/site/newsweek">ttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18686440/site/newsweek</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91753 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91753 <p>The truth about the Rev. Jerry Falwell is that he was a character assassin and hype artist who left little positive impact on the United States&mdash;and little negative impact either, for that matter. Besides founding Liberty University, he won&rsquo;t be remembered as nearly as influential as he&rsquo;s made out to be.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>From the 1980s on, Falwell existed mostly as a media creation, not a real player in national politics. He missed the cable TV revolution, which deprived him of a platform. He took over Jimmy and Tammy Faye Bakker&rsquo;s PTL after it collapsed in scandal, but by then its revenues were a modest $13 million. The related theme park, Heritage USA, went into Chapter 11. His monthly magazine, National Liberty Journal, became a modest success, with an unaudited circulation of 250,000.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack">Falwell&rsquo;s power was hyped not just by him but by a media establishment that needed a consistently conservative voice&mdash;not to mention a &ldquo;guest&rdquo; who could usually be counted on to show up at the studio on time and say something provocative. </p> <p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>The rise of the religious right was an important development in late-20th Century American history. Falwell&rsquo;s name is among those associated with the movement. But just because someone is famous doesn&rsquo;t make him significant. Jerry Falwell wasn&rsquo;t.</p> <p class="textBodyBlack">h<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18686440/site/newsweek">ttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18686440/site/newsweek</a></p> <p>Goodling testifies May 23 before the House.</p> <p><a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003238.php">http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003238.php</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91786 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91786 <p>Goodling testifies May 23 before the House.</p> <p><a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003238.php">http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003238.php</a></p> Slate has a good collection of Fatwell's memorable quotes <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2166220/fr/nl/"><strong>here</strong></a>. Thanks for the 411 on Goodling Random :) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91793 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91793 Slate has a good collection of Fatwell's memorable quotes <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2166220/fr/nl/"><strong>here</strong></a>. Thanks for the 411 on Goodling Random :) <p>Let's hope that there's black magic in the name &quot;Monica.&quot;</p> <p>That name spelt trouble for Clinton; maybe another Monica will precipitate the decline and fall of Caesar Bush and Co-Caesar Cheney.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91795 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91795 <p>Let's hope that there's black magic in the name &quot;Monica.&quot;</p> <p>That name spelt trouble for Clinton; maybe another Monica will precipitate the decline and fall of Caesar Bush and Co-Caesar Cheney.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Wouldn't that be marvelous H4F? I can see it all now....Berto will look good in prison orange, Bush not so much. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91800 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91800 Wouldn't that be marvelous H4F? I can see it all now....Berto will look good in prison orange, Bush not so much. <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/bushandcheneyatgitmo.gif" alt="" /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91802 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91802 <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/bushandcheneyatgitmo.gif" alt="" /> <p>Bush would look decent in CDC Blue...&nbsp; Wonder what colors they confer upon crooks in Texas?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91804 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91804 <p>Bush would look decent in CDC Blue...&nbsp; Wonder what colors they confer upon crooks in Texas?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Heresssss Tommy!<br /> <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/delay_jailed.jpg" alt="" /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91806 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91806 Heresssss Tommy!<br /> <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/delay_jailed.jpg" alt="" /> <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/arrestedBush.jpg" alt="" /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91809 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91809 <img src="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/dusty1215/arrestedBush.jpg" alt="" /> <p>Yeah you hate mongering leftists. You should have compassion like the right, you know, all those conservatives who are wishing Cam's hubby well after his motorcycle accident.</p> <p>Oh wait, the only conservative to wish them well was Steve. Way to go Steve, you skewed the compassion stats.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91817 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91817 <p>Yeah you hate mongering leftists. You should have compassion like the right, you know, all those conservatives who are wishing Cam's hubby well after his motorcycle accident.</p> <p>Oh wait, the only conservative to wish them well was Steve. Way to go Steve, you skewed the compassion stats.</p> <p>Well, that's one more picture coming off the most wanted list...</p> <p><img src="http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Falwell_Robertson.jpg" alt="" /></p> <p>I mailed Robertson a gift certificate&nbsp;today....</p> <p><img src="http://www.networkingtheinternet.com/images/kevorkian-gift-certificates.jpg" alt="" /></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91822 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91822 <p>Well, that's one more picture coming off the most wanted list...</p> <p><img src="http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Falwell_Robertson.jpg" alt="" /></p> <p>I mailed Robertson a gift certificate&nbsp;today....</p> <p><img src="http://www.networkingtheinternet.com/images/kevorkian-gift-certificates.jpg" alt="" /></p> Steve is conservative? Really? I thought he was centrist. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91824 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91824 Steve is conservative? Really? I thought he was centrist. He is. But I'd say he is closer to true conservatism than what passes for conservatism these days. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91870 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91870 He is. But I'd say he is closer to true conservatism than what passes for conservatism these days. Don't blame that on Steve.&nbsp;&nbsp;Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no liberals on the golf course. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91875 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91875 Don't blame that on Steve.&nbsp;&nbsp;Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no liberals on the golf course. True dat Anti..same can be said about my Dad. He has sworn off Republican's since Bush showed his true colors. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91876 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91876 True dat Anti..same can be said about my Dad. He has sworn off Republican's since Bush showed his true colors. True Conservatism...there's an oxymoron!  Anyway...true conservatism just sucks the big one.  And what could she possibly mean you are asking yourself by that?  Sucks the big Bozo! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91887 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91887 True Conservatism...there's an oxymoron!  Anyway...true conservatism just sucks the big one.  And what could she possibly mean you are asking yourself by that?  Sucks the big Bozo! <p>bakodon, I'm a registered Republican, and a conservative/moderate, and I'm tickled pink that Falwell bit the wong. </p> <p>Hopefully Pat Robertson will follow him very soon!</p> <p>Die, die, die with festering boils....DIE!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91895 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91895 <p>bakodon, I'm a registered Republican, and a conservative/moderate, and I'm tickled pink that Falwell bit the wong. </p> <p>Hopefully Pat Robertson will follow him very soon!</p> <p>Die, die, die with festering boils....DIE!</p> Welcome aboard JBS...I like the cut of your jib!&nbsp; Festering boils...oh how I wish I had thought of that when I was writing this post...very nice touch!&nbsp; Just because you are a Republican doesn't mean you cannot see the light of day...or recognize something that (ain't) right.&nbsp; And...I'm not being condescending...no sir...I'm not!&nbsp; I may be left of left and wear a red diaper...but that doesn't make me superior in any way...although...I think I'm a pretty good looking kitty in my underwear.&nbsp; Now what did I do with my top?&nbsp; Looking!!!! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91903 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91903 Welcome aboard JBS...I like the cut of your jib!&nbsp; Festering boils...oh how I wish I had thought of that when I was writing this post...very nice touch!&nbsp; Just because you are a Republican doesn't mean you cannot see the light of day...or recognize something that (ain't) right.&nbsp; And...I'm not being condescending...no sir...I'm not!&nbsp; I may be left of left and wear a red diaper...but that doesn't make me superior in any way...although...I think I'm a pretty good looking kitty in my underwear.&nbsp; Now what did I do with my top?&nbsp; Looking!!!! I have to 'fess up that I didn't think&nbsp;of the &quot;festering boils&quot; part on my own. I got it from Louie on &quot;Taxi.&quot; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91912 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91912 I have to 'fess up that I didn't think&nbsp;of the &quot;festering boils&quot; part on my own. I got it from Louie on &quot;Taxi.&quot; Heh heh...of course! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91982 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_91982 Heh heh...of course! If&nbsp;Bush and Cheney are&nbsp;criminals, then then democrats such as Pelosi and Reid are accomplices, for, not only failing to demand prison terms for them, but also for&nbsp;unequivocally dismissing calls for Bush's impeachment.&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92236 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92236 If&nbsp;Bush and Cheney are&nbsp;criminals, then then democrats such as Pelosi and Reid are accomplices, for, not only failing to demand prison terms for them, but also for&nbsp;unequivocally dismissing calls for Bush's impeachment.&nbsp; I don't think that argument is <em>legally</em> correct <strong>BLT</strong>, but morally I'd say more &quot;enablers&quot; than &quot;accomplices&quot;. I'm slowly coming around to the opinion that unless they start opening impeachment charges (you have to initiate charges before investigating them, unlike typical criminal cases where you investigate, <em>then</em> charge). The constant stonewalling, the refusal to answer subpoenas, the lying to Congress, seemingly on and on..... <u>Forget</u> waiting until 2009. Unless you want President Clinton to have the same powers (warrantless wiretapping, political control over Attorney General prosecutions, etc.), conservatives of <u>every</u> stripe had better join up with the &quot;civil libertarians&quot; on this issue and start calling for heads on pikes. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92248 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92248 I don't think that argument is <em>legally</em> correct <strong>BLT</strong>, but morally I'd say more &quot;enablers&quot; than &quot;accomplices&quot;. I'm slowly coming around to the opinion that unless they start opening impeachment charges (you have to initiate charges before investigating them, unlike typical criminal cases where you investigate, <em>then</em> charge). The constant stonewalling, the refusal to answer subpoenas, the lying to Congress, seemingly on and on..... <u>Forget</u> waiting until 2009. Unless you want President Clinton to have the same powers (warrantless wiretapping, political control over Attorney General prosecutions, etc.), conservatives of <u>every</u> stripe had better join up with the &quot;civil libertarians&quot; on this issue and start calling for heads on pikes. <p>Let me get this straight, BLT.&nbsp; The police who don't immediately arrest a murderer before the investigation, and the prosecutor who declines to prosecute the case&nbsp;until the suspect is arrested, are accomplices?&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>Me, I'm holding out for thwarting the criminals' every attempt to destroy the evidence, investigating the situation thoroughly, and then impeaching in January 2009.</p> <p>.</p> <p>And what's this &quot;*IF*&quot; Bush and Cheney are criminals?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92250 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92250 <p>Let me get this straight, BLT.&nbsp; The police who don't immediately arrest a murderer before the investigation, and the prosecutor who declines to prosecute the case&nbsp;until the suspect is arrested, are accomplices?&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>Me, I'm holding out for thwarting the criminals' every attempt to destroy the evidence, investigating the situation thoroughly, and then impeaching in January 2009.</p> <p>.</p> <p>And what's this &quot;*IF*&quot; Bush and Cheney are criminals?</p> <p>Next on my top ten wish list to die is....</p> <p>&ldquo;By taking this firm stance Dobson could very well be the Rosa Parks of intolerance.&rdquo;<br style="FONT-STYLE: italic" /> <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">&mdash; Humorist Steven Colbert, mocking Focus on the Family&rsquo;s James Dobson for saying that federal hate crimes legislation intended to protect LGBT people could &ldquo;pave the way to religious persecution in this country,&rdquo; </span></p> <p><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Hopefulling to be followed shortly by Pat Robertson and Lou Sheldon</span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92258 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92258 <p>Next on my top ten wish list to die is....</p> <p>&ldquo;By taking this firm stance Dobson could very well be the Rosa Parks of intolerance.&rdquo;<br style="FONT-STYLE: italic" /> <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">&mdash; Humorist Steven Colbert, mocking Focus on the Family&rsquo;s James Dobson for saying that federal hate crimes legislation intended to protect LGBT people could &ldquo;pave the way to religious persecution in this country,&rdquo; </span></p> <p><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Hopefulling to be followed shortly by Pat Robertson and Lou Sheldon</span></p> A week from tomorrow this seasons Monica will be taking the stand..she should either make or break this whole GonzoGate situation don't you &quot;libruls&quot; think? <br /> <br /> Personally, I liked Jonathan Turley's assessment last night on Countdown..the reasons for Impeachment are already there in plain sight. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92259 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92259 A week from tomorrow this seasons Monica will be taking the stand..she should either make or break this whole GonzoGate situation don't you &quot;libruls&quot; think? <br /> <br /> Personally, I liked Jonathan Turley's assessment last night on Countdown..the reasons for Impeachment are already there in plain sight. <p>A week from yesterday, I think, Dusty.&nbsp; Next Wednesday.</p> <p>.</p> <p>We've got millions of felonies committed by Bush, and he refused this morning to deny his guilt.&nbsp; That's OK, he can plead the Fifth in front of the committee.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92264 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92264 <p>A week from yesterday, I think, Dusty.&nbsp; Next Wednesday.</p> <p>.</p> <p>We've got millions of felonies committed by Bush, and he refused this morning to deny his guilt.&nbsp; That's OK, he can plead the Fifth in front of the committee.</p> <p>&quot;Next on my top ten wish list to die is....&quot;</p> <p>That clears it up for me.&nbsp; I guess hate is no issue for you.&nbsp; </p> <p>As for the democrats here who are calling Bush and Cheney criminals, you seem to be out of step with your &quot;fearless&quot; leaders.&nbsp; Your sentiments and theirs simply don't match, unless they are being deceiptful and concealing their true sentiments.</p> <p>So I'd save a little of your anger towards your own leaders, who are failing to insert even a bit of backbone if, in fact, they share your sentiments at all.&nbsp;&nbsp; They would never suggested&nbsp;that Bush or Cheney have done anything that would rise to the level of criminal, they have consistently dismissed and distanced themselves from any suggestion of impeachment, and they have now expressed a wish to compromise on a plan for Iraq that will now be bereft of any witholding of funds and dates for withdrawal.&nbsp; Only Kennedy will pull his money where his mouth is.&nbsp; The rest are either incredibly disengenuous, or they are abject cowards.&nbsp; Which is it?&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92267 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92267 <p>&quot;Next on my top ten wish list to die is....&quot;</p> <p>That clears it up for me.&nbsp; I guess hate is no issue for you.&nbsp; </p> <p>As for the democrats here who are calling Bush and Cheney criminals, you seem to be out of step with your &quot;fearless&quot; leaders.&nbsp; Your sentiments and theirs simply don't match, unless they are being deceiptful and concealing their true sentiments.</p> <p>So I'd save a little of your anger towards your own leaders, who are failing to insert even a bit of backbone if, in fact, they share your sentiments at all.&nbsp;&nbsp; They would never suggested&nbsp;that Bush or Cheney have done anything that would rise to the level of criminal, they have consistently dismissed and distanced themselves from any suggestion of impeachment, and they have now expressed a wish to compromise on a plan for Iraq that will now be bereft of any witholding of funds and dates for withdrawal.&nbsp; Only Kennedy will pull his money where his mouth is.&nbsp; The rest are either incredibly disengenuous, or they are abject cowards.&nbsp; Which is it?&nbsp; </p> <p>Blognroll...nope actually goes against what I stand for but when a group of powerful people use religion and politics to attack me, my family, my community then I dont have any love or respect for them.</p> <p>Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Lou Sheldon, Dubya, Karl Rove have all worked to deny my civil rights and the rights of my brothers and sisters who happen to by gay or people of color. </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92269 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92269 <p>Blognroll...nope actually goes against what I stand for but when a group of powerful people use religion and politics to attack me, my family, my community then I dont have any love or respect for them.</p> <p>Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Lou Sheldon, Dubya, Karl Rove have all worked to deny my civil rights and the rights of my brothers and sisters who happen to by gay or people of color. </p> <p>Doc, there's a difference between wishing people would die because you dislike their opinions, and wishing people would die because those people are deliberately trying to harm you.</p> <p>The people that SFinboston lists are deliberately trying to harm us.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92271 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92271 <p>Doc, there's a difference between wishing people would die because you dislike their opinions, and wishing people would die because those people are deliberately trying to harm you.</p> <p>The people that SFinboston lists are deliberately trying to harm us.</p> Your right Random..a week from yesterday..MUST SEE TV..will you be able to watch it? I can live blog it..or just post the good stuff from TPM..they and Truthout always live blog these roasts..I mean hearings. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92272 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92272 Your right Random..a week from yesterday..MUST SEE TV..will you be able to watch it? I can live blog it..or just post the good stuff from TPM..they and Truthout always live blog these roasts..I mean hearings. <p>Hope to be able to watch it, if I get off in time.&nbsp; It's like 7 in the morning our time, I think.&nbsp; Can at least set the VCR.</p> <p>.</p> <p>I'm personally not putting much hope in Goodling's testimony.&nbsp; Bet she suffers from&nbsp;precocious&nbsp;alzheimer's.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92275 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92275 <p>Hope to be able to watch it, if I get off in time.&nbsp; It's like 7 in the morning our time, I think.&nbsp; Can at least set the VCR.</p> <p>.</p> <p>I'm personally not putting much hope in Goodling's testimony.&nbsp; Bet she suffers from&nbsp;precocious&nbsp;alzheimer's.</p> <p>Hardliner, anyway I look at it, the wish for somebody to die is born of hatred, not towards a person's behavior, or a person's ideology, but hatred for the person at the very core of that person's being.&nbsp;</p> <p>Are you saying that in some cases, hatred is justified and that it is productive?&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92278 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92278 <p>Hardliner, anyway I look at it, the wish for somebody to die is born of hatred, not towards a person's behavior, or a person's ideology, but hatred for the person at the very core of that person's being.&nbsp;</p> <p>Are you saying that in some cases, hatred is justified and that it is productive?&nbsp; </p> They usually start around 6 or 6:30am our time random..they have so far anyway..She CAN&quot;T claim she doesn't remember..why else would she of used the 5th then? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92280 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92280 They usually start around 6 or 6:30am our time random..they have so far anyway..She CAN&quot;T claim she doesn't remember..why else would she of used the 5th then? Didn't they give Goodling partial immunity?&nbsp; If so, she's already admitted to having knowledge of illegal acts.&nbsp; If she doesn't sing, she's what's for dinner. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92281 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92281 Didn't they give Goodling partial immunity?&nbsp; If so, she's already admitted to having knowledge of illegal acts.&nbsp; If she doesn't sing, she's what's for dinner. The judge&nbsp; compelled her to testify last week..when he signed the subpoena. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92284 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92284 The judge&nbsp; compelled her to testify last week..when he signed the subpoena. <p>well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James &amp; Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families. </p> <p>Hate: denying civil rights, calling people perverts, diseased, etc etc etc etc..James &amp; Jerry neither are men of god...more like men of power &amp; greed.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92285 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92285 <p>well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James &amp; Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families. </p> <p>Hate: denying civil rights, calling people perverts, diseased, etc etc etc etc..James &amp; Jerry neither are men of god...more like men of power &amp; greed.</p> <p>Subtle question.&nbsp; If she *HAD* plead the Fifth in response to specific questions, and then was granted immunity, and then said she couldn't recall, she'd be what's for breakfast under the butter and marmalade.&nbsp; </p> <p>But picture it:</p> <p>&quot;I can't recall whether I have any memory of that.&quot;</p> <p>&quot;Then why were you going to plead the Fifth?&quot;</p> <p>&quot;Oh, that was about something else, something I was SO SURE you'd ask me, but you never did.&nbsp; I was worried over nothing, ha-ha.&quot;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92286 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92286 <p>Subtle question.&nbsp; If she *HAD* plead the Fifth in response to specific questions, and then was granted immunity, and then said she couldn't recall, she'd be what's for breakfast under the butter and marmalade.&nbsp; </p> <p>But picture it:</p> <p>&quot;I can't recall whether I have any memory of that.&quot;</p> <p>&quot;Then why were you going to plead the Fifth?&quot;</p> <p>&quot;Oh, that was about something else, something I was SO SURE you'd ask me, but you never did.&nbsp; I was worried over nothing, ha-ha.&quot;</p> With her lack of legal experience, she took her attorney's advice. But your right..she didn't technically plead to anything yet, her atty just said she would. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92288 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92288 With her lack of legal experience, she took her attorney's advice. But your right..she didn't technically plead to anything yet, her atty just said she would. <p>If Dobson were stricken and needed CPR...I hope his dog would be the first responder.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nospank.net/dugan.htm">http://www.nospank.net/dugan.htm</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92291 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92291 <p>If Dobson were stricken and needed CPR...I hope his dog would be the first responder.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nospank.net/dugan.htm">http://www.nospank.net/dugan.htm</a></p> <p><em>well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James &amp; Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families.</em> </p> <p><strong>Hate divides.&nbsp; Love, despite ideological differences, unites, and makes a country strong.&nbsp; Hatred on the left fuels hatred on the right and breeds extremism.&nbsp; Hatred on the right has the same effect.&nbsp; </strong></p> <p><strong>Hateful rhetoric from the left breeds,&nbsp;empowers, aids and provides comfort to the Jerry Falwells of the world.&nbsp; </strong></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92292 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92292 <p><em>well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James &amp; Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families.</em> </p> <p><strong>Hate divides.&nbsp; Love, despite ideological differences, unites, and makes a country strong.&nbsp; Hatred on the left fuels hatred on the right and breeds extremism.&nbsp; Hatred on the right has the same effect.&nbsp; </strong></p> <p><strong>Hateful rhetoric from the left breeds,&nbsp;empowers, aids and provides comfort to the Jerry Falwells of the world.&nbsp; </strong></p> When Baghdad fell into US hands..the people danced in the streets..when they hung the man people also danced in the streets. If You were glad that Saddam was mocked profusely and then hung..you can not condemn anyone that is glad to see that seriously digusting Mr. Falwell gone to meet his maker...who was Satan btw. <br /> <br /> spam word: fakie http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92296 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92296 When Baghdad fell into US hands..the people danced in the streets..when they hung the man people also danced in the streets. If You were glad that Saddam was mocked profusely and then hung..you can not condemn anyone that is glad to see that seriously digusting Mr. Falwell gone to meet his maker...who was Satan btw. <br /> <br /> spam word: fakie <p>That's why Dobson, Falwell and their ilk are so scared of love, BLT.&nbsp; That's why they need to channel the concept of &quot;love&quot; into so strict a framework, decide whom others can and cannot marry, whom others can and cannot publicly love.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Does *THEIR* hatred of liberals, gays and the like not divide?&nbsp;&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92297 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92297 <p>That's why Dobson, Falwell and their ilk are so scared of love, BLT.&nbsp; That's why they need to channel the concept of &quot;love&quot; into so strict a framework, decide whom others can and cannot marry, whom others can and cannot publicly love.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Does *THEIR* hatred of liberals, gays and the like not divide?&nbsp;&nbsp; </p> Falwell was the epitome of this from another commenter here: <strong>&quot;Hate divides.&quot; <br /> <br /> That man was a horrid person who wished harm to others..there is NO way that Jesus tolerates someone who preaches that kind of mierda in HIS name. Thats the difference between ol Jerry and the commenters here. None of us are preachers or pastors in a church or to others about the word of &quot;God&quot;...Falwell had the audacity to actually use our Lord and Saviors name to preach hatred and division. <br /> </strong> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92298 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92298 Falwell was the epitome of this from another commenter here: <strong>&quot;Hate divides.&quot; <br /> <br /> That man was a horrid person who wished harm to others..there is NO way that Jesus tolerates someone who preaches that kind of mierda in HIS name. Thats the difference between ol Jerry and the commenters here. None of us are preachers or pastors in a church or to others about the word of &quot;God&quot;...Falwell had the audacity to actually use our Lord and Saviors name to preach hatred and division. <br /> </strong> <p>I was not glad that Saddam was mocked profusely and then hung.&nbsp; I'm glad he was stopped from doing further evil, but I wish he could have been stopped in other ways, like agreeing to comply with the agreements between Iraq and the United Nations.&nbsp; </p> <p>That being said, none of us, if subjected to intense scrutiny, could survive the hypocricy test.&nbsp; We are all hypocrites on some level.&nbsp; We should strive not to be, and we should not give up our ideals simply because we have not always lived up to them.&nbsp; My ideal is a world where left-wingers, right-wingers and moderates all get along.&nbsp; Is it wrong to hold to such an ideal, given, that I, a mere mortal, am not always able to live up to it?&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92301 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92301 <p>I was not glad that Saddam was mocked profusely and then hung.&nbsp; I'm glad he was stopped from doing further evil, but I wish he could have been stopped in other ways, like agreeing to comply with the agreements between Iraq and the United Nations.&nbsp; </p> <p>That being said, none of us, if subjected to intense scrutiny, could survive the hypocricy test.&nbsp; We are all hypocrites on some level.&nbsp; We should strive not to be, and we should not give up our ideals simply because we have not always lived up to them.&nbsp; My ideal is a world where left-wingers, right-wingers and moderates all get along.&nbsp; Is it wrong to hold to such an ideal, given, that I, a mere mortal, am not always able to live up to it?&nbsp; </p> You are mean, another liberal who would deny people like Dobson or Robertson or even Cheney and Bush the Heimlich maneuver if they were choking on their own garbage is criminal. Even horses deserve to be shot to get them out of their misery and they deserve no less.<br /> It hurts me and offends me when men of great stature are not respected no matter how corrupt and stupid they are, it does bot diminish their stature without them where would we be? God, war and many other things would have to take a back set in our lives without them. No, these heroes deserve&nbsp; out praise and allegiance, without them we would be just another empire that will fall by the wayside. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92307 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92307 You are mean, another liberal who would deny people like Dobson or Robertson or even Cheney and Bush the Heimlich maneuver if they were choking on their own garbage is criminal. Even horses deserve to be shot to get them out of their misery and they deserve no less.<br /> It hurts me and offends me when men of great stature are not respected no matter how corrupt and stupid they are, it does bot diminish their stature without them where would we be? God, war and many other things would have to take a back set in our lives without them. No, these heroes deserve&nbsp; out praise and allegiance, without them we would be just another empire that will fall by the wayside. Praise, only if warranted.&nbsp; Hatred, on the other hand,&nbsp;is never warranted, not according to my beliefs.&nbsp; Jesus teaches me to love my enemies.&nbsp; I have failed, on more than one occasion to follow his teachings in this regard, but when I fall, I try to get back up again, and follow the path leading to unity, love, peace, compassion, and understanding.&nbsp; That path is narrow, but there is certainly more room for those who would put their hatred&nbsp;on hold,&nbsp;in the interest of serving our common interest, as a nation--------survival.&nbsp;&nbsp; Hatred will destroy us in the end.&nbsp; It will cause this nation to implode.&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92310 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/sumo211/9384/#c_92310 Praise, only if warranted.&nbsp; Hatred, on the other hand,&nbsp;is never warranted, not according to my beliefs.&nbsp; Jesus teaches me to love my enemies.&nbsp; I have failed, on more than one occasion to follow his teachings in this regard, but when I fall, I try to get back up again, and follow the path leading to unity, love, peace, compassion, and understanding.&nbsp; That path is narrow, but there is certainly more room for those who would put their hatred&nbsp;on hold,&nbsp;in the interest of serving our common interest, as a nation--------survival.&nbsp;&nbsp; Hatred will destroy us in the end.&nbsp; It will cause this nation to implode.&nbsp; <p>BLT, it is not wrong to hope for such an ideal.&nbsp; It *IS* wrong to use such a call for&nbsp;to make all sides&nbsp;abide by a situation forced on one side by the other.&nbsp; It is reminiscent of the character in the old &quot;Ally McBeal&quot; TV show who would be discovered in some abhorrent behavior and then simply wave a hand and say &quot;Bygones,&quot; expecting a fresh start.</p> <p>.</p> <p>I'm not talking about the settling of scores.&nbsp; I'm talking about the righting of wrongs.&nbsp; What Falwell,&nbsp;Dobson and his cohort have helped force upon the nation is *WRONG*.&nbsp; I will not allow it to become the status quo.&nbsp; </p> http://people.ba