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I understand the concerns about Pakistan.  We've been sending them fat checks and really good military hardware for a while now.  Essentially, we own them.  The fact that they are acting the way they are (sheltering Bin Laden, releasing Taliban fighters including those pieces of **** who killed Daniel Pearl) says more about the current conditions of our relationship with them than it does about their character.  They obviously have the goods.  How much would it cost us to get them? As far as idealistic stuff, are you familiar with the Overton window idea?  Basically it says that you should propose nutty stuff so that the compromise is closer to what you want.  The Republican think tanks mastered it and now we've got the President making a "compromise" that still guts Article 3 and suspends haebeus corpus.  Who'd have thought 6 years ago that we'd even be *debating* whether torture was ok?
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