dont forget rumors of Dubya's affair

Or illegally crossing Texas state lines to get an abortion for his underage girlfriend.


 

Were either of those substantiated?  At least the ones I posted were.  As were the ones that Grp originally posted.  If you want to talk rumor..then I can think up all kinds of things

You might also note that I said that was just one hit I found in a rush..I had to leave and had no time to sit and look for links to offset your links so you could find links to offset my links so I could refute yours...   C'mon..are we going to get into that kind of battle again?  Don't tell me that the Democrats don't espouse family values while sleeping around.  They are just as hypocritical when it comes to affiars as anyone else.  Also..none of the items I posted involved local and lower level people... I have no doubt if one wants to dig deep enough you'll find a ton of liberals on the local level who are just as sleazy as the conservatives.

Anti is right, I'll critcize anyone from EITHER party for the kind of behavior they all exhibit.  Anyone who goes into public office should be like Cesaers wife because if they aren't, someone will tell, smell, dig it up, and spread it.

As for Kennedy..I didn't put him on the list.  That was from a website, and I just posted it.  I didn't need to add him for defending his sleazy family member..he did enough to ruin his own credibility all by his little ownself. ....and that wasn't even on the list.

This is off topic but you might make the connection to Kennedy and NCLB.

 

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Nancy, Bush's service during Vietnam wasn't substantiated, but it was still used by his campaign...
posted by NancyII on Jun 4, 2007 at 04:29 PM
Apples and oranges..the list is about sex scandals.  If we're going to bring up everything else..the list will swamp the system.  That's the problem around here.  If you bring something up, the others will jump in and start the "yeah but what about....stuff " and the original subject is lost.
posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 04:39 PM

Ah, but what was he *DOING* while he was supposed to be at drills?  That brings it back on-topic...

posted by NancyII on Jun 4, 2007 at 04:44 PM
ROFL...nice save !   :-)
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Former ACLU chief admits guilt

Friday, June 1, 2007



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Former ACLU chief admits guilt
Sentenced to 8 years for having 'graphic and violent' child porn

Posted: June 1, 2007
5:55 p.m. Eastern

 


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A former executive for the http://www.acluva.org/pages...>American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia has been sentenced to eight years in prison after he admitted having "graphic and violent" child pornography.

The guilty plea was entered in court in Virginia by Charles Rust-Tierney, where he was immediately sentenced, according to http://www.wjla.com/news/st...>a report today from WJLA television.

Rust-Tierney previously had served as the president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU, and admitted his guilt under a plea bargain. He had been in jail since his arrest earlier this year, because two separate judges in pretrial hearings had rejected his request for freedom, describing the pornography as some of the most sickening they ever had encountered.

(Story continues below)

It was Rust-Tierney who, nearly 10 years ago, had argued before the Loudoun County Library Board against any Internet filters on the computers at the public facility.

The library, which had been using filters on its computers, was ordered to change its policy by a federal court.

"The ACLU of Virginia urges the board to carefully consider a new Internet Use Policy that allows for maximum Internet access…," he said at the time.

He encouraged the library board to recognize "that individuals will continue to behave responsibly and appropriately while in the library," so therefore "the default should be maximum, unrestricted access to ... the Internet."

Prosecutors said Rust-Tierney, who also served as a youth league sports coach in the area, actually downloaded the materials on a computer in his son's bedroom at home.

As WND reported, the 51-year-old was arrested in February and was indicted in May on charges of having what a U.S. magistrate described as "the most perverted and nauseating and sickening type of child pornography" she ever had seen.

He was the Virginia ACLU president until 2005 and served on the group's board until the day he was arrested.

Authorities said he used his own credit card and his own e-mail address to access and purchase an estimated $1,000 in graphic and violent child pornography during 2005 and 2006, according to Virginia's North Country Gazette.

Magistrate Theresa Buchanan said the material included an extended video featuring the sexual torture of children, accompanied by a song by the band called Nine Inch Nails.

He faced a maximum sentence of 11 to 14 years on each of two counts, had he not reached a plea agreement.

Court records indicate Rust-Tierney had subscribed to several websites featuring child pornography over a period of years.

The federal indictment alleged he "knowingly received multiple computer files that contained photo and video depictions of minor teenage and prepubescent children engaging in sexually explicit conduct."

An anonymous chat room participant on the cannablog was distressed by the low profile in the national media over the case. When Rust-Tierney's arrest first was announced, authorities didn't even mention either his ACLU or youth league coaching connections.

"This man was the PRESIDENT of the Virginia ACLU and while he was president, he lobbied to keep the Internet available to child pornographers via any port available, and WHILE he was president he was engaged in purchasing and subscribing to child (infant and toddler torture) pornography for his personal and sexual gratification. The ACLU. Pouring money into a machine that victimizes children. For years. And that the media is keeping this out of sight is okay with you? Wow," he said.

Fox News' Bill O'Reilly called it a "horrifying" case. And he noted that the two "biggest left-wing outfits in the country – the New York Times and NBC News – ignored the story entirely." CBS News, CNN and most of the big city liberal newspapers also failed to cover the Rust-Tierney arrest, Fox said.

Several area broadcast stations and newspapers actually started covering the case as it headed towards a conclusion.

"That Mr. Rust-Tierney, a leading proponent of unrestricted access to the Internet, has now been arrested for receiving and possessing graphic child pornography should serve as testimony to the injudicious and baleful outgrowth of the legal challenges launched by the ACLU questioning the constitutionality of important legislation that protects children from Internet exploitation and content harmful to minors," said a statement released by spokeswoman Cris Clapp of Enough is Enough, an organization dedicated to protecting children from the dangers on the Internet.

"When Mr. Rust-Tierney argued before the Loudoun County Library Board that unrestricted access to the resources of the Internet was essential for our children's ability to learn and communicate, and when groups like the ACLU contend that acceptable use policies alone are capable of protecting children online, they fail to acknowledge the tragic and devastating effects to children and families of both intentional and unintentional access to online pornography," the statement said.

The investigation that resulted in Rust-Tierney's arrest was conducted by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, as well as Arlington County police as part of the Northern Virginia and District of Columbia Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.

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posted by antiextremism on Jun 3, 2007 at 10:12 AM
Good. Hang 'im high.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Jun 3, 2007 at 10:22 AM

I agree, the guy's a creep.

Two things, though.

First, I have a major problem with "possession crimes."  By all means, catch and prosecute the people who created the stuff that this guy possessed.  But mere possession -- especially of things no more substantial than electronic images -- should rarely be illegal.  About the only exceptions are national security secrets or weapons of mass destruction.

Second, notice how the bulk of the article is spun for political purposes.  More is being made of alleged "left wing" groups, and more still is being made of the fact that this former ACLU chief opposed censorship.

The real motive of this article is purely political, seeking every possible excuse to rail against freedom and plead for increased government power.

Regrettably, the rotten judgment of this former ACLU chief just gave them a propagandist's best dream.

 

posted by GotREALITY on Jun 3, 2007 at 11:22 AM
True. Many bash the ACLU until their civil rights have been violated. Same with attorneys; we all hate them until we need one.
posted by sagefever on Jun 3, 2007 at 01:26 PM
Hypocrisy is the second worst thing..talking this and implying all of the ACLU or any group for that matter ,is tainted by the actions of one bad man in one state is ..ahem the falicie of this because of this..see I am trying to learn nasty old logic!
posted by GrpThink on Jun 4, 2007 at 07:16 AM
  • Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
  • Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
  • Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
  • Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
  • Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
  • Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
  • Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
  • Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
  • Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
  • Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
  • Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
  • Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
  • Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
  • Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
  • Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
  • Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
  • Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
  • Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
  • Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
  • Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
  • Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
  • Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
  • Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
  • Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
  • Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
  • Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
  • Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
  • Republican and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
  • Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
  • Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
  • Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
  • Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
  • Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
  • Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
  • Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
  • Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
  • Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
  • Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
  • Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
  • Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
  • Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
  • Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
  • Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
  • Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
  • Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
  • Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
  • Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
  • Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
  • Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
  • Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
  • Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
  • Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
  • Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
  • Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
  • Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
  • Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
  • Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
  • Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
  • Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
  • Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
  • Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
  • Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
  • Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
  • Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
  • Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
  • Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
  • Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
  • Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
  • Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 07:19 AM
Thank you, GrpThink.
posted by NancyII on Jun 4, 2007 at 08:04 AM

I didn't go so far as to dig our local and presidents of housing development due to time constraints this morning but here's a few to get us started.  Some minors..some not.  I'd have to dig through local stuff to complete the list.... this was just a quick search.

Information compiled from the Washington Post, “Congressional Sex Scandals in History,” and other sources.

10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.

8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 08:07 AM
Gee, Nancy, I'm glad you got ol' Ted on the heinous crime of testifying under oath in a court of law.  Balances out one of those Republican child-rapists exactly.
posted by GrpThink on Jun 4, 2007 at 08:20 AM

Nancy,

My list is from a long out of date web site. There's at least 20 or more I know of that are not on the list I provided but has been compiled by bloggers (some of them rightwing bloggers who report on their own).

And my list is of child sex crimes, which is the topic of this blog. Would you like me to add sexual harassment  (like Bill O'Reilly's) and rape cases ( like Jim Gibbons) as well?

I highly doubt you'll be able to keep pace.

posted by Hardliner4freedom on Jun 4, 2007 at 08:30 AM

Especially when a couple of the Democratic "scandals" listed are not scandals at all.

I would expect Ted Kennedy, or anyone else, to testify in defense of a family member accused of rape, particularly if he had good reason to believe that the accusation wasn't true.  Nothing scandalous about this, so far.

The Daniel Inouye snippet exonerates itself.  That time period, the 1990s (and 1980s) was a time when sexual harassment claims were made at the least pretext.  Doubts were cast on the accusations, most probably, because the accusations were dubious.

 

posted by mattloch on Jun 4, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Ah, but which party is the self-proclaimed defender of "family values"? Hypocrisy trumps criminal behavior alone.
posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Why, the party of thrice-married Rudy Giuliani, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich...
posted by sfinboston52 on Jun 4, 2007 at 09:56 AM

dont forget rumors of Dubya's affair

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 09:59 AM

The one where he gave his mistress a position as a Secretary? 

 

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:10 AM
Off-topic for the sex blog Amway started, but apparently the DoJ is *FINALLY* going to seek indictments against William Jefferson (the guy with the cash in the freezer.)
posted by antiextremism on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:32 AM

I see a pattern here. No, not that there is a long list of indicted 'family value' republicans being taken to the woodshed. No, the pattern is that when a liberal get's caught red handed, liberal bloggers denounce him. But I haven't seen too many conservatives denounce fellow conservatives, (with the exception of Nancy).

Any sexual predator deserves punishment regardless of party affiliation. I think we can all agree on that.

But what irks liberals is guys like Newt or Rush espousing family values.  Even Hellen Keller can see through those guys. 

posted by GrpThink on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:48 AM

but apparently the DoJ is *FINALLY* going to seek indictments against William Jefferson

It's about time.

It was shameful the way Jefferson was given a committee assignment under this cloud and Pelosi defending it.

She should have started an ethics investigation and drummed him out.

posted by GrpThink on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:49 AM

dont forget rumors of Dubya's affair

Or illegally crossing Texas state lines to get an abortion for his underage girlfriend.

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:58 AM

GrpThink, Pelosi asked Jefferson to step down from Ways&Means, and when he refused he was forced out of that committee assignment.  He has since been re-elected by his constituents, although he had stiff opposition.  The DoJ *ALREADY* had him under investigation.  Remember that he had powerful Republicans essentially defending him prior to Pelosi's election.

.

More background:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com...

posted by sfinboston52 on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:06 AM

Jefferson = cold hard cash new meaning

 

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:07 AM
But he'd have trouble hiring a competent lawyer with his assets frozen like that...
posted by GrpThink on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:18 AM

and when he refused he was forced out of that committee assignment

I was referring to Pelosi appointing Jefferson to the Homeland Security committee in February. Pelosi defending the appointment.

posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:22 AM

What damage can he do there, GrpThink?  Now, at Ways&Means he had a finger in the cookie jar.  I imagine Homeland Security was due to the Katrina connection.

.

He was re-elected (albeit with a struggle) and hadn't been indicted.  I suspect that Pelosi didn't want him there any more than I do.

posted by mattloch on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:36 AM
About time. I'll be happy to see what Justice found on him. This is long overdue.
posted by antiextremism on Jun 4, 2007 at 02:21 PM
That was good Random. He should have unplugged the freeze in order  for him to liquify those assets.
posted by randomfactor on Jun 4, 2007 at 02:27 PM
That would have enabled him to pool his assets with others similarly accused.  I assume he'll be freon bail until the trial...
posted by NancyII on Jun 4, 2007 at 04:03 PM