Well, I guess we all know of at least ONE Democrat who will be voting for McCain.......................lol

Sigh. I suppose that when McCain picks his VP, we can pull out all the bad quotes they said about him.

Hey Supe. You never accepted the 15 dollar bet. Are you in?

Poor Hillary. I still think her first mistake was not dumping Bill after the Monica affair. How can she get on a stage and say she's her own woman with sex-predator Bill by her side? That's the first cow pattie she stepped into as far as her credibility was concerned.

Oh yeah Im in, I thought the bet changed to the person whose candidate loses the election by EC had to post on the blog the better candidate won and fully support that guy.

We can do the money thing too if you want, Im in,

RF agreed I think, plus I think we are doing the cash too

Poor Hillary. I still think her first mistake was not dumping Bill

She acted as a typical Republan wife would have.  Her *FIRST* mistake was in not dumping her ineffective campaign strategists.  They cost her the nomination.

RF agreed I think, plus I think we are doing the cash too

$100 was the wager.

A target rich environment will be Romney. (in the way Biden was to Obama)

This is one reason I was suggesting someone not in the primaries or Palin or another woman.

Bill is bitter because, as happens to a lot of Libs who champion the  "black cause", when they find out what the bruthus really think of them they are devastated. They fancy themselves as being  "one of the boys" but they aren't and never will be. Why they would ever even think this is beyond me, but they do.

I don't think Bill will ever get over no longer being considered an  "honorary bruthuh".....

But watch Hill when she speaks -- she'll be fawning over Obama like he's the second coming...........

I take it that using campaign rhetoric as the measure, McCain won't be picking Romney for VP....

“We’re in a different place on immigration; we’re in a different place on campaign reform; we’re in a different place on same–sex marriage; we’re in a different place on the president’s policy on interrogation of detainees." Romney on McCain.

Other Republican quotes on McCain...

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine.  He is erratic.  He is hotheaded.  He loses his temper and he worries me."

Senator Thad Cochran, R-MS

"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."

Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

"If either [John McCain or Mike Huckabee] gets the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican Party, it's going to change it forever, be the end of it."

Conservative talk show host and author Rush Limbaugh

"There's nothing redeeming about John McCain...he's a hypocrite."

Former House GOP Whip Tom DeLay

"He is a vicious person.  Nearly all the Republican Senators endorsed Bush because they knew McCain from serving with him in the Senate.  They so disliked him that they wouldn't support him.  They have been on the hard end of his behavior."

Former Representative Charles LeBoutillier, R-NY

"John was very rough in the sandbox.  Everybody has a McCain story.  If you work in the Senate for a while, you have a McCain story.  He hasn't built up a lot of goodwill." Former Senator Rick Santorum, R-PA

"There would be a lot of people who would have to recalibrate their attitudes toward John."

Senator Bob Bennett, R-UT

"For all his supposed, newfound enlightenment about what most Americans want - protection against invasion, commitment to the rule of law, meaningful employer sanctions, an end to sanctuary cities, enforcement-by-attrition plus deportation reform, and an end to special illegal alien benefits that invite more law-breaking-The Maverick remains a Geraldo Rivera Republican. Like the ethnocentric cable TV host who can't string a sentence about immigration together without drowning in emotional demagoguery, McCain naturally resorts to open-borders platitudes when pressed for enforcement specifics...McCain has learned nothing."

Michelle Malkin, conservative columnist and author

"His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger.  In my mind, that should disqualify him." 

Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NH

"I heard about his temper more from others.  According to them, he really unleashed on some of them, and they couldn't figure out why...It happened enough that it was affecting his credibility with some people."

Grant Woods, McCain's former Chief of Staff, former AG of Arizona, and current McCain staffer

An "embarrassment to the party."

Arizona GOP State Senator Susan Johnson

"What happens if he gets angry in crisis in the presidency?  It's difficult enough to be a negotiator, but it's almost impossible when you're the type of guy who's so angry at anybody who doesn't do what he wants.  It's the president's job to negotiate and stay calm.  I just don't see that he has that quality."

Former Arizona GOP Chairman John Hinz

"No dissent, no opinion to the contrary- however reasonable- will be entertained.  Hardheaded is one way to say it.  Arrogant is another way to say it.  Hubristic is another way to say it.  Too proud for his own good is another way to say it.  It's a quality about him that disturbs me."

Col. Larry Wilkerson, US Army (ret.) and former chief aide to Colin Powell

"He is the anti-conservative.  He instinctively sides against conservatives and relishes poking them in the eye."

Conservative talk show host and author David Limbaugh

"It just seems like everything we did, John was someplace else...In my mind, he is not [a conservative]."

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-IL

"I think it's his style as much as much as the positions he takes...I think it's his attitude that it's his way or the highway."

Former Senator Tim Hutchinson, R-AR

"I don't like McCain.  I don't like him at all."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-CO

McCain "has a legendary temper and often uses foul and obscene language."

Focus on Family Founder James Dobson

"John's a person I've had a lot of disagreements with, but you've got to have a lot of respect for him...I'm not speaking as if I'm a born again supporter of John McCain, I'm just trying to express it the way that I see him."

Senator Charles Grassley, R-IA

"What has struck me about McCain is that everybody underestimated the ability of his advisers and him to hypnotize the national media, because most of us in the media in Arizona thought of him as a guy who had a terrible temper, occasionally had a foul mouth, a guy who whined and pouted unless he got his way. McCain has a temper that is bombastic, volatile, and purple-faced. Sometimes he gets out of control. Do you want somebody sitting in the White House with that kind of temper?"

Pat Murphy, former editor of the Arizona Republic, and a former friend of McCain

"John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism, and youth.  Like McCain, pollsters assured us that Dole was the most electable Republican.  Unlike McCain, Dole didn't lie all the time while claiming to engage in ‘straight talk.'"

Ann Coulter, conservative columnist and author

"Is it possible that John McCain thinks you have too much freedom? ... I gotta tell you, I don't know what's happening to John McCain."

Wayne LaPierre, CEO and Executive VP of the National Rifle Association
 

And of course, Rush Limbaugh hates McCain. So does Hannity and Gingrich and Ingraham. Even Coulter said she'd vote for Hillary over McCain

But will they vote for Obama?

We can do it anyway you want Supe. 15 bucks to charity, 15 bucks to the opposing party, or whatever. I'll give you the option. We can even have a third party hold the money, whoever you want. It's just a little gentlemen's wager.

That's right Nancy. And will the Clintons vote for McCain? Doubt it. In fact, would you expect anything but a glorified speech from the silver tongued Clinton on the virtues of Obama at the Democratic convention?  I mean, there could be an ambassadorship in it for him. LOL

It's just politics as usual. And Supe, I trust Nancy to hold my dough, how about you?

Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall of the Clintons voting booth?

still voting for the obama,  mccain is to old to party

Since when did BS care what Bill Clinton had to say?

I guess Obama isn't liberal enough.

 I mean, there could be an ambassadorship in it for him. LOL

He's holding out for SCOTUS.  I think Bill would do well there.

Yes I would Nancy! LOL

msjenny has her priorities right, but my guess is that McCain has done a helluva lot more partying than Obama ever did.

Of course, that was during the Spanish American War,  but hey, once a partyer....

That Robe might make getting hummers a little more discreet Random.

Hey BS...you aren't perchance affiliated with those two would-be assassins they arrested in Denver yesterday, are you?

Looks like the concern troll is at it again. Do you have any links to this supposed quote from Bill Clinton or should we just take your word that it happened?

Before this campaign is all over, there will be many Freudian slips, back-handed compliments and passive aggressive behaviors directed at Obama, and delivered by the Clintons, the couple who are now in the once unthinkable position of having to kiss the butt they'd rather kick.  Of course Bill was ambivalent about Hillary winning, but he sure didn't want Obama taking it from her either. 

Long-distance psychiatry is the best kind.

I'm guessin' McCain is gonna have a lot more 'slips' than Billy Boy.

 Long-distance psychiatry is the best kind.

That sounds like something Tom Cruise would say.  :)

I'm guessin' McCain is gonna have a lot more 'slips' than Billy Boy.

That may be the case, but he's not been placed in the position, at this point, of having to kiss butt he'd rather kick in the name of party unity.  Billy Boy is deeply conflicted, and his slips will reveal just how conflicted he is.   He was initially torn between wanting his wife to win, and not wanting her wearing the pants in the White House.  Now he's torn between lashing out at someone at the risk of being perceived as a poor loser and a party unity destroyer. 

ah come on guys..not only did they beat the crap outta Hillary but Michelle nixed her as VP..Im sure they all love each other to death and are firm supporters of Yobamas little clan..I mean wouldnt you be??

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Close-in supporters of Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign are convinced he never will offer the vice presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Clinton for one overriding reason: Michelle Obama.

The Democratic front-runner's wife did not comment on other rival candidates for the party's nomination, but she has been sniping at Clinton since last summer. According to Obama sources, those public utterances do not reveal the extent of her hostility.

And there will be payback.  We just don't quite know what that payback is going to look like right now.  The Clintons will find a a way to get even.  They always have.  They always will. 

I've never been a fan of either of the Clintons, but I will say this about Bill.   He's always had a knack for saying things without really saying things.  The case that Mitt has brought up here is a prime example. 

Oh, I get it, this is the creative writing 101 blog. Nice works of fiction there guys.

Well, the only thing I can take out of this is that superman is in agreement with Bill Clinton.

Bill may have major characterological issues, but he's also brilliant.  He puts something out there, and then he adds something to his statement that renders the whole thing null and void.  But he's already said it, so the damage has already been done. 

Obama may well have offered the VP slot to Senator Clinton or worked out an arrangement she liked better. 

But he's better off with her in the Senate.  She's a poor fit for the kind of campaign he's running.  Not a bad candidate, certainly a good choice for POTUS, but with so many on the right who hate her guts (despite their mealy-mouthed "she wuz robbed" talking points) she doubles the target area, so to speak.

McCain will win.

If you give two Democrats a donkey suit, they will fight and argue over who gets to play the head until they finally rip the suit.

That's why McCain will win.

And DOG help this country if the crook does win. But I don't think he will.

 How can she get on a stage and say she's her own woman with sex-predator Bill by her side? That's the first cow pattie she stepped into as far as her credibility was concerned.

I have a lot more respect for someone who's willing to do everything she can to keep her marriage.

We can't say the same about McCain.  Ironic, isn't it?

If you give two Democrats a donkey suit, they will fight and argue over who gets to play the head until they finally rip the suit.

And if you give two Republicans an elephant suit, they'll fight over the back end--each offering a reacharound to sweeten the deal.

She didn't stay with Bill to save her mariage.  She did it to save both their political careers.

As for her relationship with Obama.  What's the old saying?  Be careful whose feet you step on, they may be attached to the butt you have to kiss tomorrow.

hehehe..gotta admit RF..that was almost clever..cept it reads kind of confusing..if someone is offering a reach around..wouldnt that be coming from the front (trunk) and not the tail?? why would they be fighting for the backside? It doesnt make sense

Nancy

You can't second guess someone else's marriage.  We don't know why she stayed with Bill.  Maybe it was for political gain, may it was for Chelsea, maybe she stayed because she loves him.  Only she has the answer to that.

I've seen marriages before that I was sure would and should break up.  Even though it was strained the marriage struggled on.  The couples remained together until the marriages were ended by death.

On the other hand, don't agree with the cynics that  John McCain married Cindy McCain for her money either. 

  Maybe I'm just a romantic.   It must be all those Jane Austin books, huh?

You're right Audrey.  I really should have said "in my opinion" based on my own personal ethics.  I could never stay with a man who had publicly humiliated me time and again...not even for the child.   In fact, it wouldn't have had to be public as theirs was.  On the other hand, I've known women who stayed with the hubby right up until their deaths when it was well known that the men were cheaters. 

I'm a funny duck that way.  Once my trust has been broken I never fully trust that person again.  My theory is that once that cheating line is crossed, what would stop him from doing it again?  So, based on that, the only reason in my mind for staying would be financial or, in a politicians world, a career.

With that in mind, that exxplains why I made that observation.

I forgot to comment on the McCain marriage.  I agree with you that the McCain marriage probably wasn't for money since she made him sign a prenup.  My guess is, as I've seen in our "normal" life, he was middle aged, she was young, smart,  and pretty.  The lifestyle was just the icing on the cake.  He was already living a pretty glamorous lifestyle himself which probably drew her to him as well.   As hard as it is for some to believe, rich people can fall in love too.

All guesswork...again, my opinion.

And, I share that Romanticism with you.  Seems no matter how old I get I've kept hoping for Prince Charming.  Instead, I just found a lot of toads. 

Been there done that,the toads ,the cheatin,the lost trailer the truck,the twister and the dog...sometimes love works miracles. Just from my experience,the first time I said those words I did not mean them. The second time~"I do" sliped past my lips,I did mean them. It's been nasty,glorious and everything in between.I can not judge anyones love.

Nancy

Who needs a prince charming when they have a four year old who say's "I wuv you Gamma"  as he lays his head on your shoulder.   

My grandson loves Sleeping Beauty (he said it's one of his favorite movies).   But he gets mad if you suggest that someday he will waltz with a princess like Aurora.   I guess he only has eyes for his Mama and Grandma at this age.  My good fortune. 

I stuttered.    Too early for typiinngg.   :-)  Got a call that woke me up at 6:30 but when I answered, no one was there.  Not like a person breathing (heavy would have been acceptable) or a dead line and no dial tone.  Very weird.

Somebody, somewhere trying to tell me to get UP ya think?

BTW Nancy

You never know when the next toad might be turn out to be a prince.   Hang in there.  You deserve the best.

Re:  Call in night

As long as he didn't call you by name and tell you what a bitch you are, you should be OK.  ; )

Apologies to BS for getting off topic.

Lucky in life, unlucky in love.  (the romantic kind)  That would be me.  I've been so lucky with my two kids, 5 grandkids, and now two great grandsons.  I've taken on the job of babysitting two days a week for the 3 1/2 month old and he is such a joy.  He laughs at ALL my jokes and doesn't cry when I sing to him.  It doesn't get any better than that.  The fabulous men in my life came in the form of Mark, Blaine, Aidan, and Logan.  The girls, Debbie, Cassie, Katie, Camilla and Ariel were icing on my cake.

I know what you mean about those special hugs.

My apologies for getting off topic too.  Somehow this always seems to happen.  But at least it was friendly talk...lol.  That has to count for something.

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I think the Clinton's have a marriage of convenience..I read some where that besides Willy..Hillary has a roving eye for the female gender... So it wouldn't be a big thing to look the other way if Billy wanted to step out for a weekend rendezvous..he just finally got caught by a big mouth looking to make a few bucks on the side..

The vast majority of politicians are some kinky arrogant folks..comes with the territory..all that public attention has to bring some wild party's ...loaded with sex starved groupies..