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Brothers' attorneys face contempt hearing Judge: Brothers deserves to die Jury recommends Brothers should receive the death penalty VERDICT IN DEATH PENALTY No Verdict This Week Jury begins deliberations in Brothers penalty phase Defense attorney finishes closing argument Defense continues closing argument Defense attorney begins his closing argument Prosecutor finishes closing argument February 07 March 07 April 07 May 07 June 07 July 07 August 07 September 07 October 07 November 07 December 07 January 08 February 08 March 08 April 08 May 08 June 08 July 08
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Jury recommends Brothers should receive the death penalty
A jury decided Tuesday that Vincent Brothers should receive the death penalty for killing his three children, his wife and his mother in law.
The jury deliberated for 6 hours over three days. They deliberated for about 30 minutes this morning. The judge will have to confirm the sentence. Brothers was found guilty of the five murders on May 15. The judge will review the jury's recommendation on Sept. 27. 283 comments from 54 users
posted by
randomfactor
on May 29, 2007 at 03:02 PM
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:03 PM
Actually you don't know much about anything, mi cholito tapado.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:03 PM
I'm not in Kern and don't know much about the Sons case Oh, ok....so you are NOT all knowing? posted by
Roselady
on May 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM
It's over enough that, until appeal starts, all this squawking and yipping and yelling can stop. posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Randomfactor, Nothing is "inevitable" don't act so naive. First off appeals take time to file and then they have to be accepted and heard. Even if it is accepted and heard it does not mean that the original verdict will be overturned. One thing is for sure, this case is going to be around for a long time.
posted by
randomfactor
on May 29, 2007 at 03:24 PM
posted by
Roselady
on May 29, 2007 at 03:26 PM
nobody ever listens to me......
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:26 PM
As for "prison justice": Aren't death row inmates isolated so that no one can hurt them? posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:28 PM
random, He'll do better in a re-trial: He learned to not take the stand, and he probably won't tell the same lie about the accident. I wonder about his brother, Troy. I wonder if he'll still be missing by that time. posted by
LadyDove
on May 29, 2007 at 03:36 PM
The sentence is an appropriate one. It's unfortunate that some use such a tragedy to yell their racism. If the jury had voted not guilty, or life, the same people would yell their racism by claiming that the jury had discounted the value of the victims because they were Black. It's a no win situation with such folks. posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:51 PM
How wrong you are!
posted by
Perezoso8
on May 29, 2007 at 03:54 PM
he probably won't tell the same lie about the accident
That's right: Brothers will stick to his other Big Lie: that he's innocent. Buh bye, perp
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 03:57 PM
I went golfing this morning, so I didn't see the verdict until this afternoon. I wrote a blog entry yesterday saying it would happen today. That was a no brainer. And after the transcript was released today regarding the dismissed juror, I see my post just after it happened was correct. I have good sources. I just watched the video of Vincent's mother and family, along with Wesley Crawford outside the courthouse this morning. Unbelievable. I recall back in the mid-80's when I sent Wesley to prison for possessing crack cocaine. But his last name was Clawford then. Before he became Wesley Mohamaad, and now Crawford. And I predicted a few weeks ago that Ed Jagels will not complete his term in office, and Lisa Green will be his replacement until the next election is held. Mark my words. Good job Lisa, and rot in HELL Vincent!! posted by
meluvshoes
on May 29, 2007 at 03:59 PM
that isnt true about the last execution in CA being in 2002. Didnt they just recently put to death the founder of the Crips (you know the guy that was nominated for a peace prize). Oh, I think his name was Stanley or something.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 04:01 PM
So this morning Vincent had his leg chains on only one leg, and 3 makeshift handcuff keys hidden in his 'fro? To bad he would not have gotten loose and bolted out the door. If that would have been the case, the headlines for today would have read, "Convicted murderer shot and killed fleeing courthouse after being sentenced to death". That would have been cool!!!
posted by
meluvshoes
on May 29, 2007 at 04:03 PM
Stanley Williams (the founder of the Crips, and nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize) was put to death via lethal injection Dec. 2005.
posted by
BrothersTrial
on May 29, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Rie,
Sorry, I didn't realize I was signed on as BrothersTrial. This is Steve E. Swenson making these comments posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 04:28 PM
OH MY GOD, what am I going to blog about now that this trial is over? "sigh".....
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 04:32 PM
brotherstrial, nice unbiased reporting on your part (~*heavy sarcasm*~) posted by
Rie
on May 29, 2007 at 04:36 PM
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:05 PM
I was not surprised by the two Klan women jurors who made the video after the trial's end. It was obvious from these bible thumping Ridgecrest babes that they emphasized Morality, not evidence as in arriving to their guilty verdict.
They convicted Brothers of immorality not murder, but than we all knew that.Brothers was convicted of womanizing and being a less efficient liar than Green, but as to actual murder evidence, not needed this is a black man, they are White women and this is Kern County. Life as it should be, the Black juror should never have removed the forewoman's hood. posted by
Perezoso8
on May 29, 2007 at 05:11 PM
Worse than any supposed "klan" jurors are the crips who would defend a mass murderer. buh bye Vincey. posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:12 PM
Anon at 5:05, you are so pathetic. If there had been a video of Vincent killing his family, you would have accussed "whitey" of morphing him into the pic. I REALLY despise people like you. So, so, ignorant!!!!
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:14 PM
If, if if, that is what this case was all about! Thanks
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:18 PM
5:05, it looks like you have an agenda. He is innocent because he is black. Black is innocent because black was treated horribly in the past.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:24 PM
In Brothers testified about Child Support: posted Monday April 30, 2007 at 02:17p.m.; Is there a mistake in the 1st sentence? Wasn't "Saturday" July 5? When was this testimony given? What was the answer to the last question? This Heading says that Brothers said he took a cellular phone with him to Elizabeth City, North Carolina. He said he had the wrong charges and it was not taking the adequate charge. He realized he got the wrong charge when he returned to Bakersfield on Friday with Curtis Floyd. (Didn't he leave for Elizabeth City, North Carolina on the 8th of July 2003)? In: Brothers discussed crash in Ohio - posted Tuesday April 24, 2007 at 03:41 p.m. (In April archives), after Vincent Brothers left the house on Sunday July 6, 2003, he saw the rental car in front of Melvin Brother's house. He called the wrong # first calling the principal. The battery on his cell phone, he had the wrong charger so it wouldn't charge up all the way. In this heading, he said he went window shopping and got pizza, went to Dayton, Ohio where his brother told him there were housing tracks. (Same day bicycle incident occurred). He had said in his testimony, Brothers continues his testimony - posted Tuesday 04-24-07 at 02:59 p.m. (In the last sentence) "The rental car was there, he thought Melvin would take it. In this heading, he said he got up at 5:00 a.m. (which would have been Saturday, July 5, 2003 and wanted to go to a basketball game in Indiana. He cleaned up and left Melvin's house. It was just getting light outside. That morning he saw Troy, he was getting ready to get in the rental car. Troy asked him where he was going and asked if he could go along. In the heading: Brothers testified about Child Support. - posted Monday April 30, 2007 at 02:17 p.m. It says Brother said he left between 8 & 8:30 on Sunday to go to Chicago. He said it was more than 5 hours. He had to stop for gas more than once on his way through indiana, Missouri, and St. Louis. Again, when was this testimony given? The contents of this heading are unclear, seem to be misleading, inaccurate as far as Saturday's date. Was this an actual testimony or a summary of his testimony?
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:25 PM
Actually no, he is guilty, the Klan has spoken and In Kern, that is law!!
But of course we all knew that, he is Black. posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:32 PM
No, he is "light skindid"....not even close to black.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:35 PM
He is darker than you or any of the Klan gals on the jury, if you are from the South, don't take a genetic test sweetie.
posted by
Perezoso8
on May 29, 2007 at 05:41 PM
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:47 PM
Well, there's a point of interest. He has blue eyes, I believe. His race is, then, undoubtedly mixed. Perhaps if we accept that his white genes did the killing, those who scream racist can accept the evidence. Which of his races planned his failed escape? posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:49 PM
Hi: I’m a first time poster here, found this by accident and being a long time resident of message boards and Bakersfield, thought I’d drop in my 2 cents worth in just for kicks. The most tragic thing that I see generated here is the hatred and judgment, produced and passed by normally good Christian people. The same as by any other high profile murder case, bombing, etc. If one is to look to the bible for answers, Jesus himself said “Judge, as you would like to be judged” basically because one never knows what brought a man or woman to do what he or she does. Going back a few years I remember a man, a mass murderer, named Gary Gilmore. This man ruthlessly killed a whole grip of people and was by his own request sentenced to death by a firing squad. 8:00 am, January 17, 1977, volunteers manned the firing squad and I remember at the time I too made comment “ask me, I’ll do it” Later I read that Gary’s mother, a very Christian lady, claimed that when Gary was a baby she had once called a priest or minister for the child because she saw demons hovering above his crib. What a thought Now lets look to the bible. Somewhere in those pages is the story of Job. To make things kind of simple, he was kind of a regular guy, a bit well to do. Respected in his community. Family, kids, friends, sheep, cows, whatever. Now it seems like God said something like “My servant Job, kool kind of guy, I like him” Ok it’s not a direct quote but it gets the point across. Anyway, the evil one approached God and said to Him “Ya, Kool Guy, That’s cause you give him every thing there stinken is. Mess him around a bit and I bet he’ll curse you.” Catch the drift. God: “Kool Christians I have here, Forgiving, sharing, nice to one another, they say hi” Satin: “Forgiving, I bet if they had a guy that killed a grip of people in there midst they wouldn’t be so forgiving and Nice Wouldn’t say hi either. Wait until they disagree.” Good morning Gary, You’ve just been born. Not saying that that’s the way it is or was, but maybe it’s the way it could have been. I just can’t call it. Now what’s this about judge, as you would like to be judged. Yours, Lets call me Chuck I don't like anonymous posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:51 PM
I doubt that they will defend him, they know that he was fairly convicted and in fact they know that the Klan momma from Ridgecrest was fair, she knows Black people, after all one cleaned her pool in Ridgecrest a few years ago. No they wouldn't dare defend him, they know he is toast and if they don't want to be the other piece of toast, they can't be ID ed, and that in Bakersfield fatal whether they commit any crime or not, and they will recive a white jury.
posted by
OKIEDOKIESTROKIE
on May 29, 2007 at 05:53 PM
I believe Justice was served! But unfortunatly he wont be executed. he will die of old age before that is done! its too bad his wife and children and mother inlaw couldnt of died of old age
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Rie, As a "friend" of Brothers you didn't pay real close attention to the case. Both pros. and defense calculations showed Brothers could have made the whole trip at an average of 70 mph and still have something like 14 hours to sleep and whatever. It was a brand new car basically. I'm sure the car's manufacturer will say the car can run from Ohio to California and back . There is no car on the market that could not make the trip. Get real. Stop believing in fantasies. On the trip the issue was the time of death. If they were not killed on Sunday then the time Brothers would have to drive is much faster to get back to Ohio. The defense had a lot of "experts." One said he could not rule out robbery even thought there was money on a table and nothing was taken. The jury weighted that fact against the possibility of a "staged" robbery and dismissed the defense's expert. Several defense experts were dismissed by the jury though apparently not by you. IMHO they got the right person. Brothers put up no real defense and just spun his wheels. People complain about the amount of time the jury took to make its decision, but I think they took too long. You know, during the trial, the only people who said they saw Brothers during the time of the murders were the witnesses in Bakersfield. He didn't produce one person to confirm his alibi. Not even his own brother or the frat brother he said he met. And of course theres the accident in Ohio. Brother's defense was a joke. He's where he belongs- on death row. posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Welcome to Christianity's la la land where hypocrisy reigns and there is not a hanging we would like to skip.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:54 PM
That jury was selected by two sides.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 05:57 PM
Wrong, three sides and the judge, the third side, made sure he culled reasonable doubt, you can't trust Black jurors you know.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 06:03 PM
I think that huge chip on your shoulder is obstructing your view.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 06:05 PM
No, no cowboy that cow chip on your shoulder has you in a trance, but than the is common, right Ridgecrest, buddy.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 06:10 PM
That was a silly answer. It has nothing to do with anything. You made up a scenerio about who I am just so you could make bigoted claims about me. Silly fellow. None of it's true; but it made you feel big and in charge and as though you could "answer" me.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 06:11 PM
Well ta ta, later my good neighbor is having fun with his torch cross. we need it for the Brothers conviction celebration. See you all there, you here?
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Rie You say he was a wonderful administrator but you ignore tha fact that he was a terrible father and husband. His own daughter, his only surviving child hates him. His surviving ex-wife said he closed both her eyes with his punches. He slept with a lot of his subordiantes and even some of his superiors. Am I missing the part where this is a wonderful guy. Now all that doesn't make him a murderer- the facts of the case make him a murderer. But these facts hardly make him a wonderful guy. Could it be he had a professional image and a personal life that involved two very different Vincent Brothers? You saw what he wanted you to see- be glad you never saw the side his wives saw. Remember, Joannie told her best friend Vincent was "crazy" and she feared for her life. I bet she knew her husband a little better than you did and she didn't say he was "wonderful." posted by
lovingman1961
on May 29, 2007 at 06:36 PM
Though the justice system has seemed to work out for the best where Vincent Brothers is concerned. That doesn't mean that the 'justice system' doesn't need fixing itself. For though it takes an extremely wicked and evil man to do what Vincent Brothers has now been convicted of, (with the cold-blooded killing of three innocent and helpless children, their mother and grandmother) It takes an equally wicked and evil justice system to have to debate whether a crime so heinous as this is deserving of the death penalty or not. Was the justice system fair and did it work for the best? Yes...THIS TIME...however as the old addage goes..."Even a broken clock is right twice a day" & nbsp; &n bsp; &nb sp; &nbs p;   ; & nbsp; &n bsp; &nb sp; &nbs p; - Kenneth Hernandez, Bakersfield posted by
lovingman1961
on May 29, 2007 at 07:09 PM
Though the justice system has seemed to work out for the best where Vincent Brothers is concerned, that doesn't mean that the 'justice system' doesn't need fixing itself. For though it takes an extremely wicked and evil man to do what Vincent Brothers has now been convicted of, (with the cold-blooded killing of three innocent and helpless children, their mother and grandmother) It takes an equally wicked and evil justice system to have to debate whether a crime so heinous as this is deserving of the death penalty or not. Was the justice system fair and did it work for the best? Yes...THIS TIME...however as the old addage goes..."Even a broken clock is right twice a day!" To quote well-known Pastor and public speaker Bob Enyart out of Denver Colorado, "It used to be a Justice System, now it's just a system"! & nbsp; &n bsp; &nb sp; &nbs p;   ; Kenny Hernandez - Bakersfield, Ca.
posted by
lovingman1961
on May 29, 2007 at 07:12 PM
Though the justice system has seemed to work out for the best where Vincent Brothers is concerned, that doesn't mean that the 'justice system' doesn't need fixing itself. For though it takes an extremely wicked and evil man to do what Vincent Brothers has now been convicted of, (with the cold-blooded killing of three innocent and helpless children, their mother and grandmother) It takes an equally wicked and evil justice system to have to debate whether a crime so heinous as this is deserving of the death penalty or not. Was the justice system fair and did it work for the best? Yes...THIS TIME...however as the old addage goes..."Even a broken clock is right twice a day!" To quote well-known Pastor and public speaker Bob Enyart out of Denver Colorado, "It used to be a Justice System, now it's just a system"! & nbsp; &n bsp; &nb sp; &nbs p;   ; Kenny Hernandez - Bakersfield, Ca.
posted by
anonymous
on May 29, 2007 at 07:35 PM
HE IS A DEAD MAN ALREADY - CONS HATE KID KILLERS. THIS PIECE OF CRAP WILL DIE AT THE HANDS OF SOME OTHER TWISTED INMATE.
posted by
steveeswenson
on May 29, 2007 at 07:39 PM
You posters who believe this verdict is racist and not based on evidence have your heads in the sand. Jurors in this case and others in this county take their oath very seriously. I have covered courts for more than 25 years here and I have yet to see a case where jurors rendered a guilty verdict which was not supported by the evidence. What I have seen are jurors who vote not guilty for invalid reasons, usually on 11-1 votes. Furthermore, jurors identify with defendants who have solid work backgrounds such as Brothers. It takes compelling evidence to render a verdict jurors know will seriously harm someone who was a productive citizen. The posters who make these assertions -- all anonymous on this blog -- are ignorant , have no facts to back up their assertions and don't have the fortitude to put a name with their beliefs. So knock it off. You are betraying your own prejudices, not those of anyone else. posted by
OldBlue56
on May 29, 2007 at 08:04 PM
posted by
Christopherv
on May 29, 2007 at 08:19 PM
This is out of control and should be monitored far better. A whole lot of anonymous swagger - way out of line. Who wouldn't duck out after being called so many names by such ignoramosis (so shoot for not being able to spell.) Ladysandee had an opinion. An opinion, btw, that outside of this blog is shared by nearly 80% of Californian respondants. If that bothers you so much there are 39 other Counties you could move to anytime. The fact that you haven't been able to make enough of yourselves to afford to live where you'd seemingly prefer, doesn't mean we have to be glad to have you here. Our readers recommend: |