Hi:

I’m a first time poster here, found this by accident and being a long time resident of  message boards and Bakersfield, thought I’d drop in my 2 cents worth in just for kicks.

The most tragic thing that I see generated here is the hatred and judgment, produced and passed by normally good Christian people. The same as by any other high profile murder case, bombing, etc.

If one is to look to the bible for answers, Jesus himself said “Judge, as you would like to be judged” basically because one never knows what brought a man or woman to do what he or she does.

Going back a few years I remember a man, a mass murderer, named Gary Gilmore. This man ruthlessly killed a whole grip of people and was by his own request sentenced to death by a firing squad. 8:00 am, January 17, 1977, volunteers manned the firing squad and I remember at the time I too made comment “ask me, I’ll do it”

Later I read that Gary’s mother, a very Christian lady, claimed that when Gary was a baby she had once called a priest or minister for the child because she saw demons hovering above his crib.

What a thought

Now lets look to the bible. Somewhere in those pages is the story of Job. To make things kind of simple, he was kind of a regular guy, a bit well to do. Respected in his community. Family, kids, friends, sheep, cows, whatever.

Now it seems like God said something like “My servant Job, kool kind of guy, I like him” Ok it’s not a direct quote but it gets the point across. Anyway, the evil one approached God and said to Him “Ya, Kool Guy, That’s cause you give him every thing there stinken is. Mess him around a bit and I bet he’ll curse you.”

Catch the drift.

God: “Kool Christians I have here, Forgiving, sharing, nice to one another, they say hi”

Satin: “Forgiving, I bet if they had a guy that killed a grip of people in there midst they wouldn’t be so forgiving and Nice Wouldn’t say hi either. Wait until they disagree.”

Good morning Gary, You’ve just been born.

Not saying that that’s the way it is or was, but maybe it’s the way it could have been. I just can’t call it.

Now what’s this about judge, as you would like to be judged.
And maybe the most merciful thing for Gary was to send him back to his maker after a life of torment.

Yours,

Lets call me Chuck

I don't like anonymous

Well, there's a point of interest.  He has blue eyes, I believe.  His race is, then, undoubtedly mixed.  Perhaps if we accept that his white genes did the killing, those who scream racist can accept the evidence.  Which of his races planned his failed escape?

5:05, it looks like you have an agenda.  He is innocent because he is black.  Black is innocent because black was treated horribly in the past. 

Worse than any supposed "klan" jurors are the crips who would defend a mass murderer.

buh bye Vincey.

brotherstrial,

nice unbiased reporting on your part (~*heavy sarcasm*~)

Rie,
   My guess is you did not follow the evidence.
   At a minimum, the testimony was Vincent was not in Ohio for three critical days even according to his own testimony, and the only person in his family who he claimed to be with was Troy, who came to court, but fled in disobedience to a subpoena.
   So Vincent is either very rude not to tell the family he was staying with where he was going, or he had a good reason for not telling them. The jury found the latter.
   Plus the bugs on the rental car that showed he went out west.
   Plus lots more.
   Stay tuned. This case and what happened in it will be more interesting in coming weeks.
   But I understand the need to support your friend. I encourage you to do that. He needs friends now.

Sorry, I didn't realize I was signed on as BrothersTrial. This is Steve E. Swenson making these comments

I went golfing this morning, so I didn't see the verdict until this afternoon. I wrote a blog entry yesterday saying it would happen today. That was a no brainer. And after the transcript was released today regarding the dismissed juror, I see my post just after it happened was correct. I have good sources.

I just watched the video of Vincent's mother and family, along with Wesley Crawford outside the courthouse this morning. Unbelievable. I recall back in the mid-80's when I sent Wesley to prison for possessing crack cocaine. But his last name was Clawford then. Before he became Wesley Mohamaad, and now Crawford.

And I predicted a few weeks ago that Ed Jagels will not complete his term in office, and Lisa Green will be his replacement until the next election is held. Mark my words.

Good job Lisa, and rot in HELL Vincent!!

he probably won't tell the same lie about the accident

That's right: Brothers will stick to his other Big Lie: that he's innocent.

Buh bye, perp

The sentence is an appropriate one. 

It's unfortunate that some  use such a tragedy to yell their racism.  If the jury had voted not guilty,  or life, the same people would yell their racism by claiming that the jury had discounted the value of the victims because they were Black.

It's a no win situation with such folks.   

random,

He'll do better in a re-trial:  He learned to not take the stand, and he probably won't tell the same lie about the accident.  I wonder about his brother, Troy.  I wonder if he'll still be missing by that time.

As for "prison justice":

Aren't death row inmates isolated so that no one can hurt them?

It's over enough that, until appeal starts, all this squawking and yipping and yelling can stop.

I'm not in Kern and don't know much about the Sons case

Oh, ok....so you are NOT all knowing?

You'll enjoy Brothers' screams then when the State terminates his existence here on Earth.

I'll bet you said that about bruce sons.

RE: Rie

I am not saying you are wrong but.............. It is possible to know someone and really never know them or what they are really capable of. I do respect your loyalty to a friend. I don't know if he committed the crime or not. I do know that a jury thought he was guilty. They also thought and it seems to have been proven that he was lying on the witness stand. It would also seem from the evidence that he was leading a life full of lies. I know that does not make him a killer. If I were his friend though it would make me wonder. Why all the deception? I would really have to question whether I really knew this person or not.

"HIDE" BEHIND THAT "NAME"--LOL

Ladysandee is just another name for anonymous. I'll post my information right after you do. Same to ya!

LOL. Some of you people crack me up. I can only say this for what I think, I was not there. I was not at the murder, I was not at the trial, I don't know if he did it or not. That is why I belong to a society where we elect a jury of his peers and they look at the evidence and decide. I don't think it matters if the jurors were black or white (well except the one black juror did have a point, it was lose lose for him, or so he thought).

Those of you who think he is innocent because you know him are fools. All mankind if capable of this. I worked in prison and anyone is capable of anything. You might not want to believe he is capable, but you are being naive. I just couldn't help but laugh at the quote in the paper about the guy who said, "No black father would do this." What bull crap. Black, white, Asian, African, European, they are all capable of doing this.

Then you get the crowd who wants to attack the death penalty by attacking the Bible. More stupidity. As one poster pointed out, this is a secular society. Secular society says let him die, then he dies. Don't try and change the subject by pretending to know what Jesus wants other people to do concerning the death penalty. If you are a Christian read your Bible, seek God's will, and be confident in your walk. I respect you if you are a Christian against the death penalty or a Christian for the death penalty as long as you are doing what you think is right. When it comes down to it what this secular world wants out of this means nothing to me and my walk.

Bottom line, he was convicted of murder. As has been pointed out, what other options according to law are there for a guy who kills two adults and three children in pre-meditated murder?

This case is not about race or religion. It is about law and justice.

WILL DO "ANON"---

WITH YOUR COMMENTS-- IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THAT YOU  EVER SO "BRAVELY"--- "HIDE" BEHIND THAT "NAME"--LOL

Who cares what the sob sisters spam in: some of us will be eating popcorn when the sodium pentathol hits this perps' veins.  Buh Bye, Vincey.  

Yes go back to your corner.