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BrothersTrial - > The People vs. Vincent Brothers -> Jury recommends Brothers should receive the death penalty
Jury recommends Brothers should receive the death penalty
A jury decided Tuesday that Vincent Brothers should receive the death penalty for killing his three children, his wife and his mother in law.

The jury deliberated for 6 hours over three days.

They deliberated for about 30 minutes this morning.

The judge will  have to confirm the sentence.

Brothers was found guilty of the five murders on May 15.

The judge will review the jury's recommendation on Sept. 27.
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posted by BrothersTrial on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 10:26 AM
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posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 02:15 PM

 GOSH--  If this wasn't sooooooo sad it would be hilarious--reading all these "comments"--it's so clear that most of the posters do NOT read the rules-Good ol   "Bakersfield-ee-nns"  --( type o's are on purpose -BTW )

 As far as WHY am I here??     Well--because I have an interest  in this case since I lived in Bakersfield when it happened and it's my right--doesn't mean I have to state ALL my opinions and views...

Sooooooo if you will excuse me-- I think I'll go out and enjoy my own little corner of this world.. NOT in Bakersfield--

NO OFFENSE    lol.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 02:14 PM

"You've been reported, Random Red Factor. You're the clown: atheist-socialist one post; quoting Screepture the next. Or perhaps you're just schizophrenic: a reading of your emotional rants seems to suggest as much. "

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You are scarring me. LOL!

posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 02:13 PM
NO, it's pretty obvious Brothers was lying about being back east; and that was PROVEN, via numerous pieces of evidence.  Guilty, 187. Sentence: Death.   
posted by sfinboston52 on May 29, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Hum, currently death by injection is being looked at to see if it is humane. If not then life in prison w/o parole. I believe a small simple room, no tv, no radio, no gym workouts...just lots and  lots of junk food and high carb food.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 02:10 PM
Petersen would not have ever been convicted in Kern County, and that is a fact. Unless they gave him an all Black jury, fat chance!
posted by Rie on May 29, 2007 at 02:09 PM
Vincent didn't do this- I went through college with him and have known him in a professional capacity since. He was ALWAYS the voice of reason and calm. Personally, I believe Ernestine Harper who was a "street corner" advocate angered some gang members with her aggressive stance on the gang problems, especially in that part of town. I believe she got too close and she and her family paid the ultimate price. I personally hope someone figures this out before an innocent man is put to death.
posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 02:09 PM
You've been reported, Random Red Factor. You're the clown: atheist-socialist one post; quoting Screepture the next. Or perhaps you're just schizophrenic: a reading of your emotional rants seems to suggest as much. 
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 02:07 PM
A jury sat for a very long time and listened to all the evidence presented and they determined that he is guilty, you mean the White jury after one of the white jurors was not going to get his way, so he ratted true or not he ratted, he deserves a T-Shirt. What a bunch of Christians in denial, it was not Bakersfield Justice? Get a clue, this guy was in death row before he went to court the first day, it was a slam dunk, a no brainer, open and shut case the moment Ms Hatchet got the case. Brothers never had a chance, even with a Michael Jackson make over this guy was toast as soon as he was on the judge, jury, and DA's radar. I know that most of Bakersfield white polulation is joyous and Green will probably receive more flowers than a rock star, but the only thing this proved, was the mentality of white Bakersfield on the minority community, but than that is and has never been a secret.
posted by randomfactor on May 29, 2007 at 02:06 PM
Shrug.  Peterson was white, as were his victims, and therefore more visible to the national entertainment media.  I don't think *HE* should've been sentenced to death either.
posted by randomfactor on May 29, 2007 at 02:04 PM
At least quote me correctly, bozo.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 02:04 PM
Ahh your all forgetting the good time Vincent is going to have in prison when the other inmates find out he killed his 3 children.
posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM

NO, you missed the point, Anny: RF yawped "what would Jesus do"?  Scroll up a few dozen posts, if you have the GUI skills for that.  Sort of a moot point anyways, since this is a secular society, and not based on Scripture (tho' it's not consistent anyway).   The point is that the anti-death penalty people will whine for months about Brothers (or a Tookie), but few liberals said anything about the railroading of Scott Peterson (and people associated with the case admit there was little or no hard evidence connecting him to Laci's death) . Scott Peterson was on the national hysteria news, 24/7 for a few months; Vince Brothers--whose crime was quite more heinous than that of Peterson's (if SP did it at all) ---barely made it out of Kern .   

posted by GrpThink on May 29, 2007 at 01:54 PM

It's just some of his followers I can't stomach.

Jesus save us... from your followers.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 01:52 PM

Note how one of the regular BC comrades, Random Factor (and acknowledged atheist), has no problem invoking Jee-suss when it comes to opposing the death penalty  (or furthering his own agenda) . 

 

Boy did you miss the point of the random's post. Not surprising. Boy that skull is pretty fuzzy. What are you smoking?

posted by randomfactor on May 29, 2007 at 01:51 PM

Jesus never said "Vengeance is mine."  That was Paul.  ('Course, he got a *LOT* of stuff wrong...)

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Why not invoke Jee-zus, Pere?  I'm a Christian atheist.  It's just some of his followers I can't stomach.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 01:50 PM

I forgot for a minute that I no longer live in Bakersfield and resorted to that "level"----

Did you read that. She just "dissed" bakers. Yes sandee all of those neo-cons are on a certain "level"

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 01:47 PM

I will keep that opinion about Jesus to myself--I know what Jesus did in the "market place"

So, you have no opinion. Why are you here?

posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Exactly. Instead of relying on Scripture (tho' perhaps some recall that Old Testament chestnut "an eye for an eye"), rational  citizens might take a vote on whether murderers (especially mass murderers like Brothers) should hang or not. Aye!  The ayes have it.  Now expedite the process.
posted by jfrancais on May 29, 2007 at 01:08 PM
One can use the bible to justify anything (death penalty, slavery, Capitalism, etc.)
posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 01:06 PM
Note how one of the regular BC comrades, Random Factor (and acknowledged atheist), has no problem invoking Jee-suss when it comes to opposing the death penalty  (or furthering his own agenda) . Haven't you said repeatedly that Jee-sus never existed, or at least he was merely mortal, raht , RF?  From Darwin to teary-eyed  liberal whenever necessary. Do you oppose the death sentence awarded to Scottie Peterson as well, RF (with hardly the evidence used to convict Brothers): he's not quite the PC-leftist  hero that VB has become, of course. 
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 01:04 PM
I am familiar with the money changers incident as well. Yes, Vincent will have to meet his Maker. That's assuming there is a 'Maker'. But I will take your word for it just for the sake of argument.
posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 01:00 PM

I will keep that opinion about Jesus to myself--I know what Jesus did in the "market place" --( re/ money changers )

He also said "vengence is mine"---as someone said eariler,  whatever happens here on earth, if this penality is carried out or not, Vincent ( along with ALL us humans on the earth ) have to answer to HIM ( GOD )

posted by dusty1215 on May 29, 2007 at 12:59 PM
The track record of the DA's office here in Bako isn't the best. A retrial isn't completely out of the picture yet.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:58 PM

In response to anonymous 12:47 PM comment "And what was it that one of the jurors said...It was something that the prosecutor said that convinced her of his guilt.  I thought his guilt was to be determined by the evidence, not prosecutor's statements or arguments."

I think you need to read the comments by the juror again.

"Juror No. 407 said something the prosecutor said in her closing argument helped her reach a verdict on the death penalty."

She did not say it helped her reach a verdict of guilty. That verdict was reached before the comments from the prosecutor which the juror was referring to. There is nothing wrong or inappropriate with considering comments from the prosecutor or defense attorney in determing a sentence.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:52 PM
So, you believe that Jesus would be FOR the death penalty Sandee?
posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 12:50 PM
So right--My applology for the name calling............I forgot for a minute that I no longer live in Bakersfield and resorted to that "level"----
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Appeal, Overturned, New Trial, Change of Venue, Acquittal.  It's possible.  Then what will Kern County bloggers have to talk about?  Something else will pop up by then, I'm sure.  And what was it that one of the jurors said...It was something that the prosecutor said that convinced her of his guilt.  I thought his guilt was to be determined by the evidence, not prosecutor's statements or arguments.  Damn, they didn't even review all of the evidence, not in 15 hours or less and there was 2 months of testimony.  This jury went with the prosecution because she proved he lied; the prosecution lied also, so how much credibility did they have.  It will all be sorted out at appellate court. He will get a new trial; the prosecution made absolutely sure of that. 
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Last time I checked 'idiot' is namecalling. So it's the pot calling the kettle black, right?
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:46 PM
I don't care what happens to him. This trial never interested me at all, I never read anything about him, not even this blog. I am only posting this on behalf of others that feel the same way I do.
posted by Perezoso8 on May 29, 2007 at 12:45 PM

A jury decided Tuesday that Vincent Brothers should receive the death penalty for killing his three children, his wife and his mother in law.

AS Marv Alpert would say, Yes!  Now big decision for homie Vince: gas or the chems. Go for the pentathol sleepy time, Vince man.   

posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 12:44 PM

Lady Sandee didn't duck out--I don't argue with idiots who resort to name calling...

 We all have opinions about this case-- the BOTTOM line is--of those who KNOW the truth-5 are dead--so that leaves 2, Vincent Brothers and God Almighty.........I'll put Vincent in Gods hands.....

posted by tja2fordsters on May 29, 2007 at 12:38 PM

I guess the rule of not personally attacking each other has just flown right out the window in this forum.  Unfortunate too, these forums represent the community as a whole and to see the tempers and language above don't reveal us in the best light.

My thoughts are that even though he may live a long life behind bars, he still doesn't get the freedoms we take for granted.  He'll never sit in a Borders reading a magazine, have dinner and drinks with friends at Tahoe Joe's, play hookie from work to see a movie with his buddies... most importantly, be with a woman again (which is obviously a big deal for him seeing his torrid affairs).  So, while he will continue to live for what may be a long time... his only love will be from Tony the 300 lb guy in a dress and Sharpie marker mascara... and his only entertainment will be in from of a TV covered in Plexiglas.  The only good thing he has is knowing how he will probably die.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:32 PM

I don't know why anyone is surprised. After all the jury found him guilty of this horrendous crime. That being the case how could they not impose the death penalty.  It has nothing to do with black, white or Bakersfield justice as a few want to spout. A jury sat for a very long time and listened to all the evidence presented and they determined that he is guilty. The community should commend them for their service and for what I am certain was a very gut wrenching decision.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:28 PM
We can only hope anon.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Hmmmm...it looks like sandee ducked out. Hopefully she went to church to pray for forgiveness for her impure thoughts.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:24 PM

anony 12:12,

They weren't selling any bracelets but they were passing out pendants:

 

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:17 PM
What is the great surprise, this is Bakersfield justice where the courts have never met a Black man that did not need conviction.  I love the loud ranting of ladysandee, the last time I heard a screamer in bed was under better circumstances but they are always exciting either way.
But what the hell, no sense in mulling this one over, it is not the first lynching of a Black man in Bakersfield and it will not be the last, I have faith Kern justice in the system. And yes he will be killed by the State and there is no comparison to Son's, Sons was white, Sons was very white, as for that other white guy who killed an old man in Rosedale a few years ago, well, he too is plying gold with Robert Blake now.
I love to hear those wonderful white folk who like ladysandee love to shout their Christianity and thump their Bible to the tune of the death march, geez she must be an ex-marine groupie, love of death does not come that easy to most. Shhhhhhhh, another Black has bit the dust!!
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Good point random. Hey sandee let's make executions public. We could hold them at your church on Sunday's right after the sermon. It could be a family affair.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Are they selling those bracelets down at courthouse? Perhaps some folks on this blog might want to buy one.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:12 PM

"The evidence was so circumstantial, I figured the jury might give him life in prison. But I was wrong"

Me too. Sorry to burst the bubbles of all the blood thirsty neo-cons on this blog, but this case will be overturned. At the very least the sentence will be commuted. Someone else already mentioned it but if Sons can get off Brothers will be out in no time at all.

posted by randomfactor on May 29, 2007 at 12:10 PM
WWJE.  Who Would Jesus Execute?
posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 12:09 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm A rule here on posting comments is no personal attacks...maybe you best know someone before you name call eh??

 And as I said earlier--the focus IS on the topic-----

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:09 PM
The evidence was so circumstantial, I figured the jury might give him life in prison. But I was wrong.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:09 PM
That's right dusty. Not very many bright ones on this particular blog.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Ok...Death Penalty = WRONG

Enough said.

spam code: oheal

posted by dusty1215 on May 29, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Oh my gosh, anon, please..do not invoke Godwin's law..most wouldn't know it if they were slapped upside the head with it.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:05 PM

Alright kiddies,

Lets get off the name calling and focus on the death penalty that is the topic this part of the trial.

posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:04 PM
It's also the favored color of........I better not invoke Godwins Law.
posted by anonymous on May 29, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Not for attention whores like yourself. Its considered rude to type in caps and bold font. Usually only the wingnuts do that, and you just might qualify.
posted by LadySandee on May 29, 2007 at 12:01 PM

A FAVORITE COLOR--RED---

SIGNIFIES THE BLOOD JESUS SHED FOR ME...

 ARE THERE "RULES" ON WHAT COLORS AND FONTS WE USE HERE?  :-)

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