WOW!! thats about all I can say.

 OldBlue:  I am wondering if you are a cop!  I have nothing against police because there are good cops and bad cops!  To be honest with you, the police have only helped me out one time and I am forever thankful for that day that particular officer helped me out.  A few years ago, I lived on Marsha St.; One night I was gone all night and, while I was gone, two young gang members broke into my apartment; the officer was driving down the street when he saw the two young men moving stuff.  At that point, the two young men saw the police officer and they took off on the run.  Well, the police dog caught up with one of the young men; the other guy managed to get away.  That police officer that night did a great favor for me and I am forever grateful for what he did.  If I had been home at the time of break in, the two youngmen might of really hurt me because they had a knife in their possession.  I think the good Lord was watching over me that night!  A few times that I have come into contact wih the BPD, the officer was sarcastic and rude without reason.  I have found that the Kern County Deputies are friendlier than the BPD.

 I wouldn't wanna fight any of the scumbags youse guys have to, male or female. Its one thing to be able to "just let go" when fighting but cops have to be restrained in their response and that would be tough. I would be so tempted to just start throwin on someone who spits on or bites me! (male or female)

I honestly couldn't do it. I wouldn't a been a good cop. I know this.

I still cannot believe that the Deputy who came forward on this is being shunned by others in the Dept, especially the other Deputies. Detention Deputies? Possibly. Real Peace Officers? God, I would hope not!

Whom ever that Deputy is, I wish him the best. He did the right thing IMHO...Some people just have enough pride in what they do they just can't abide others doing it wrong!

I know this --  were I to see people treating cows like those dudes in the PETA video, I'd lose it! Pokin em in the eye with quirts, etc. No way! Cows are food, they are not something to be mistreated along the way!

Same with "customers" of the Sheriff's Dept. Hook em, Book em, Lock em up....... tune em up a little once in awhile if they need it along the way...... but don't beat em ta death. That's not professional.

I still think sangre joven's Dept is good. You guys down there oughta treat your Deputies and Dispatchers with respect. They deserve it!

 I'm affraid I'm not wrong. My friend is in pretty close contact with him. I went on a couple of calls with him, before and after this and he seems like a stand up guy. Most of us are good guys but it sure would make you think long and hard about coming foreward if something like this ever happened again.

You are right though, it is detention deputies, not Deputy Sheriff's, that are on trial for murder.

BTW, did I mention that most of the spitters and biters were female?

 bakersfield: I don't know, I just read that a Deputy came forward in this matter. I don't believe it was Deputies BTW that were allegedly beating the guy as they have Detention Deputies? down there? Tulare went through this, now they are back to regular Deputies in the jails.

I hope what you say is not true......... that this deputy has been "run off". This would be grounds for a lawsuit in any case if true (by him), but it would also IMO be indicative of a level of corruption and lack of character within the Kern County Sheriff's Dept. I just don't think that can be the case. Not from my admittedly limited contact with Deputies and from what I hear.

I sincerely hope you are wrong in this bakersfield.

 Chico - I think the deputy that came foreward in the Moore case has been completely run out of the department. I talked to a friend of his and it doesn't look like he'll be going back to work. I think it's disgusting and I'm not proud to be a member of the Sheriff's Department in regards to this. From what I understand, the harassment never stopped and now they got what they wanted.

In regards to this latest idiot, you resist, you get what's coming. Once you are restrained, fight's over. Although, I have been bitten, spit on, and kicked by a restrained suspect.

 Lame it seems to me your the one who is lame Your only paying attention to what satisfies you. It seems to me maybe your getting offended that the bpd was caught doing wrong maybe you got an involvement with them hmmmmm........and if you dont like mine and callmetracys opinion why dont you go away remember its her blog not yours

 O8er, marella plead to being in possession of meth for sales, plus being a felon in possession of a gun. Not like he was some little tweaker with a dime bindle in his pocket. And zamora obviously plead because he was guilty. Duh!

And the BPD officers did not assault anyone. They used the force necessary to arrest a couple of thugs. While you and Tracy are writing all these blogs, and marella and zamora are starting their sentences, the BPD officers are still out there protecting your lame asses....

Now, go away.

 Maybe the witnesses had something to hide themselves.

 OldBlue marella pleaded to the charges because he was guilty for having meth on him. why zamora pleaded i have no idea that was kinda stupid he should have fought it because he would have won. But thats still not the point the point is the bpd assalted someone and are trying to get by with it. why do you say i am callmetracys spokes person

 O8er, you can say you witnessed this arrest until you are blue in the face, but it does not take away from the fact these morons both plead guilty to some of the charges and are off to jail and/or prison for a while. And if you live in the 100 block of El Tejon, you will no doubt have many more opportunities to watch the police in action...

What is funny is all these O8er's are saying they witnessed the arrest, but the morons didn't fight the charges. So typical.

And, are you callmetracy's spoke person?

 AUDREYB matter of fact i did witness the incident it happened in the 100 block of wilson ave and i live at 133 el tejon it started right in front of where i live I DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED im not trying to put the cops down for the hell of it. My run ins with the law have never been physical {last one in 2003} so dont try and make it look like i blowing smoke and dont know what i am talking about

 Its a fine line Nan, but I always hafta think, in today's world, if I was a cop I'd think twice about really doin my job with zeal!

A feller does the best he can then he gets sued fer it!

I saw the parents of one of those subhuman beeyatches on TV who beat the girl (in Fla) and put it on Youtube. He was defendin his little darlin right down the line. Wasn't her fault. The other girl brought it on....on and on.....

I thought to myself.....no wonder these kids are like they are..... look where they came from! Parents who don't parent....then the kids get in trouble and they defend them...... even when they are so wrong and twisted ya could screw em inta the ground!

And too many lawyers just waitin like vultures ta get em ta sue the deep pockets and collect their 33 ta 40% of proceeds.....

Yep, wait er on out....... things may just clear up on their own...... go if ya have ta..... be minimally invasive.... thats the ticket!

No Dirty Harry's anymore (if there ever was any-- not even dingy Harry's nowdays)

 Audrey, anyone who still believes Brothers was innocent is delusional.  Rational people who aren't pulling the race card know he was guilty.  As for tossing in Bruce Sons, he was guilty as sin too and his son was an idiot for pulling a gun out of a trunk to show cops it wasn't loaded.  I believed in the tooth fairy too until the take wasn't keeping up with inflation.  Anyway..tossing him in the mix is just a red herring to avoid looking racist.

Peek...you say you were there when he was taken into custody and that you talked to eye witnesses.  That sounds like you weren't there for the actual incident.   How close do you live to that neighborhood?  If you live there, you should know the "witnesses" are going to stand behind their own against "the man."  In 1959 I lived at 319 Washinton when my son was born and that whole area was a nice family neighborhood.  Drive down any of those streets just off N. Chester now.  It...has...changed.  And not for the good.

 I WAS THERE as Marella was taken into custody, and I DID talk to eye witnesses whom all claim police brutality, so live in your world of make believe, duck under your covers. Marella and Zamora DID NOT deserve what happened to them.

 Nancy

Timec is still saying that Brothers got a raw deal.  He had fellow employees that testified for him. Can you believe it. 

His wife's family was never in doubt of his guilt.

 We always have a large panel of experts who neither knew the people involved nor were at the scene when it happened and yet they all KNOW what went on.

The ones who do know someone who was involved always KNOW that the cops were wrong because their friend/relative/neighbo said so.  I'm reminded of those who posted right here on this blog that they KNEW Marshall would have done any of the things he was accused of.  "I've known (insert name) all my life and I KNOW he/she was telling the truth."

Riiiiiight.

 08er

Are you familiar with regulations governing law enforcement officers.   Were you there to witness the capture of this suspect? 

Truth is, you don't know squat about the incident but you're ready to blame the police anyway.

 the criminal was wrong for running but that doesnt give them the right to do what they did after the suspect surrendered. the law enforcement broke the law shouldnt they have to pay for what they did theyre no better than the rest of us

 John

Where do you think Edward Humes got his inspiration.  From the Bakersfield Californian.  He merely cribbed it from the paper and tweaked the name.  Humes got his reputation running around the country searching for  the underside of authority so he could write a book for people who aren't picky about footnotes.

You have a personal beef with authority so you're not exactly unbiased.  Have you ever  thought that the police were right and the  criminal wrong? 

 "Nancy- downtown, eye st tonight, 10 o clock. Get out more" 

And that is reference to what?

If a law enforcement officer has reason to tell you to stop...you'd better stop.  If you're innocent then what's the harm.  If you're guilty and run, you are disobeying a direct order from someone who then has the right, no the obligation, to find out what why you're running.

A little more experience in life might make some of these posts have more credibility.

 As a 35 year photographer, I can say the First Amendment allows you to photograph anything in a public area.  That is a right you have under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.  However, you do not have the right to interfere with the actions of a law enforcement officer.  Whether you are six feet away or sixty feet away, if you are causing the officers to be distracted from the arrest, you are interfering with their duties.

Had the photographer actually followed the officers directions and not argued with him, nothing would have come of it.  Here in Bako, I have photographed and video taped the officers in the performance of their duties many times and have been asked to step back several times.  The difference between my situation and Mr. Zamora is I didn't argue about my rights. I found another position to film the event and didn't interfere with the officer.   After the fact, the officer was actually nice enough to apologize for having to ask me to move away from the action.

In short, if you act like an ass, expect to be treated like one.

 I think is WRONG for anyone to call law enforcement pigs.  Anyone who starts out with that attitude will probably do something to cause problems for himself.  Wouldn't it be easier to go in with an attitude of compliance?  That way no one gets tired from all that running and you don't get tazed.

 08'er, you start out with the porcine refs like Bravo. Do you realize how that diminishes the rest of your post?

Most won't take it seriously, regardless the grains truth that may be contained therein.

I don't know what transpired in the Moore incident, I wasn't there. Were you?

Did you stop to think that - no matter what did transpire - that is for the courts to decide - a Deputy Sheriff stepped forward to speak out regardless the possible implications to his career, etc.?

There may or may not have been actionable wrongs committed, that is not for me  or you to decide, but the self-policing actions of this one courageous Deputy don't afford you a huge ray of hope relevant to your inveighing against the entire LE community? 

It does me..........

 So do you guys think it was ok that those pigs beat james moore to death. No one deserve to be treated that way we have all done wrong nobodys perfect and its not for you to judge us. We all stand before the same god on judgement day and have to answer for what we have done wrong. The bpd will have to too and so will the rest of you

 Nancy- downtown, eye st tonight, 10 o clock. Get out more. No, a cop doesn't have a right to tell you what to do. And if you're not guilty, you will be charged. If there are 50 criminals and 100 cops, what are the other 50 cops doing?

Chico-Relevant as always.

 You know, there were probably a dozen books out after the JFK assaisination and each was slanted to the authors way of seeing facts.  What makes you John, or anyone else, think that Mean Justice was any less slanted?

Even if if was, Audrey is right, it's past history.  Everyone knows there is corruption in most law enforcement agencies but that doesn't make them all bad.  You're going to find one bad apple in just about every barrel.  You complain about too many cops on the streets?  You are absolutely the ONLY person I'veever heard say that and I would disagree with you completely. My guess is you're one of those who use the cop/doughnut shop joke while complaining about too many on the street. 

This always brings howls from the do gooders but personally I'm glad our cops have a rep for being tough and have a no BS attitude.  I like it that people in other areas spread the word that if you want to commit suicide come to Kern County and rob a bank.  I don't want a Mayberry group of law enforcement officers.

As has been said ad nauseam, if you don't do the crime, you won't do the time and have nothing to worry about.  Cop says stop, you stop.  Cop says drop, you drop.  It's really pretty simple.

 Relevant as always chico ;-)

 AudB - No it shows your intelligence, I was talking about a book, and you're referring to a Californian article. Relevance today? It's all still happening and you said it, the head of the mafia still has hold? Funny he has a gang of bodyguards in such a small town, that is if all the criminals are locked up, only those opposed to corruption and scum would want him.

 20+ years ago I rode that elevator......But I never went for a ride in it.

 Well, that just goes to show how intelligent you are.  You DO believe anything in print,.  But only if it conforms to what you wish were true!

On a side note, most of the officers, DA personnel (except Jagels) city admnistration, criminals, etc are either dead or retired since most of it happened 30 years ago.   What's the relevance FOR TODAY! 

My experience with law enforcement having been arrested a few times is usually they don't beat you up unless you ask them to. I have never been hit by a cop. I've been tossed to the ground and jerked around but never hit. Why, because I didn't act like an idiot and resist arrest. Only dummies resist arrest. Resisting arrest is like saying Mr cop will you pleases whoop my azz. You see I never asked them to whoop my because deep down I knew they wouldn't have a problem doing so. When I hear of some tweeker or crackhead who got their azzes whooped my first reaction is they deserved it. In the case of the Oildale tweeker who ran well, he ran so he basically begged the police to beat his azz. With every step he was saying hit me beat me hit me beat me hit me beat me hit me beat me............................. 

 Congratulations? I'll take the word of the pulitzer prize winning author of Mean Justice over yours...

 John

Speaking as a lilly livered white pig, let me be the first to say you're blowing smoke.   I read Mean Streets before it was published in the Bakersfield Californian.  Did you know the Shafter Press published it at least 10 years before TBC?   The Shafter Press version was less subtle than TBC rendition, if that's possible.

In my opinion, some of it was probably true.  But anything written with a TOTAL SLANT like  Mean Streets was has got to be taken with a grain of salt.  You appear uncapable of making that distinction so I'm sure Mean Streets is like a bible to you and your kind.

Your post reeks of an unpleasant encounter with law enforcement, so I don't think you're capable of being unbiased.  Therefore I'll treat your post with the importance it deserves.

 Bunch of boot lickers.... Taser didn't work? Please... Was it 4 or 5 cops each had a limb, then say they had trouble restraining him? And you don't know the gestapo they use on you. You get in there and it's bargain time. Go along, go to jail. Don't? Well, ask OB to tell you his favorite joke about suicide. He loves it! Gets off on it. That's the kind of people we're talking about. How about the pig said get back, and Zamora DID just that? How about when the pork said I'll be taking that talking about the camera? Then arrested dude, with no suspicion, charged him, for exercising his 1st Amendment right? Nope, none of that's important. Tweaker, sommmmbit*h got wut he had  a comin!

Again, you people have a hard time reading, but please check out "Mean Justice" and your lilly white sheltered lives might gain some insight into the corruption. But then, you people are trained, probably think it's good.

Try this one, what are all these new cops going to do? There aren't that many criminals. Who do you think they're going to start enforcing their will against? I saw 4 on bikes within 2 blocks of eachother on chester. Generating revenue. Brave and all that? Put their lives on the line? Their risk of death on the job is comparable to gardeners, and the No. 1 cause of death of cops is traffic accidents! Just because they don't hang out at bingo halls and pharmacies doesn't mean everyone else has to see  15 of them a day.

 Never mind Marella or his rights. Never mind the cops being right or wrong. Is the dog o.k. after biting this jerk? No signs of being sick or anything like that?

It is true that Leonard Marella has had several run in's with the police, but he is still a human being

Good. He'll fit right in with all the other human beings in the pen. I'll be sure to mail Saint Leonard a weekly Snickers bar, since he's "not going anywhere for a while..."

 oh chit....

 if ya can't figger it out

ya ain't meant ta know

ask OB

Chico what the hell are you saying man why don't you write right ..............you confuse the hell out of me ...Am I the only one who has no idea what Chico is saying half the time.

Gube, you wouldn't be referrin to the ol' Otis in the CRF?....What does that mean?

 OldBlue when I was younger and up to no good I really disliked the cops BUT I had a healthy respect for them. It was all fun and games until the cops got there but when they did there I was smart enough to know...Game over!

 Once he's cuffed and on the ground, that's where it ends.

You right shore bout that Tom?

 Gube, you wouldn't be referrin to the ol' Otis in the CRF?

Sounds like you been to more'n one rodeo!

And OldBlue, I love your comments!

The guy's white trash living in one of the worst part of the 'dale. What a shame (not really) he got banged up a little.  

Ms. Tracy - just to clarify, I grew up in the 'Dale - Woodrow & Washington when they were still decent streets. Also, I have no criminal record. I moved my mom off Woodrow when I would drive to her house and guys would be swinging tire irons in the street.

 Gube, I think I just had a change of heart about you.....

 peekaboo, rest assured, this will never happen to me or my family. Probably because we aren't convicted felons, career criminals, or meth heads. And yes, Mr. Zamora took a stand, the dumba**. And since he plead guilty to the charges, hopefully he will find an attorney to take his case from prison. But the chances of him prevailing, or that dipsh*t Marella, are about 1 in a million.