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ChicoEsquela - > MOO! -> The Pseudo-Intellectual Parrots That Facism is Always From the RIGHT!
The Pseudo-Intellectual Parrots That Facism is Always From the RIGHT!

The facts your liberal friends need to hear
By Jonah Goldberg

Liberals, perhaps more than anyone, believe that we should be vigilant against the threat of fascism. Now, they also believe that fascism can only come from the Right--I think they're wrong. But, what liberals - and everyone else - very much need to understand is that whatever direction fascism comes from, it's popular. Fascism succeeds in democratic countries because it convinces people that it's the wave of the future, it's progressive, it's young, it's vital, it's exciting. Fascist promise to fix what's broken in our democracy, to heal our wounds, to deliver us to promised lands. So if you think fascism comes from the Right, fine. But at least keep in mind that it won't sell itself as dull, or uptight, or old-fashioned.

Let me take a moment to give you a concrete sense of what I mean.

Fascism appealed to youth activists. Indeed, the Nazis and Fascists were in major respects youth movements. In 1931, 60 percent of all German undergraduates supported the Nazi Student Organization. "Their goal," the historian John Toland wrote of the young idealists who fed the Nazi rise to power, "was to establish a youth culture for fighting the bourgeois trinity of school, home and church."

Meanwhile, middle and lower class Germans were attracted to the economic and cultural populism of Nazism. The Nazi party began as the German Worker's Party. The Nazis economic rhetoric was eerily similar to John Edwards "Two Americas" talk. The Nazis promised to clamp down on Big Business - particularly department stores, the Wal-Marts of their day - and end the class struggle. Theodore Abel, an impressively clever American sociologist, gives us insight into why working class Germans were attracted to Nazism. In 1934 Abel took out an ad in the Nazi Party journal asking "old fighters" to submit essays explaining why they had joined. He restricted his request to "old fighters" because so many opportunists had joined the party after Hitler's rise. The essays were combined in the fascinating book Why Hitler Came Into Power. One essayist, a coal miner, explained "Though I was interested in the betterment of the workingman's plight, I rejected [Marxism] unconditionally. I often asked myself why socialism had to be tied up with internationalism-why it could not work as well or better in conjunction with nationalism." A railroad worker concurred, "I shuddered at the thought of Germany in the grip of Bolshevism. The slogan 'Workers of the World Unite!' made no sense to me. At the same time, however, National Socialism, with its promise of a community . . . barring all class struggle, attracted me profoundly." A third worker wrote that he embraced the Nazis because of their "uncompromising will to stamp out the class struggle, snobberies of caste and party hatreds. The movement bore the true message of socialism to the German workingman."

Nazism's appeal to the professional classes was just as strong. Raymond Dominick, a historian specializing in the history of German environmentalism, found that by 1939, 59 percent of conservationist leaders had joined the Nazi party, while only 10 percent of adult males had. Forty five percent of medical doctors had joined and roughly one quarter of teachers and lawyers had. The two groups of professionals with the highest rates of participation in the Nazi Party? Veterinarians were first and foresters were a close second. Dominick found a "unique nexus between National Socialism and nature conservation."

The Nazis and Italian Fascists won-over big business, cultural elites, the youth and the lower-classes because they portrayed themselves as heroically on the side of progress, protecting the environment and the poor. Fascists preached unity, togetherness and an end to division.

Liberals need to ask themselves where do they hear this rhetoric the most?

I'm not saying that merely being for the environment, the poor or national unity makes you a fascist. But what I am saying is that if you're concerned about spotting fascism on the horizon you can't just look at people you don't like. That's like only looking for your lost car keys where the light is good. Huey Long reportedly said that if Fascism comes to America it will be called "anti-Fascism." Liberals can still make their arguments that fascism comes from the right. But until they understand that wherever fascism may come from, it never arrives save in a form that the best and the brightest are willing to accept with open arms.

And if liberals don't know their history, they won't be equipped to spot it when it comes knocking.

Jonah Goldberg is the author of the New York Times bestseller Liberal Fascism.

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posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 23, 2008 at 09:01 PM

Yes, the American Liberal has been brainwashed in our school system that Fascism always comes from the Right!

In point of fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

Past is Prologue

......and as the future unfolds, this will be made abundantly clear but alas, it will be too late....................

posted by tkozy on Feb 23, 2008 at 10:25 PM

 

Justin,
 

Make up your mind. Are liberals Fascists or socialists?


 

As a centrist I have fear that the Devil will control America disguised as a right wing evangelical preacher.

But maybe I worry to much.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 23, 2008 at 10:38 PM

rosy

(ref to jason?)

they are bofe (as Dennis Rodman would impart)

the key is

CONTROL!

como esta frijole BTW?

NDak?

Minot?

Launch Control Facilities? (old Minuteman)

You may not be able to understand the concept of Liberal Fascism Rosy,

Any more than the average garden variety liberal cannot fathom the concept of their similarity to the average cracker rumpot sitting in his trailer with his 350 lb. bride gathering together enough jack to send to Jimmy Swaggart -- as they bow to the alter of the almighty Obama!

It is hilarious really! They think they are so intellectual, and they are more like the 700 Club than they will ever dare to even contemplate!

It's killer! Love it!

 

posted by tkozy on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:00 PM

 

Justin,


 

I understand it resides only in your tiny little mind. <:)


 

But Theocratic Dictatorships are reality in the world today. Huck-a-bugger had dreams of being the American savior.

posted by blognroll on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM

 The best ticket, as far as I'm concerned, would be McCain/Huckabee.  There's nothing grandiose about Huckabee.  He had no such American savior delusion.  

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM

rosy

you changed jason to justin thus invalidating that part of my comment

but I kinda like rosy

it fits

given your outlook on life

and comprehension acumen

http://orihimeinoue12.imeem...

 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:38 PM

I would like to see JC Watts or Michael Steele run with McCain!

posted by TomW on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Huey Long reportedly said that if Fascism comes to America it will be called "anti-Fascism."

So the people we really need to worry about are the people who are against fascism and we should be ok with the people who kinda like fascism because that would be too obvious?

I think that's too clever by half.

In truth, one of the big things left out of Goldburg's column was that the poor economy was deemed to be the fault of the untermensch, though the term wasn't used in the early years.  He also missed the part about how Nazism was disguised as a Christian movement which was a big part of the appeal for certain segments of society.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Somehow Tom your comments put me in mind of the Liberal Elitists who think with religious conviction they are "intellectuals" when they fall for an Obama. They call everyone bigots because it is an easy cheap shot when in reality they are no different than the 90 IQ cracker sitting in his trailer with his 350 pound bride scraping together enough dinero to ship off to Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Baker.

Of course they will never intellectually cop to this as their elitism and reluctance to embrace reality runs so deep they cannot see let alone accept their similarity to the 700 Club! 

posted by sfinboston52 on Feb 24, 2008 at 07:46 AM

Thanks for the good chuckle

posted by adampayne on Feb 24, 2008 at 07:55 AM

Goldberg is Coulter in a man suit. As TomW correctly points out, fascism springs from economic chaos and the drive for quick solutions to complex problems. Fascism needs scapegoats, and there are many here in the USA who are very eager to single those disenfranchised and reviled out to an eager public drilled to conformity. Glad to see you, Chico, using all those language identifiers of scapegoating on this post. Somehow there is a reluctance by conservatives to point out their own intellectual elites. Neo-conservatism did not spring from a third grade playground activity, although the consequences surely have been about as intended as a third grade plan.

Regarding bigotry, you're either for equal opportunity under the law, or you are not. You either work for greater participation and inclusion in the process for all, or you don't.  You either think all people have a right to their beliefs, or you don't. And if a whole bunch of people continue to find what you imply, or state, racially offensive you might want to examine the words you use a little more closely.   

posted by randomfactor on Feb 24, 2008 at 07:57 AM

Goldberg's affectionately known on the Internets as "Doughy Pantload."  His mommy got him the job.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:02 AM

fascism springs from economic chaos and the drive for quick solutions to complex problems

Bail out all failed mortgages, Free Health Care, Free College, Free money to every child, Free Citizenship, Free .................

TANSTAAFL

Some confuse  "being offended" with being just shown for what they are BTW

posted by randomfactor on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:03 AM

That's quite the socialist agenda you're putting forth there, Cheek.  Any candidates actually advocating that aside from McCain?

posted by sfinboston52 on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:04 AM

bail out of saving & loans during the 80s? bail out of the airlines in 2001? Huge tax breaks for CEOs and Corps, Allowing Energy/Bank corps to right federal law and policies.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:05 AM

both of yours RF

you must not listen to them

guess you're smarter than I thought

posted by randomfactor on Feb 24, 2008 at 08:53 AM

Chico, *YOU* don't listen to them.   Clinton proposed--more as a trial balloon than as policy--*ONE* of those (the savings-bond-to-every-new-kid one).

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McCain was a Keating Kid, remember, and he's for amnesty (or was that *LAST* week?)  Plus he's been documented as having belonged to the world's largest socialist organization, something neither of the Democratic candidates has been.

.

The guy who coined "TANSTAAFL" also proposed *LOTS* of "socialist" ideas.  You should read his first novel sometime, it was just published a few years back.   He even supported Upton Sinclair's run for California governor.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Feb 24, 2008 at 09:01 AM

read him

some time ago

but I always thought it was Frank Falero

at CSUB.... LOL!

posted by TomW on Feb 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Linguistically speaking, I'm facinated by the monikers that are adopted in our society, especially how adjectives modify words.  Liberal elitist is a good starting point.  It implies that without the modifier that regular elitists are conservative.  The opposite is true of a term like Conservtive Christian where the implication is that regular Christians are liberal.

This is absolutely true historically, though conservative and liberal certainly don't mean what they once did and to many people they mean nothing more than a dirty epithet to hurl a political opponents like a monkey flinging poo.

posted by randomfactor on Feb 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM

I always liked "nattering nabobs of negativism" and "effete intellectual snobs," myself.

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Ah, they don't make *LITERATE* Republican crooks anymore.  Just the usual kind.

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