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FloridaStateGrad - > Stranger in a Strange Land -> Louisiana Judge Refuses Interracial Couple a Marriage License
Louisiana Judge Refuses Interracial Couple a Marriage License

Talk about true ignorance... "I'm not a racist" my patoot!

 

NEW ORLEANS — A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

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posted by FloridaStateGrad on Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 03:51 PM
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posted by Ray_Harwick on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:03 PM

Ah. Louisiana. Old South. My neighbors right down the street are black man and and his white wife. My nephew is married to a dark-skinned Chickasaw and my step-father was a dark brown full-blood Choctaw. My cousin has been married to his black wife for 30 years. My other nephew is married to a black woman. My sister is married to a dark-skinned Iranian and I have two cousins who married Choctaw indians who have skin as dark as any black person in the United States. Wonder how thiis guy draws the line and still decorates his home with all his black friends?

posted by goldilox on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:07 PM

so much for a 'judge' being blind to prejudice, and fair with the scales of equality ... eh.

(PS, someone needs to tell him that folks can still have interracial babies, married or not!) idiot.

 

posted by sagefever on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:10 PM

Read this one earlier today...had to look at the calender to make sure I hadn't dropped into a time warp,again.(Sorry I just had to say that!)

Amazing ~ especially contrasted with the wonderful Tom Joyner story.

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:13 PM

Even though the concept of "race" really is a misnomer, I'm technically in an interracial marriage - I'm caucasian and my wife is latina.

 

Honestly, I'm not surprised at his.. not from Louisiana, which is still very backwoods and even more corrupt.

posted by Patrick319 on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:13 PM

Unreal! This judge needs to be disbarred! I'm sure the ACLU is all over this one. They can make themselves useful for a change.  Black robe by day; WHITE ROBE by night.

posted by SwallowThatGum on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:16 PM

I see the gay/interracial marriage analogy isn't such a bad one after all. We all knew that, tho. BTW, I remember when Louisiana had to choose in the 1990s between a Klansman and a criminal for governor. They chose the criminal, but not with very much help from the white vote.

posted by CatherineBaker on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:28 PM

Geez, Louisiana.  Laissez le bon temps roulez, huh?  Partying like it's 1899, it looks like.

posted by paxchristi3 on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:29 PM

The gay/interracial marriage analogy is a terrible one. Even blacks think so, like Kevin Jackson of The Black Sphere blog:

http://theblacksphere.blogs...

posted by SwallowThatGum on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:37 PM

The term Uncle Tom is a lot older than you are, Jihadist piece of stool. When God created the right to bear arms, it's cuz he saw YOU coming at us.

posted by CheckMate on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:53 PM

What's the big deal? A mule is a cross between a male donkey and a female horse, two different species.


posted by sagefever on Oct 15, 2009 at 04:57 PM

"Even blacks think so"...turns out that Kevin is not the official spokesperson for the entire black populace.

But back to the post~ the couple is reporting this person to the Justice department. Let us hope cooler heads prevail.

posted by Ray_Harwick on Oct 15, 2009 at 05:38 PM

Justice of the Peace Bardwell speaks like Rev. Jerimiah Wright concering race in that he thinks Louisiana hasn't changed, that society is static. He plays parent with adults which is the legacy of the slave owner mentality.

“The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made.… But what we know—what we have seen—is that America can change. That is the true genius of this nation. What we have already achieved gives us hope—the audacity to hope—for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.”  Barack Obama, March 2009

posted by Ray_Harwick on Oct 15, 2009 at 05:50 PM

Geeze Pax, Kevin Jackson sounds eerily like Louis Farrakhan. Jackson wants an all-black world. Wonder what he has to say about the Pope?

posted by jfrancais on Oct 15, 2009 at 06:03 PM

Not surprising in Louisiana.  It's a bit ironic, however, considering that a lot of blacks in Louisiana are a mixture of races and cultures.

I think Justice of the Peace in Louisiana does not have to be a member of the bar.  Their legal system has different traditions and customs. 

My wife told me she could sense the tension when we went out while living in Baton Rouge as an interracial couple.  I never really noticed until the day before I left, we were eating at a restauarant and I could see people staring at us out of the corner of my eye.  This was in 2009!

posted by ALICEN on Oct 15, 2009 at 06:30 PM

The stepson of one of my sisters, along with his wife, adopted a child of an unmarried white woman and black man.  They've raised the child since he was around a year old.  One thing I forgot to say -- this is in South Louisiana. 

The child is about 13 years old now.  He parents have had quite a time, quite a few struggles.  However, a more determined pair of parents couldn't be found.  This child was going to be accepted, come hell or high water.  They nearly had to go to court to accomplish some of the things they have, but they were willing to do whatever it took.  They knew going in that it wasn't going to be easy, and it hasn't been. 

The boy knows well he is loved.  His father, whom I have known since we were both seven years old, loves that boy more than life itself.  His mother is the same way. 

They think it's worth the struggles they've been through. 

 

posted by ALICEN on Oct 15, 2009 at 06:34 PM

FSG:  The comment at 6:30 p.m. is the first comment I've made on your blog in a very long time.  I didn't actually realize it was yours until after I hit the "Submit Comment" button.  I guess it was the "Louisiana" part that attracted me, inasmuch as that's my home state. 

I suppose I simply wanted to let some people know that not everybody there wears pointed hats. 

 

 

posted by paxchristi3 on Oct 15, 2009 at 07:15 PM

Ray, I have read many of Kevin Jackson's posts and not once has he come across as a Louis Farrakhan. If there's anything he'd have to say about the pope, it's that he would respectfully not agree with him on the issue of civil unions, which Jackson is OK with. Now there was a cardinal who initially gave the impression that he was OK with civil unions, but his spokeswoman said otherwise later on: http://fatherjoe.wordpress....

Now to get back on this issue, the judge was wrong to deny the interracial couple to marry. That goes to show you that I don't agree with everything Kevin Jackson or the right-winger say, even if I'm still a jihadist piece of stool as swallowthatgum thinks.

posted by jmabbott888 on Oct 15, 2009 at 07:55 PM

I was waiting to see either Vider Texas or Maysville NC in this lol.

posted by Lingtaowoo on Oct 16, 2009 at 05:49 AM

Can't wait to hear 'Flush Limpballs' comments on this topic...


posted by adampayne on Oct 16, 2009 at 07:05 AM

Ignorance, comes in all shapes, sizes and occupations.


posted by learnem on Oct 16, 2009 at 07:19 AM

there's just no room in the world for that crap

hopefully, the couple wanting to marry took their business elsewhere.

I remember when my wife and I wanted to get married, she wanted to get married @ her parents church.  they wanted us to pay 800 dollars for counseling and books, plus we had to do a sit-down interview with the head pastor.

He didnt like my definition of god, and refused to marry us.

At least he didnt get my money

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:28 AM

YA we gotta keep an eye on those interracial marriages and their offspring..they might even growup to be President someday

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:30 AM

FSG:  The comment at 6:30 p.m. is the first comment I've made on your blog in a very long time.  I didn't actually realize it was yours until after I hit the "Submit Comment" button.  I guess it was the "Louisiana" part that attracted me, inasmuch as that's my home state. 

I suppose I simply wanted to let some people know that not everybody there wears pointed hats.

One should always comment on a blog they feel interested in, regardless of who initially created the thread.

 

To be quite honest, I think you act severely childish by doing your best to ignore those whom you disagree with. I've noticed on many occasions where I've posted a question to you in a specific blog and you chose to ignore it, continuing on with your banter regardless of my inquisitiveness.  I've attempted on multiple occasions to extend an olive branch, and each time I have been rudely ignored.

I honestly wasn't planning on even saying anything about your post on my blog yesterday - that is, until you actually felt the need to explain why you posted.  For someone who's supposedly a lot older than me, you need to grow up.

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:37 AM

FSG For someone who's supposedly a lot older than me, you need to grow up.

now that was chidish FSG..just because some one doesnt choose to talk to you doesnt mean you can act like a spoiled brat and throw a tantrum..theres a number of people on here i disagree with and bite my tongue over comments they have made..its the bloggers rights..I think its time for you to 'GROW UP' and get ur head outta your tail..you cant make everyone like you with your sparkling personality

posted by Lingtaowoo on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:45 AM

~Pax~...when GOD created the right to bear arms....???--O.K.--you got me starting to pop the top on my first tomato beer-(nectar of the gods by the way)..and try to figure that out....

 

posted by catpaw on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:49 AM

Strange story. Is it possible the judge was taken out of context or misquoted? I can think of couples who had no business committing to marriage let alone making babies simply because they are not equipped for it.

Not sticking up for the judge, just goes to show how much I don't trust what I read in the news these days.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 16, 2009 at 09:11 AM

 now that was chidish FSG..just because some one doesnt choose to talk to you doesnt mean you can act like a spoiled brat and throw a tantrum..theres a number of people on here i disagree with and bite my tongue over comments they have made..its the bloggers rights..I think its time for you to 'GROW UP' and get ur head outta your tail..you cant make everyone like you with your sparkling personality

First and foremost, Sioux, that comment was directly to ALICEN, not you. Stay out of it.

Second, I don't care if people like me or not.  I'm not on here to make friends - I have plenty of them.  At the same time, I try to not make enemies either.

Third, I typed out a long defense and just realized - why the heck do I need to explain myself to you? 


posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 09:19 AM

fsg, for what it is worth, I too have been ignored by Alicen, and I agree, it is childish. Her "goodbye _____" is never permanent, and God forbid she should ever be questioned. And yes, why explain anything to Sioux?


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posted by gopherbro on Oct 16, 2009 at 09:20 AM

I wonder how the justice of the peace defines "race".  When speaking of Afro-Eurasian ancestry, there is no such thing as a "pure race" and there hasn't been for several thousand years.  Various groups were constantly moving about and mixing, and the gene flow, though slow, was continuous.   I always enjoy people who comment on their dna tests when the results aren't exactly what they expected.   http://www.kerchner.com/cgi...


posted by ALICEN on Oct 16, 2009 at 09:30 AM

FSG:  No doubt you believe I'm acting "very childish" by doing my best "to ignore those whom [I] disagree with."  You continue:  "I've noticed on many occasions where I've posted a question to you ... and you chose to ignore it, continuing on with your banter regardless of my inquisitiveness.  I've attempted to multiple occasions to extend an olive branch, and each time I have been rudely ignored....You need to grow up."

First of all, I very seldom "banter" with anyone.  Second, I bristle when there is just a little too much "inquisitiveness."  Just joking.  LOL 

Once you told me in a comment to have a nice life (or words to that effect), and that you'd had enough of this b.s.  I could probably find the reference if I tried, but you probably do remember it.  I believe it was in one of your blogs about people blocking you.  I'd made a comment that I really had not much interest in communicating with bloggers who begin a blog comment with "Are you so stupid that ...."  Honestly, it is sort of a turn-off when a blog comment addressed to someone begins that way.  You replied that you had no memory of that, and that if you had ever said it, you apologized, but you were done, have a nice life, and you'd had enough b.s.  Now, I happen to believe that if I EVER began a blog to someone with the words "Are you so stupid that ....," I would jolly well remember it. 

That was that until I saw this "Louisiana" blog and I made the error of commenting on your blog.  If I had realized it was your blog, you may be sure that my comment would never have seen the light of day.  I still have no intention of future comments with someone who begins "Are you so stupid that...."  As a matter of fact, I really don't care to be called "childish," either. 

Actually, I remember the particular topic as well -- the one with your comment to me that began, "Are you so stupid that...."  It had to do with the appropriate "treatment" for child predators.  That was where the blog "went south," so to speak.

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Now, I happen to believe that if I EVER began a blog to someone with the words "Are you so stupid that ....," I would jolly well remember it. 

Your memory must be better than mine, because I still don't recall it.  I wouldn't be surpised if I did say it though - especially during the earlier part of my tenure on the blogs - I was very irritable for a few months and I'm sure it showed on this website. That being said, my disgust with you relies in the fact that you are unwilling to give someone a second chance.  I honestly don't know why I care so much - maybe it's because I have a different view on what public blogging is all about.  I believe that regardless of what someone says to you, unless it's a physical threat, you should at least acknowledge their prescence from time to time, instead of, in essence, sticking your fingers in your ears - "I'm not listening.. na na na" - kind of like how others on here have done (and I've even called them out on it as well).

That was that until I saw this "Louisiana" blog and I made the error of commenting on your blog.  If I had realized it was your blog, you may be sure that my comment would never have seen the light of day.  I still have no intention of future comments with someone who begins "Are you so stupid that...."  As a matter of fact, I really don't care to be called "childish," either. 

You just made my point for me once again.  The fact that you consider your post on my blog to be "in error" to me proves your childishness.  Once again, ALICEN - grow up.  As Harry Truman once said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!"  You might think that's exactly what you're doing, but really you've only moved a few feet away from the oven. 

You might not like my approach sometimes, but as I've said once already today - I call it like I see it.  I never sugarcoat things - neither online or in person.  If I think you're doing something wrong, childish, stupid or whatnot, I will not hesitate to tell it like it is.  If you're so sensitive that you cannot handle such criticism, maybe you shouldn't be on a public blog site. 

 

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

 FSG First and foremost, Sioux, that comment was directly to ALICEN, not you. Stay out of it.

make me...you attack some one I have respect for and your gonna get a piece of me jr

posted by Shwaine on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Could be worse FSG. Alicen won't speak to me because ages ago I assumed she had cut and pasted a chain email when in fact it was her own writing. It had the tenor of a chain email and the practice of cut and pasting without clear attribution was rampant at the time, but apparently making a mistake like that was enough to land me on her do-do list.

Oh, and FYI, you posted some style sheet attributes with the article snippet. The original URL ("Read more at") keeps floating down the page.

posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM

sometimes it is kind of relaxing to be ignored.


posted by ALICEN on Oct 16, 2009 at 01:19 PM

sioux:  thank you, for sticking up for a friend.  I appreciate your caring enough.  I really do. 

posted by ALICEN on Oct 16, 2009 at 01:37 PM

shwaine:  Just to clear the air here.  I do not normally make comments to you anymore.  It's true that I did get uptight about being apparently accused of not having the capability or the capacity to string a few words together and make a few sentences.  You had mistaken my own blog for some "chain mail," and I didn't even know what chain mail was. 

However, my not commenting to you has absolutely nothing to do with your comment about chain mail.  My not commenting to you began after I corrected your spelling of high jinks -- good-naturedly, I thought.  Then I proceeded to respond to your blog comment.   

You next comment related to wanting to know why it was that I felt that I always had to correct your spelling.  You were obviously upset about it. 

I made a very public apology to you right on this site.  I also made an apology to you, contacting you through the site system to do so; in the private comment to you I pointed out that I had made a public apology, and that I hoped you would accept it (or words to that effect).  I never heard from you again.  Not a peep.  Not till now.  I assumed my apology was not accepted.

If you would like to accept my apology, it is still extended.  I apologize for having fun at your expense by correcting your spelling of "high jinks."  (And before anybody gets around to it, I realize it can be spelled in two different ways.)

The reason for this is two-fold:  one, to clear up publicly what you incorrectly said about the reason for my not commenting to you; two, to apologize again publicly.  If you would like to let bygones be bygones, I'm willing. 

I should thank FSG for the forum for this purpose. 

posted by goldilox on Oct 16, 2009 at 01:54 PM

soooo, did the couple get a license afterall?

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:00 PM

 you attack some one I have respect for and your gonna get a piece of me jr

Yes.. oh.. I'm so intimidated that the almighty Sioux feels the need to throw his gauntlet lace gloves down.  Please make it stop!

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:03 PM

pog sometimes it is kind of relaxing to be ignored.

enjoy  it POG..im sure it wont last long..not with your mouth

posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:03 PM

Sioux is the only gentleman in here. He takes up for all the girls.


posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:05 PM

Sorry Sioux, you are way too easy. I have bigger fish to fry.


posted by VirgilAnderson on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:07 PM

 

  I like girls .

--virgil

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:07 PM

FSG his gauntlet  lace gloves down.  Please make it stop!

im sure thats your preference ..jr..might I borrow one of yours to make it official

posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:08 PM

that's nice Virg


posted by VirgilAnderson on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:10 PM

 

It's True.

--virgil

posted by goldilox on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:11 PM

ummm,

soooo, did the couple get a license afterall?

posted by siouxcityranch on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:12 PM

ahh the old cooking carp defense strategy..well dont burn yourself POG...especially your fingers..Id miss your shared bits of wisdom you wipe off your toilet paper and into the comments box..

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:13 PM

 im sure thats your preference ..jr..might I borrow one of yours to make it official

Such sharp wit you have - did you really think of that all by yourself?

 

Seriously, Sioux.. your attempts to anger/upset/intimidate are feeble at best.

posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:14 PM

Thanks Sioux for the kind words. I try to keep my remarks at the proper level, and not use too many big words.


posted by pogo on Oct 16, 2009 at 02:18 PM

You know FSG, I think it is the pictures that set me off more than what they say. Refi in his little superboy suit, Sioux happily posing as toothless hillbilly. So I try to see the humor and keep my cool.


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