so street bikers dont want to ride on the streets anymore? that makes a whole lot of sense.

"And they were told in short that BPD would rather see them out on the street doing moving felonies than exercising in a controlled environment."

I seriously doubt this was said by a BPD Officer. Any verification?

Just as I thought.

It is a violation to be on any airport runways without specific permission from the authorities. Period!

That may be true Chico, but why would they wait and hide on the airport for people to start stunting instead of stopping them at the gate? we all use the same gate so its not like they dont know how we are getting in. another problem is why did they sit and watch us out there the past few weeks and not stop us before this "Motorcycle Harassment Month" began?

This whole ordeal makes no sence to me. We try to keep the stunts off the city streets and this is what happens. Where are stunters supposed to practice in a safe (and legal) enviorment? Stunting is not a crime. If you can consider skateboarding, Motocross, BMX, snowboarding, exc. a sport and legal then why isn't motorcycle sunting? Their are compititions all around the world for MCstunting, so why is it illegal in bakersfield? Im not saying people doing wheelies on streets is ok, i just want a safe place to practice that wont conflict with the safety of others.

Bikers on a runway "after hours" are going to know to get off if a plane needs to make an emergency landing? I recall bikers used to gather outside Hart Park and nobody cared. That was before the area became housing developments. I'm sure if the bikers shopped around, they could find a place to gather without being a problem.

Cops can't always act unless they get a complaint.

Catpaw, you really dont think we have? Every spot that is safe and out of the way of traffic that i know about (and im sure others can confirm) we have been chased out of. Cant go to heart park after hours for long. we got chased out in the first 5 min we were there. We werent doing anything wrong, just hanging out.

That may be true Chico, but why would they wait and hide on the airport for people to start stunting instead of stopping them at the gate?

Well, I can't explain that one BDub, (like the monicker BTW) but it seems to me if there was an unsed stretch of road somewhere, you could get a conditional use permit and have at 'er!

That would make sense to me. I just have to wonder if the whole story is being reported accurately.

Everyone dumps on the cops when, many times, the complainers are the ones truly at fault and just taking the op to express their side of things.

Last night three pilots were waiting for the stunters to ride their bikes. Two pilots were upset that the BPD have cones on the airstrip. I seen the cones myself. One pilots said "These damn hill-billy cops have cones on the runway for their trianing is a crock. When they are drinking beer on the job then riding in slalom and dropping a city owned bike."  What kind of training is that? Humor us. When a waitress says the BPD has been waiting for the riders since 430pm and is hiding at the end of the runway near Planz I have a problem with that. Since BPD has profiled the sportbike riders,should we expect them to be at Chuy's on Rosedale to chastise the Harley bikers? Its only fair...  Lets see how many bike riders actually support May Motorcycle Awareness Month now?

There is something that just feels wrong about this whole thing. I know these bikers and if the BPD wanted to make a point they could do so in a way that would not have such a negative effect.  These are not a bunch of hoodlums.  These young men and women (for the most part) are well educated and reasonable men and women.  They would be willing to work with the BPD for a solution to this.  The crackdown and bike safety month could go together if it were managed correctly.  But the intimidation from BPD (or the appearance of) is not solving the problem of motorcycle and vehicle safety.  This should be a month that the bikers and BPD work together to find solutions and provide education.  You would be surprised at the structure the bikers have in their groups.  There are good drivers and bad drivers which should not lead anyone to conclude that all bikers are bad drivers.  On that same note,  BPD should not be judge as a whole for the way this has been handled.  The decision to have this traffic enforcement directed at motorcyclists was done at a higher level and the officers are doing their job.  They are dispatched and instructed as a whole.  I know the bikers would like to work toward a mutual resolutions.  BPD ..... be an example and try a different approach because this one is just not working.

I really dont hate cops. I usually agree with all the decisions they make, but this to me is non-sence. only problem with the permit thing is the cost. not sure how much, but im not thinking it would be cheap, considering possible injurys so there would need to be some sorta insurance. I just dont see how it could be possible to afford to get a permit for us to meet somewhere week after week.

Not a bad thought though. I think i might have to look into the costs of that just to be sure...

Does "liability" crop up in anyones language?  A man was killed at the beer fest and already "SUE" has popped up.

I noticed motocross was mentioned here..anyone see motocrossers on airport runways?  Streets?  They've been run off all the land they've ever tried to use so I'd say that's a poor example and they certainly cannot ride on the street.

Did the motorcycle "stunters" get permission to use the runways for their activities?  Did they ask?  Did they even check to see if it was legal?  Was there drinking going on?  Last time I was by Chuy's on bike night they were sitting around..not "stunting."

Believe me, as the mom of a long time dirt biker I understand the frustration of not having a place where bikers can ride.  In the 70's "Bicycle Freeway" in Tehachapi was the place to go.  Until it was banned.  The bikers then went to Oak Creek and now I understand the wind farms shut it down.  It IS difficult.  But understand that if I had 20 acres (as I used to have) I wouldn't want bikers riding on it either since any accident could bring a hefty lawsuit.  Motorcycles aen't skateboards, they are motor vehicles with the ability to do a lot of bodily harm to the rider and to anyone who gets in the way.

This sense of entitlement people seem to have is a bit scary with the idea that it's ok to do what you want when you want and where you want.  If you want to organize events, go about it in the right way.  You can't just commandeer property ...it's against the law.

gsxr750, I hope you really don't believe the police sit around drinking beer and then go out and ride their motors for training. If someone told you that, they are a flat out liar. Also, the traffic division has been doing slow, precision training at the airpark for years. They don't train anywhere near where it would interfere with airplane traffic. Again, someone it making crap up.

Let be give you a scenario. Everyone gathers at the airpark for "bike night" and some do stunts on the runway. The City of Bakersfield is aware it and does nothing. A numb skull doing a stunt falls and breaks his neck, killing him. The family hires an attorney and they sue the city (deep pockets) because the runway had cracks that the city wouldn't fix, which were a danger to motorcycles, but not airplane tires. The city should also have installed lights so the bikers could safely see on the dark runway. Get my point?

And FYI, the police HAVE conducted focused enforcement around Chuey's Wednesday bike night. So to say otherwise is false.

How about the city allow the street racers in import cars to use the airpark on Mondays, the sport bikers on Tuesdays, muscle cars on Wednesdays, go-carts on Thursdays, and the pilots Friday thru Sunday. Then EVERYONE will be happy!

Let me start wit the first question asked about the BPD telling us they would rather have it on the streets, yes we were there last night and were directly involved with he officers that told us this. Second the news story is our point of view, will give you that, but the 4 officers on scene had a chance to make their point of view, and even called in their commanding officer, but as soon as camera crews got there, they all road out and parked at the end of the runway. So if they wanted to say something in a public forum to discuss this issue and give their side, then they should have stepped up.

Next is did we have permission to be there, and the answer is yes we had permission to be there. Not only was this permission given to us by the shop owner, but every pilot out there with a hanger came up and let us know we had their permission to be out there as well.

My next question is does the BPD pick up air traffic in their helmets? Because someone also said that we would not know if a place was going to make an emergency landing. Well with BPD having their own cones set up out there and practicing their riding skills, while intoxicated, they would have no way of knowing if a plane was coming in.

Also was asked if drinking was involved, the answer is a positive know. As a whole we do not allowing riders to drink and ride. There are the occasional ones who do come in and have a beer, and they are then asked by the group to not ride with us, and not to return to bike night if they are going to be drinking and getting on their bike. If you think this is just said to sound good, then I suggest instead of sitting at a computer talking about what you assume, that you get out to bike night and see for yourself, we also welcome and invite the public.

We know everyone has their own opinions, and that they are entitled to that, but all we ask is that before passing judgment on what we do, and what our intentions are, that you come out for yourself and meet the groups, and see what going on. We are not afraid to discuss any options with the public, or BPD for that matter.

And to clear things up you are right, I have not seen Harley guys doing stunts at chuys, but I can verify from my own eyes the large consumption of alcohol by riders, and then them getting on heir bikes and leaving. We have not had a rider kidded while stunting at bike night, and the controlled environment we are looking for would enable the stunters to not have to practice in the streets. I do recall howeverer the death of a rider at Chuys who rode into a building. Yet I don't look down on Harley riders for the bad I have seen from them, because I have got to know the groups and found 99 really good people for each bad one you see. Maybe if the public would open their eyes to this, they would see the 99 other good street bike riders, instead of that lone bad rider.

sincalryder, it's not about riding while drinking, all the good you might do, ect. It's about the liability of the city, and the taxpayers, allowing the use of the airpark for motorcyclists. It's really not that complicated. Ask the attorney your group says it has.

OldBlue,

I am sending out to you a personal invitation to come out to bike night and meet and get to know the riders and see what bike night is about. You are willing to sit here and call people liars for what they have seen with their own eyes, and I am willing to let you come out and see both sides, since by all post you have done, I believe you have a background in law enforcement.

This is the thing not realized, the riders are not a bunch of young punks. Many of us our very well respected professionals in major industries. There are several times I have been at functions where LEO's have been discussing with me their own opinions on street bikes, not realizing I myself was a rider. Everything that was discussed in that story was the actual facts as they were coming out right then and there. If the officers wanted to dispute it, they were more than welcome.

And we saw where their cones were set up at the end of the runway, and also spoke Witt he pilots who said they have to make sure to go around those areas as not to hit an officer. They then stated that if we were not allowed out there due to being in an aircraft's way, that the officers should not either. We are not talking about a crazy bunch of bikes un-controlled going up and down the runway. We have rules including never 2 bikes at the same time, and a "flag" person is there to clear one person at a time to go.

Last is the insurance liability. We are aware of this and have the solution. We have a full binding legal waiver that any rider is willing to sign to perform on any property. This is not a generic one, but one that was written up by legal council in another city and has since been adopted and accepted in many other city's across the country.

The bottom line is that the close minded people such as yourself will always find a reason that it is not in the greater interest of the people for any group to do what they love if you do not understand it.

"Next is did we have permission to be there, and the answer is yes we had permission to be there. Not only was this permission given to us by the shop owner, but every pilot out there with a hanger came up and let us know we had their permission to be out there as well."

They don't own the property and do not have the authority to give you permission to use city property. 

For my part, I'm not judging, I'm asking.

"We have not had a rider kidded "

You might want to proof before posting.

What really bothers me is the sense of entitlement.  The attitude that you had the right to be where you were.

sincalryder, it appears your mind is made up. Are you going to go to the city officials and discuss this, or are you going to sit here and bitch?

When not only one but three waitresses claim that they have served the officers alcohol at three different point of the evening then there is a problem. I think you made a great suggestion on the Mon-Thurs. activity. Not only would it allow people to have a SAFE place to  congregate and meet new people that enjoy the same thing. They will also generate revenue for a new dining establishment in town. And to say that the Harley guys are safer than an other group of riders heres where I say you wrong. Out of all the times I have been to Weds. Bike nights I have seen at least 10 minimal of ten doing the burnouts and nearly whiping out several other bikes even young children. We prohibit young children anywhere near the stunters "WHEN STUNNTING" . So to the comments about being a liar point fingers critisize etc but when three different people say the same thing I tend to see some sort of belief. Good day Sir and may you have a safe ride.

GSXR750

probably sit hear an bitch as long as your life consist of listening to it ;-)   And yes we are going to the city with it, but we aren't making a bunch of spray painted signs and running up the the steps of city hall with bats. Regardless of the image given we are an organized group, and are trying to do things in the up and up in the legal arena. Therefor we want to make sure we are approaching the right people and not just sitting in front of city hall waiting for permission to ride.

Look forward to seeing you at bike night and having a soda?

A few years ago, a group of sport bikers were riding out in the southwest (Old River & Panama area) before all the development went up. Just an empty road with no traffic.

Well, a rider died out there after wrecking with another biker doing wheelies.

If a biker had died or been injured on city or private property some would have said, BPD should have stopped it. Ride the bikes on the street and obey the frigging traffic laws and BPD couldn't care less. But what happens is that they get out there driving in excess, doing wheelies and stoppies, get cited and then b***h because you were caught.

Ride responsibly.

If you go to the city and get permission then I say more power to you and have fun.  Once again, your original mistake was not getting the official permission to begin with. 

Trust me though,  I doubt you'll get that permission due to liabilities (waivers notwithstanding) and one thing not mentioned...noise.  How long do you think it would be, in the off chance you're allowed to continue, before someone complains about the noise?  Sprockets got shut down and they were miles from residences.

Sprockets was cool. Dang am I that old.... Got to love Bakersfield.

Sincalrydr,

Your argument is falling apart, so you are running off into irrelevancies.

If the cops were drinking, report them.

If you have a waiver, get it signed.

If some other bikers are out of control, that's not you.

If you're all nice responsible people, act as though you are

sincalryder, a group of us had a get together at the establishment a few weeks ago. Even though the beer was cold, my wife and I didn't like the food. So I see no reason to come down there and have a coke with you. Go ahead and start without me.

Besides, American Idol is on on Tuesday nights....

Thank you curtis, you took the words right out of my mouth. i knew if i waited you would save me from all that typing.

We really are not looking to break laws we just want a safe spot to gather and practice our sport.

Gsxr..if you see motopoet posting here ask him about the time at Sprockets when he hit a tire right in front of the grandstand and went down.  Heee...sometimes standing ovations aren't all that great.

Heres food for thought lets all watch American Idol at Old blues? Anyone Anyone?

JD,

First off thank you for actually asking us for answers and not just pointing fingers.

#1 we were under the impression that between what we were told and the fact the police had actually had officers watching us stunt out there, that all permissions were under control. And evidentally we were wrong, and are trying to find out how to go about things the right way. But the officers approach to this whole thing with in their own words " Targeting  Motorcyclist" is not right, when what we are in reality trying to do is give the new riders who want to perform, a safe option away from public danger. For the riders that like to ride fast, we have been able to get them on teh track in a conrtolled evironment. Now with stunting becoming a maintstream sport, with even its own place being looked at in the X-Games, its only natural people are going to want to do it. So we are taking initiative to try and promote a safe place for it to be done.

#2 The liability waiver is going to be provided now as we try to do through the right routes witht he city to enable a spot for our stunting to be praticed. The are already cities that have built "stunt parks" strictly for streetbike stunting, which has been extremely successful.

#3 Is that the officers on scene told us that the airpark is for aircraft related services only, and that no vehicle under any circumstances is to be on the field unless they are there for an aircraft related issue. And yes before I get asked, I was there, and this is not just hear say.

Once again we are resonable people and are jsut wanting to come up witha  solution to this, not asking for special treatment, just assistance in going about it right.

One thing that hasn't been addressed yet is the fact that in any organized motorized event there is ALWAYS an ambulance in attendance.   IF you get permission to continue, I'm sure that will be a requirement and your organization will have to foot that bill as well.

gsxr750, that is okay, but if you vote for that Jason Castro, you have to leave...

Nancy, I'll bet you all the rice in China that the city WILL NOT allow anyone to use the airpark for motor sports. They are just hoping.

OB..no way I'm taking that bet..lol.    In harsh reality, they don't have a snowballs chance in Baks in July.

I have no idea who that is I dont watch AM. Idol. But thanks for the offer. Ill stick to washing my hair.  

I actually ate dinner at the Rocket Shop Cafe last night and had no idea there was going to be a "BikeNight". Or else I would have rode my bike. The only part of "Bike Night" I questioned was the liability aspect. Other than that, I had my wife and kids there and the bikers were all very repsectful. I did not see them really doing anything that dangerous. Further the whole time I was there I never witnessed one rider on the runway. All of the bikes we parked or riding in the area where the planes park when they fly in to eat at the Rocket Shop. I happen to know several of the pilots with planes out there as well as John Harmon. I have to think if they felt there was a safety issue for planes they would have halted this practice well before it began.

As to the cones on the runway, I wondered why those were there. I thought maybe they were repairing a piece of the runway. I also thought that maybe they were gearing up for some sort of construction project because there were so many cones out there.

OldBlue, you have a God given right to an opinion about the Rocket Shop Cafe. Still, I am here to tell you that you are wrong. The food is good there. The Harmons have done an excellent job bringing that place along. It will continue to improve. Anybody that hasn't been there yet, I urge you to give them a try. Homemade chips, sweet potato fries, great burgers... it really is a classic All-American type of restaurant.

Here is something else to try for everyone that just sits here and pontificates from their keyboard all day. Try losing the "Holier than thou" attitude that has always been so prolific on these blogs. Geez Louise some of you guys are so.... I can't even think of a word that describes it.

My final word on this whole issue, and I think if you really think about it my final point will solve a lot of problems we are facing in this country. The solution is.... PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. There is a terrible lack of personal responsibility in this country today. Everyone has an excuse for everything. I can tell you this, short of an airplane falling out of the sky and killing you, each of us bears at least some amount of responsibility for everything good or bad that happens to us. Once we all recognize this point and start to living life as such, things will get better. Apply that theory to any situation and I think you will begin to see my point.

Bdub600rr wrote:

This whole ordeal makes no sence to me. We try to keep the stunts off the city streets and this is what happens. Where are stunters supposed to practice in a safe (and legal) enviorment? Stunting is not a crime. If you can consider skateboarding, Motocross, BMX, snowboarding, exc. a sport and legal then why isn't motorcycle sunting? Their are compititions all around the world for MCstunting, so why is it illegal in bakersfield? Im not saying people doing wheelies on streets is ok, i just want a safe place to practice that wont conflict with the safety of others.

motocross is not practiced on city streets where innocent people can get hurt because some idiot loses control of his bike. furthermore motocross, snow boarding, bmx.....are used in the manner in which they were designed, sport bikes were designed to go fast on a closed course competition track. not to see how fast it can go in a straight line to the next stop light. or how long you can keep the front wheel in the air while trying to stand on the seat in a retarded flamingo position. race ready motorcycles are designed for racing not stunts. thats why there are legal places for racing, and not for "stunting". there is not enough demand for it and its not designed to operate in that manner. kinda like taking an m-16 to a paintball match....someones gonna get hurt 

Goblue41, so you mean to tell me dirt bikes were intended to jump 50 feet in the air? snow boards were made to grind rails? bicycles were made to ride in skateparks? or have they all been adapted to fit different needs? Whether you belive me or not street bike stunting IS a sport and is Very popular around the world. No i would not take a race ready bike and stunt it, thats why there are modifications to be made. its the same as taking a car and modifing it for the track. I do not encurage racing or stunting on the street and if you would read what i said you would see that we are trying to keep it off the street and away from where people could be hurt. also, there are legal areas for stunting in other counties. If we had one here there would be a lot less people on the streets doing tricks.

GoBlue,

We have not argued your point one bit, and yet you keep passing over ours. Yes stunting a high performance bike On the street is dangerous and illegal, and should not be done. Which is why we are looking for a controlled placed to practice stunt riding. And no most the bikes that are set up for stunt are not made for speed. These bikes have big name manufactures that make the parts for the bikes such as larger sprockets, crash cages, hand breaks, etc..  

All the big bike names have stepped up and actually sponsor stunt riders now. Please do me a favor and check out this site  http://xdlshow.com/    and inform yourself. This is where our biggest problem comes from. Due to the sport being so new and in its beginning, the general public is not aware of what is actually involved. Stunters now are making the same $ as other sports figures, and even have in their contracts item such as no street riding.

The kids coming up and seeing this new sport are wanting involved. Do me a favor each and every one of you and just do a little research about professional stunting and where it is going and what involved before bashing us. As said many times before we are arguing with each other over the same thing, both groups want the riders off the road not putting themselves or the public in harms way.

If companies such as Kawasaki, Suzuki, Redbull and Monster Energy drinks are dumping so much money into the sport, there must be something there.

guys...i am trully sorry to hear about this.. given an opportunity to get offthe streets and showcase your talents, only to be hassled and told no

as an avid off roader....i feel your pain, and call on local leaders to quit relegating city space to classic sports such as baseball, basketball and football, yet leaving out newer up and coming sports like motorcycle freestyle and atv/offroading...

for crying out loud, you built a skate park for the skaters...where is our areas to participate in our sports???

Learnem..Thanks for that note and support. 

OldBlue56 and Bonuschris.... I ate at the Rocket Cafe last night too.  No comlaints from me.

Sincalryder....Thank you for trying to share information instead of just bashing.  PS...I am proud of you.

Bdub,

bikes come from the show room ready to race not to stunt. yes mx bikes are made to jump 50ft in the air thats why they make the suspension the way they do. im not arguing that you need a place, look at what happened to most of us dirt bike riders in the past years. the point is someone doesnt want you there. just like the dont want mxers which is why a few so cal towns have banned it to the point that we cant ride on private land. im making the point that you dont have a place because you dont have the numbers to support it right now. just because I think stunting is stupid doesnt mean you shouldnt do it. im telling you why its frowned upon at this time

Lets just say your son or daughter wanted to stunt ride would you support them if they were bringing home six figures or more each year from sponsers and endorsers that want your son or daughter to ride for them. Now this becomes a double standard. Because they are making loads of money and your seeing it from your child/ children as they support your family by STUNTING. Regardless if these people stunting in town are making major figures right now if they had a place to practice and a place that was designated to practice these athletic tricks they could be the NEXT BIG THING.... Negative reactions create negative action. Positive action brings in positive actions. BE POSITIVE.

 As young adults that we always had people telling us NO YOU CANT DO THIS OR THAT. Think about the one thing that you as a person in your life have been denied something you loved and still have that closed door lingering in your life wishing you would have and now your too old to follow up with it...  Street Rodders all have the same story they build the car that they couldnt afford when they were young and they do it now that they are older. We as younger generations enjoy stunting motorcycles while were young when we're in our fifties etc we'll be the ones making the noise. Will we prevent our younger citizens from fulfiilling  their dreams? NO... My son and my daughter want to be this and be that well, as a parent I will support the choices they make. If you dont like what we do then leave us alone turn the other cheek we will continue doing the stunting on the streets.  If your a dirt rider and you are looking for suport in your events that you may be doing count us out.  Look at Evel Kenevel he was the first stunter and you were a fan as a kid...   

GSXR750 

gsxr750, I thought this whole issue was about stunt riders not being allowed to do it inside the city owned airpark. I didn't know they were out to crush the American dream of our youth.

Are you an attorney? You sure sound like one.

I think you're missing the point here.  The discussion was about stunters performing illegally on land where they had no permission to be.  No one is denying your group enjoys doing what it does, or that it's a family event just as the other sports you mentioned. 

All the rhetoric in the world isn't going to change that.  All the things you've been saying have been said by MX'ers and skaters.  Do what they did.  FIND A PLACE.  Lobby for it. But please, do not come here and whine that you're being denied the right to practive your sport.  I find i hard to believe that if you have an attorney in your midst that he or she did not know what you were doing was illegal and that renters of space at airports do not have the authority to grant you permission to ride there without the owners knowledge and consent.

You're not facing any larger a battle than off roaders have been facing for decades.

OB..again,  we're on the same wave length here.

 I choose not to comment on the issue of my occupational status. The issue is about the city owned airpark and stunt riders having aplace to practice their stunts for competition purposes only. Tuesday night just happens to be the day that the streetbike riders meet up at Harmons Rocket Cafe. BPD was out in force looking for problems and they profiled the group of riders I may or may not represent.

GSXR750

Yeah GSXR, quit complaining on it. You making the people that are tired of reading your bulletins waste their time. They don't have enough self control to go " I don't want to hear these guys whine about not having a place to ride, so I will just not read that blog anymore".  If my mind is made up on an issue, then I am no longer going to waste my time reading it. Unless I have nothing else to do but add negative statements to people that are pushing the city towards a positive movement for the future.

I live by a park and you know what that's city property and those kids are going to get injured playing football, time to file a complaint!  

Figured if everyone else is reaching then I will too right? >=)

My next question is if its an issue of being on city property, then why have we been told that we will be cited if they see us doing it in a parking lot, even with the owners permission?

Oh yeah its because of liability I forgot, I'm just a uneducated sport bike rider. But oh wait, what was just popped up on my desk. California Civil Code Section 846. Ohhhhhhhhhh if you have private property that is used for recreation and someone is injured on it, the owner is protected under this code from any type of law suit. Hey look at me I sound like I went to school or something =)

Now whos the Attorney? Let me pull out my California book of Civil Codes... Greetings Councilor.

GSXR750

Look up "attractive nuisance."

edited..I'm no lawyer but even I know there are extenuating circumstances to any code or ordinance.  I suggest you let the atty in your group do the lawyering.

Please keep the ignorant banter off this blog please thank you... It was simply placed here for the recognition of the issue that took place. Not for your childish banter. If you feel that we're being a nuisance then you need  to step aside and find another blog to badger. Thank you for your opinion but it wasnt asked. Good day Ms, Mrs, Mr etc.

GSXR750

I'm not sure who you're talking to Gs but when a blog is posted it will draw comments.  If you, or others, don't want comments then it's not a good idea to put your opinions out in a PUBLIC forum.  I don't see childish banter here, I see people attempting to explain laws and situations.   As you can see from the "ground rules" above the comment box, the rules are being followed here.

If you want to editorialize I suggest you write a letter to the editor where you can state your opinion and no one can respond.