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Hardliner4freedom - > Starship Sigma +5 -> Judge Pickering's War On The Constitution
Judge Pickering's War On The Constitution

In another of my arcane, abstruse dissertations on Constitutional law and theory, I will show that the Bush judicial nominees that Senate Democrats filibustered really are the bizarre, insane fringies that needed to be stopped.
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Let's look at this proposal by Judge Charles W. Pickering, whose ill-fated nomination was withdrawn in 2004:
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http://www.washtimes.com/co...
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He proposed this Amendment:
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"The Constitution and the amendments thereto duly adopted in the future may be changed, modified, amended or added to only by amendment duly adopted as outlined in Article V of the Constitution. Neither the Supreme Court nor the inferior courts will create law, change, modify, amend, or add to the Constitution, but will interpret the Constitution and amendments in accordance with the common understanding of the relevant provision at the time it was adopted. This amendment does not affect the weight to be given prior decisions under the Doctrine of stare decisis."
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Sounds good...  Or does it?
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Not only is it dangerous because it essentially tells judges how to think, but it all but prohibits judges from drawing simple logical deductions from the text of the Constitution.  But first things first.
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The "understanding of the relevant provision at the time it was adopted" would leave many of the rights we take for granted unprotected.  When the First Amendment was adopted, there would be no protection whatsoever for broadcast media, cable media, satellite media, or the Internet, since none of these existed at the time.  The Founders couldn't possibly have had these in mind, so the First Amendment would not protect them.
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Next, the Founders didn't envision today's plethora of state and federal agencies.  Since the First Amendment only mentions Congress, all of these other state agencies would enjoy unlimited regulatory power, since the Founders were only thinking of restraining Congress back in 1791.
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Pickering writes, "What brought on this unfortunate fight? The transfer of all the hot button social issues: Partial-birth abortion, abortion for teenagers without parental consent or even parental notification, same-sex "marriage," references to God in the Pledge of Allegiance, at public buildings, ceremonies and institutions, display of the Ten Commandments in public places, rewriting history to delete all references to a religious motivation in the settling and building of America, and hard-core and child pornography -- are being settled in the courts of our land rather than in legislative bodies. "
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What Pickering -- and his proposed amendment -- are basically saying is that judges not be permitted to draw even simple logical deductions from the Constitution, since doing so would amount to "creating law."
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Let's explore where this leads.
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The First Amendment forbids Congress from prohibiting the free exercise of religion.  Now, let's say that Congress, or your state, passes a law requiring parents to enroll their children in government-run schools.
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You might say "Wait just a rock pickin' minute!  I'm a devout Christian, and I have the right to educate my children in schools of my own religion!"

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Sorry, no can do.  For a judge to conclude that "free exercise of religion" means "the right to enroll your kids in the school of your choice" would amount to that judge "creating law" -- since the latter conclusion doesn't physically appear in the Constitution.

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The same applies to any other case in which a judge would look at a broadly written Constitutional right and derive from it a more specific right.  Under Pickering's theory, all that would remain of your First Amendment religious freedoms is the right to kneel before the God of your choice and pray.
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But wait; there's even more.
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This further proves Bush to be a bald-faced liar when he claims to seek judges who will "strictly interpret the Constitution."  The Pickering Amendment would require almost the opposite: it would require judges to double as historians and reach outside the Constitution and into the oftentimes debatable issues of American history to divine the proper application of a passage of the Constitution.
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Strict constructionism, this isn't.  It's very much the opposite of Bush's stated claim for what he wants in a federal judge.
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Senate Democrats were entirely justified in blocking the nominations of nuts like Pickering.  Unlike what the negligent media have neglected to tell you, Senate Democrats were blocking judicial nominees who would essentially reduce the Constitution to zero.
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While you're kneeling to the God of your choice, you'd be wise to include a heartfelt prayer of thanks to Senate Democrats for shielding your most basic Constitutional protections from total destruction by the judicial nominees that Bush has gone out of his way to nominate.
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posted by Hardliner4freedom on Monday, November 13, 2006 at 10:54 AM
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posted by CurtDalton on Nov 13, 2006 at 09:58 AM

YEAH,

Just like the wonderful Democrats "protect" my beloved Second Amendment?


When those who are screaming the loudest to protect the First Amendment decide to cry just as loudly for the Second and Fourth Amendment I'll jump on board your bandwagon.  Until then, I'll stay a Constitutional Conservative.  In my point of view,  there is a very concerted effort to promote and defend one of the provisions of the Bill of Rights while ignoring or soundly bashing others.

This my friend, exposes the hypocrisy of those who are screaming about the loss of Constitutional rights.  They champion one because they feel their lifestyle is threatened; yet see no harm in attacking the Second Amendment because they simply do not care about MY right to own a firearm.  

As far as the Constitution is concerned, the Amendments enumerated in the Bill of Rights are not negotiable.  One right is just as important as another, yet the Democrats see no fault with bartering MY right away while closing the ranks to defend THEIR right.

 

If you want me to jump on YOUR bandwagon, you have to jump on mine.  Until then, I will view you as a selfish hypocrite interested only in your self-interests at the expense of mine.   

 

The media is a classic example:  They will fight tooth and nail for the right to print or broadcast something -  ANYTHING!  Yet they will gleefully attack gun owners every single chance they get.  In fact, they would be dancing in the streets in glee if I were forced to turn in my firearms immediately!

 

Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy?  

 

No disrespect intended my friend, (Honest!) I simply want you to see a different point of view shared by a lot of conservatives.  While I honestly do not have a problem with the point of view you put forth, your dissertation left out a lot and I believe your emphasis should be on the erosion of ALL of our rights. 

 

The administration currently in office is eroding certain rights in the name of protecting the entire nation and while some of their arguments have merit, the end does not justify the means.  The same can be said of the Democrats effort to control senseless violence in our cities from organized street gangs by eviscerating the Second Amendment.   Both attacks on the Constitution are despicable and should be recognized for what they are – an attack on the rights of everyone.

 

 

posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:03 AM

Then you need to read my posts elsewhere.

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Find the Californian blog about Kern County's CCW permits and get an idea where I stand on the Second Amendment.
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(Here it is:
http://people.bakersfield.c... )
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Where were you on that topic?  We needed you!  :-)
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You're a good defender of our liberties, Curt.  You just need to stop assuming the worst about anyone who speaks well of Democrats from time to time.

posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:14 AM
I don't recall one single democrat running on gun control. In fact, there were many democrats that ran on a pro 2nd ammendment platform. Just look at Howard Dean's take on gun control. http://www.ontheissues.org/...

The times are changing Curt, the times are changing.
posted by CurtDalton on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Hardliner - 

I've been away in Northern California (Napa, Sonoma, Sacramento, Ione) visiting relatives.  NO INTENET ANYWHERE - A very nice break fro it all.

My criticism of the Democrats is they make a good show of talking about equal rights but in practice they are just as bad or worse than their mortal enemy - Republicans in stealing rights from the people one right at a time.

By the way, I am very familiar with your posts and by and large I do not disagree with the majority of what you write - It's the others that make me want to yank out what little hair I have left!  

posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:20 AM

The nice thing about Constitutionally conscientious judges is they will protect our rights against whoever might try to take them away -- Republican or Democrat.
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Remember that San Francisco gun ban that was passed by popular vote?  It was overturned by a state judge.

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Conscientious judges protect our freedoms from attack from all sides.
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BTW, welcome back.  You keep the Dems honest, and I'll keep the Repubs honest.

posted by mattloch on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:38 AM
Surely you can see that of all the Amendments, the Second has had the least amount of legislative history in "taking away" this right. If all of the other Amendments can have realistic limits placed on them ("fire" in a theater, hot pursuit, etc.), why is it that the Second should never, ever be limited, even when it comes to common sense? An "attack" on the Second Amendment harms only gun owners. An "attack" on the First or Fourth Amendment harms everyone, since every speaks, or can be searched by police. Of all the Amendments, perhaps only the Third is more arcane. Besides, if any Amendment specifically mentions regulations, it's the Second ("a well regulated militia"). And that's leaving aside the argument that can be made that the National Guard is the militia of today, and that anyone not in the Guard has no Constitutional "right" to bear arms.
posted by robbwillis on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:44 AM
I don't think an amendment witten in nearly indecipherable language has a chance of being passed by the required number of states.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Actually, Pete, I'll never forget the 3rd Congressional District race in Washington State in 1994 -- when freedom-hater Linda Smith was elected to the House of Representatives along with many other freedom-haters nationwide.
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The Democratic candidate was the pro-Second Amendment incumbent Jolene Unsoeld.  But there was a spoiler in the race, Caitlin Davis Carlson, whose explicitly anti-gun platform siphoned off 3.4% of the hard-left vote from Unsoeld.
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Mattloch, actually, an attack on the Second Amendment harms everyone.  It harms people who currently don't own firearms who, for whatever personal reason, may decide to own one in the future.  You could similarly say that the First Amendment's "free exercise" clause only protects people who have a religion.  Or you could say that the "right to peaceably assemble" only protects people who actually choose to assemble.
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That misses the point.  The right to keep and bear arms reflects a specific option that all Americans have.  It doesn't matter that only some choose to exercise it, any more than it matters that only some Americans choose a religious faith.
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Freedom is about options, not just things you've already done.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 10:52 AM
True, Robb, but it illustrates the bizarre, out-of-this-world thinking that far-right legal theory brings to the table -- and if appointed and confirmed -- brings to the bench.
posted by mattloch on Nov 13, 2006 at 11:36 AM
Hardliner, can you give me an example of another Amendment that specifically mentions "regulations" within it?
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 11:39 AM
There isn't one.  Your point?  I don't see anyone here arguing that there should be no regulations at all.
posted by mattloch on Nov 13, 2006 at 12:04 PM
The other blog you've linked to has people arguing against the .50 cal ban. Curt also believes that Democrats are trying to "eviscerate" the Second Amendment, presumably through regulations.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 13, 2006 at 01:11 PM
How about the 21st amendment. It specifically deals with regulation and transportation of alcohol.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 01:15 PM

Pete, I was thinking in terms of the Bill of Rights.  However, you're right about the 21st Amendment.
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Mattloch, I can't speak for Curt, but if I understand his position correctly, he believes that Democrats want to ban personal ownership of all firearms.  That's not necessarily true, but that's a different debate that I'll have to have with him.  
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I agree with the gun enthusiasts on the .50 cal ban, though.  It "solves" something that really is not a problem, and affects the legitimate gun enthusiast much more than the criminal.
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Curt -- please chime in if I misstated your assertion.

posted by mattloch on Nov 13, 2006 at 01:32 PM
That's more an application of the Tenth Amendment than anything else. But yes Pete, that does specifically mention "regulation". I guess I stand corrected.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 13, 2006 at 01:46 PM
The only gun control measures that the national democrats favor is the renewal of the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole (which the pro-gun crowd denies even exists). Personally, I don't see a reason people need those types of weapons, unless they're planning an assault of some sort. I do know that there are a few gun enthusiasts around here that like to shoot them for fun or recreation.
The gun show loophole needs further discussion. When one side denies its existence and the other side is very concerned about, we need to first decide whether it exists or not. Only then can we proceed in discussing its merits.
IMHO, the gun show loophole refers to people that go to a gun show and offer to sell their private guns to another attendee, which doesn't require a vendor license or a transfer of permits. Similar to a widow selling her dead husband's collection to his best friend, but in this case the sale offer is made at a gun show. Like I said, this needs further discussion so we can all agree what the issue is.

I urge all conservative and liberal pro-gun people be patient and see what (if anything) the new congress decides to do before jumping to the conclusion that the democrats want to take away all of your guns.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 13, 2006 at 07:47 PM
It looks like I may need to write a blog on the Second Amendment.
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I haven't before, in part, because so many Kern gun rights bloggers are very capable of defending the Second Amendment without my help, and in part because I consider the immediate danger to the rest of the Constitution to be at least as grave -- yet egregiously underreported.
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To make a long story short, the Second Amendment was seen as an individual right, however it was never seen as a right to form private armies or unauthorized militias.
posted by Charlie on Nov 14, 2006 at 07:23 AM
In the language of the time, a well regulated militia meant a well tranined militia and the militia was the people. There was no national guard at the time or a standing army.  Constitutional scholars of all political persuasions agree on this point.  Any other interpertation is just  LW drivel. 
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Nov 14, 2006 at 07:28 AM
Oh, my God, you actually made a point.  This is a first for you.
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Congratulations.
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BTW, you are correct.
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